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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: NUKE on April 14, 2004, 10:46:29 PM
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When are we going to get to hear some more music from you? I really liked the song you posted.
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He posted a song? Cool, anyone have the link?
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Love, exciting and new
Come aboard, we're expecting you
Love, life's sweetest reward
Let it flow, it floats back to you
Love Boat soon will be making another run
The Love Boat promises something for everyone
Set a course for adventure
Your mind on a new romance
And love won't hurt anymore
It's an open smile on a friendly shore
It's love
Welcome aboard
It's love!
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Screw the music, I want another psychadellic ah map pic, or perhaps a pimped out ME262...only in a real skin this time. :)
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Breathe it in and breathe it out
And pass it on, it's almost out
We're so creative, so much more
We're high above but on the floor
It's not a habit, it's cool, I feel alive
If you don't have it you're on the other side
The deeper you stick it in your vein
The deeper the thoughts, there's no more pain
I'm in heaven, I'm a god
I'm everywhere, I feel so hot
It's not a habit, it's cool, I feel alive
If you don't have it you're on the other side
I'm not an addict (maybe that's a lie)
It's over now, I'm cold, alone
I'm just a person on my own
Nothing means a thing to me
(Nothing means a thing to me)
It's not a habit, it's cool, I feel alive
If you don't have it you're on the other side
I'm not an addict (maybe that's a lie)
Free me, leave me
Watch me as I'm going down
Free me, see me
Look at me, I'm falling and I'm falling.
It is not a habit, it is cool I feel alive I feel...
It is not a habit, it is cool I feel alive
It's not a habit, it's cool, I feel alive
If you don't have it you're on the other side
I'm not an addict (maybe that's a lie)
I'm not an addict...
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Haha! :D
The stuff I was writing at the time couldn't be further from that.
Waaaay less enjoyable to listen to, also...
Nuke, the problem is that while I still have my HD with the songs on it, I lost all the other pieces which would enable me to mix that stuff.
So at the moment it sounds like 1000101011000101.
Estes - the song I posted was beatdownwastedstrungoutspent (http://modena.intergate.ca/personal/cwharton/songs/beatdownwastedstrungoutspent.mp3)
I do have a few rough mixes from other songs... and by rough I mean... suckage. Thing is, even if I had all my equipment back, I probably wouldn't bother going back and remixing that stuff.
k...
Here's another one, again written and "inspired" by that period of time when I was jammin' needles into my ex's neck. Good times.
unnamed (http://modena.intergate.ca/personal/cwharton/songs/track3.mp3)
It's a great example of what happens when you give birth to a song like this. When you're goofing around and come up with something, sometimes you really latch onto a particular thing about it, initially, and it's like a spark happens... and you begin to think that it's like, the greatest shrecking thing ever written EVAR. You obsess.
At least when yer messed up, that is.
And yeah, in this case, it was like "this thing is freaking EPIC, man!"
So the tendancy was to put everything into it. Even though the song itself, at its core, was extremely flat and dead. There's no way I could objectively know that at the time.
I no longer listen to these things in any way other than as if I were revisiting an old journal that I've written in. Embarrasing. Merely a record of where I was at, at that time... is all.
My GF OD'd at least a 1/2 dozen times on my watch. I was able to revive her 5 of those times without calling 911. This song is about the fictional time I wasn't there.
*An aside... My best pal in rehab was a guy named Paul. He too had one of these Sid and Nancy type relationships... but which lasted an amazing 9 years. She ended up hooking, and he resorted to knocking over banks. And they were fine with that.
While in jail, his girlfriend hooked up with someone else. He was furious, and, despite maintaining a healthy heroin habit even inside, he quit it. He was going to "show" this chick once he got out... and resolved to live healthy, working out every day (the dude is in so much shape).
Anyways, he gets out 3 years later, and he goes to confront her.
Turns out, she was paralyzed due to her injecting smack into her neck. Something went awry. And she doesn't even want to see him.
Up until that point every single thought and action was about this one moment.
He's despondant now, everything down the toilet. He picks up that night, gets hooked, knocks over a couple of banks. Ends up back in jail not two weeks later for 5 more years.
And this guy... Paul... Is one of the shrecking best people I have ever had the priveledge of knowing.
Shows ya how distorted things get.
Well.... listen to that song in the same light. At the time, thumbs up!, now? Yegads....
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You can tell the world, you never was my girl,
You can burn my clothes when I am gone.
You can tell your friends, just what a fool I've been,
And laugh and joke about me on the phone.
And you can tell my arms, go back into the farm,
You can tell my feet to hit the floor.
You can tell my lips, or tell my fingertips,
They won't be reaching out for you no more.
Don't tell my heart, my achy breaky heart,
I just don't think he'd understand.
'Cause if you tell my heart, my achy breaky heart,
He might blow up and kill this man.
You can tell your ma, I moved to Arkansas,
You can tell your dog to bite my leg.
Or tell your brother Clift, his fist can tear my lip,
He never really liked me anyway.
Tell your Aunt Louise, tell anything you please,
A simple written note is not OK.
You can tell my eyes, but watch out for my mind,
It might be walkin' out on me today.
So don't tell my heart, my achy breaky heart,
I just don't think he'd understand.
'Cause if you tell my heart, my achy breaky heart,
He might blow up and kill this man.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Breathe it in and breathe it out
And pass it on, it's almost out
We're so creative, so much more
We're high above but on the floor
It's not a habit, it's cool, I feel alive
If you don't have it you're on the other side
The deeper you stick it in your vein
The deeper the thoughts, there's no more pain
I'm in heaven, I'm a god
I'm everywhere, I feel so hot
It's not a habit, it's cool, I feel alive
If you don't have it you're on the other side
I'm not an addict (maybe that's a lie)
It's over now, I'm cold, alone
I'm just a person on my own
Nothing means a thing to me
(Nothing means a thing to me)
It's not a habit, it's cool, I feel alive
If you don't have it you're on the other side
I'm not an addict (maybe that's a lie)
Free me, leave me
Watch me as I'm going down
Free me, see me
Look at me, I'm falling and I'm falling.
It is not a habit, it is cool I feel alive I feel...
It is not a habit, it is cool I feel alive
It's not a habit, it's cool, I feel alive
If you don't have it you're on the other side
I'm not an addict (maybe that's a lie)
I'm not an addict...
I loved their cd but I can't remember who they are...any help Funked?
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There's a blast from the past... K's Choice, Drunky. Wonder if I can find that Mp3 around anywhere.
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It's a boring day - I've got nothing to do
Except to get a load of retards and drive 'em to the zoo
Oh oh oh takin' retards to the zoo [x2]
Load 'em on a bus just for laughs
Down a winding road stepping on the gas
Down a winding road just daydreaming
Down a winding road with the retards screaming
Oh oh oh takin' retards to the zoo [x2]
One of them blowing a big spit bubble
Slam on the brakes at the first sign of trouble
Head on collision bodies everywhere
Head on collision retards beware
Oh oh oh takin' retards to the zoo [x2]
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The dead milkmen... more memories, this time of middle school. Great song. Just reading the lyrics again makes me laugh. :D
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Hey Nash, another good song there
I like your vocals....your voice has kind of a cool quirkiness to it.....
If you feel brave, you could email some of your Pro Tools sessions to me and I could mix them and screw with them :)
Seriously I would like to hear more.
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Funked1, you anus hat.
<Invisible Nash font engaged.>
Bettar now?
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http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=86889
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Torque:
a) I had no idea!!!! (you sneaky bastige)
b) I'll cop to a couple of times, but mostly, no.
c) Yes.
d) What was the length of the carpet fibers? I'd look into that first.
e) see b.
f) I didn't know it could be used for that! Noted.
g) LOL! That borders on witchcraft.
g) Not so much... Nah.
h) 3 times, give or take a few.
i) That is at the same time brilliant and creepy. Is it okay if I also incorporate that, but give you credit for the technique?
j) You too!
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Nash,
What do you use to record the drums?
I've been using a drum machine but I have recently switch to Home Studio and while I like the new drum sounds I still find it cumbersome to create the patterns. The fact that I'm no drummer also makes this hard.
Side note: You noticed also that the two Nickleback songs are the some basically also...hehehe. The band I play in also dabbles with them (I really don't care much for Nickleback, not very much depth IMO but our singer really likes them) and I keep pointing out that he keeps writting the same exact single. ;)
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Originally posted by Nash
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And this guy... Paul... Is one of the shrecking best people I have ever had the priveledge of knowing.
Shows ya how distorted things get.
Well.... listen to that song in the same light. At the time, thumbs up!, now? Yegads....
I know a guy with a story a lot like that. He's special, too.
Thanks for the story, and the jams, nice.
culero
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Ya NASH it's a great song!!! I play it alot, forgot to thank you before.
NUTTZ
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Nash, I was hoping you might answer about how you record your drums.
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Originally posted by Drunky
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Nash, I was hoping you might answer about how you record your drums.
Drunky he drums himself with real drums..... I talked to him about a month ago while flying AH.
I agree he has some serious talent..... I would like to hear more from him.
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TY Nuke.
If any one is interested, here (http://www.stonecoldlove.com/music/Drunky-ImFunky.mp3) is a sample of my music.
Granted, this one is a little funky. Most of mine tend to be heavier but I thought this might be more palatable for the masses (as it were).
[Edit] Please keep in mind that I drink alot when I'm coming up with and recording music. Also, my production values are primitive compared to Nash's[/edit]
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Generally... it depends on if you're a hard hitter or not... If you are, I'd recommend using a shure 57 on each drum, with the snare being mic'd both on top (for the slap sound) and the bottom (for the chains). Make sure ya reverse the phase of the bottom mic. I didn't have enough inputs to mic the bottom, though... the Digi001 only gives ya eight.
Then I used (I think it was) an akg d112 for the bass dum, positioned off to the side, but pointing to the spot where the beater hits.
I can't remember what make the cymbal mics were (probably akg), but they were condensors. I had one pointing straight down on the hi-hat about a third of the way in. Another was positioned over the left crash, and the last one was over and aimed at a spot between the ride and right crash. That was the most tricky of the entire set-up.... trying to get a good mix between the crash and ride. But again, only 8 mics...
What's really missing is the room sound. You usually have two mics positioned above and away from the kit to get the room's natural reverb. After everything else was mic'd I didn't have anything left to do this. A good technique which I was planning to do but never got around to is to re-amp the drums by playing the part back through your monitors, and recording them again from far away (was going to use a long hallway).
You can also do the same type of thing to beef up your snare sound, by putting one of the monitors right on your snare facing down, playing the snare part back through it, and recording it from a mic placed under the snare.
That's about all I can think of... but if I left anything out go ahead and ask.
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Nifty song! :aok
This summer I'm gonna take a stab at using midi for drums, but trying to program them to be indistinguishable from the real thing. Since you have control over all the parameters, it should be possible. The hardest I think would be to program in all the little errors and timing nuances to make them sound human.
Maybe just quicker to record em live... but it'll be interesting.
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Originally posted by Nash
Nifty song! :aok
This summer I'm gonna take a stab at using midi for drums, but trying to program them to be indistinguishable from the real thing. Since you have control over all the parameters, it should be possible. The hardest I think would be to program in all the little errors and timing nuances to make them sound human.
Maybe just quicker to record em live... but it'll be interesting.
I have about 12 years experience programming midi drums, I have made some tracks that sound pretty good and realistic but NOTHING sounds as good as a drummer.
I would bet that most people that heard my midi drums would not know they were real or not.....but any good muscian should be able to tell any midi drums from a real drummer.
Maybe when I get done building DiabloTX's FW I will mix some of my old songs for you to hear.
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That would be great to hear Nuke. I'm guessing it'd be a bit painful to do, but... maybe you get better at it the more you do it.
I have an advantage in that I know very well all the little screw-ups that makes drumming sound like what it does. Hell, I could write an essay on them. :)
I dug up another song that I had converted to MP3. I'll post it, but I'm trying to get it down from the 10 megs it's at to something more reasonable. Prolly be the last song I post from that... era.
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Originally posted by Nash
That would be great to hear Nuke. I'm guessing it'd be a bit painful to do, but... maybe you get better at it the more you do it.
I have an advantage in that I know very well all the little screw-ups that makes drumming sound like what it does. Hell, I could write an essay on them. :)
I dug up another song that I had converted to MP3. I'll post it, but I'm trying to get it down from the 10 megs it's at to something more reasonable. Prolly be the last song I post from that... era.
The best tool for programing midi drums is Cakewalk, a cheap drum machine for input and a good drum sound module for output. With cakewalk, I usually "tap" the bass and snare real time, then correct nuance and timing as needed. I then program everything else and add very selective, short delays to make the "kit" sound like it's in a room.
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Cakewalk?
Cool...
If I remember right, they were one of the first sequencers out of the gate with multi-track midi. Computer monitors hadn't even gone from monotone to CGA when I saw it.
Will give that a look - thanks Nuke.
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Originally posted by NUKE
The best tool for programing midi drums is Cakewalk
Which software from Cakewalk?
I'm using Home Studio 2004 right now. Was using a Yamaha MD-8 (8 track minidisc recorder) and an old Boss DR-550 mkII drum machine.
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Home Studio should be good....I have Sonic myself, but only use it for midi so far.. I use the piano roll edit view for drums.... every drum sound will have it's own "paino" key in the display, so it's very easy to edit each voice.
I use to program the actual drum machine way back when. Each 4 or 8 bar section at a time, then string it all togother for a song, which was very tiresome, figuring where each fill or accent should be.
Now I start a song with a click track in cakewalk and record a scratch guitar or bass track, then go back and tap the drums real time for the most part, then edit it all as I wish. Some parts I cut and paste, like maybe percussion and hi hats.
I have a Digi001 like Nash had now. My idea for recording drums next is to record the midi in cakewalk ( because of it's great edit and interface, display) then import that into Protools. I want to record each drum sound onto seperate tracks coming from my r8 drum rack, then eq, and tweek each sound before putiing them togther into a drum sub group.
Damn, I wish I could just drum!
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You're pretty good Nash! Are you making any money off of these songs?
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Originally posted by NUKE
Home Studio should be good....I have Sonic myself, but only use it for midi so far.. I use the piano roll edit view for drums.... every drum sound will have it's own "paino" key in the display, so it's very easy to edit each voice.
Damn, I wish I could just drum!
I used to try to use the Staff view which just brings up a staff and you have to place the notes you want where you want them. Well hell, its just like any other midi instrument.
I figured there was a better way and found the piano roll but I haven't had much time to write lately. Between 15 hours at school, work, family and a band I just haven't been able to record like I used to :(
I also wished I could drum. Well, I can somewhat. But I'm a pretty rudimentary drummer. Any swing beats or fancy bass work and I'm lost.