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Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: GtoRA2 on April 15, 2004, 10:11:37 AM
I heard something on the radio this morning about how 2 of the 6 stations have taken them off? I did not catch the details.


Sorry if this is a repost.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: ra on April 15, 2004, 10:19:52 AM
It would be pretty surprising if it is dead already.  The lefties who sponsored it were committed to keeping it alive at least until the November elections.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: StabbyTheIcePic on April 15, 2004, 11:44:36 AM
At least it is drug free.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: CMC Airboss on April 15, 2004, 01:37:14 PM
Two stations down and four to go.


"STATION OWNER CLAIMS: AIR AMERICA 'BOUNCES CHECK'; LIBERAL RADIO NET TAKEN OFF IN LOS ANGELES, CHICAGO AFTER ONLY TWO WEEKS
Wed Apr 14 2004 16:18:43 ET

After just two weeks on the air, Air America Radio, the fledgling liberal talk-radio network featuring Al Franken and Janeane Garofalo, appears to have encountered serious cash-flow problems.

The CHICAGO TRIBUNE is developing a story, insiders tell DRUDGE, on how the network was pulled off the air this morning in Chicago and Los Angeles, the network's second- and third-largest markets, because, the owner of both stations said, the network bounced a check and owes him more than $1 million! A charge the network strongly denies.

A Chicago source familiar with the situation said a Multicultural representative showed up at WNTD's offices Wednesday morning, kicked out Air America's lone staffer overseeing the network's feed to the station from New York, switched over to a Spanish-language feed, and changed the locks on the doors...

Air America filed a complaint Wednesday in New York state Supreme Court charging Multicultural with breaching their contract and seeking an injunction to force Multicultural to restore the Air America broadcast on both stations."

Drudge Report
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: gofaster on April 15, 2004, 01:52:07 PM
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Originally posted by CMC Airboss
A Chicago source familiar with the situation said a Multicultural representative showed up at WNTD's offices Wednesday morning, kicked out Air America's lone staffer overseeing the network's feed to the station from New York, switched over to a Spanish-language feed, and changed the locks on the doors.


Chalk one up for the hispanic community!
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: lazs2 on April 15, 2004, 02:26:59 PM
maybe they can get a government grant?

lazs
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: Makarov9 on April 15, 2004, 02:30:57 PM
They already have two govt. funded media outlets...do they really need a third?
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: lazs2 on April 15, 2004, 02:34:30 PM
well... if it's for a liberal cause then no amount of other peoples money is too much to spend.

lazs
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: MrLars on April 15, 2004, 05:44:10 PM
Fact is that AAR is back in Chicago and will be in LA soon too.

Another fact is that there was no bounced check. That is your right leaning spin put on the story by the source.

All in all, the RW reaction to this incident is rather amusing to sit back and watch.

Why all the hoopla if you don't even listen, or is it that you just don't want the other side to air their views?

< Yakov Smirnoff voice > Whata country!
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: lazs2 on April 16, 2004, 11:04:21 AM
mrlars... my son lives in aptos..  I think I will have him go over to your house and beat the crap out of you... no real reason.. just thought it would be funny.

lazs
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: AKIron on April 16, 2004, 11:15:39 AM
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Originally posted by StabbyTheIcePic
At least it is drug free.


Too bad it's not dope free.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: Virage on April 16, 2004, 11:21:45 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
well... if it's for a liberal cause then no amount of other peoples money is too much to spend.
lazs


Explain the current deficit.  Without using your son to beat someone up if you can.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: lazs2 on April 16, 2004, 11:26:21 AM
aren't we spending a lot of money on a military operation?  I believe that protecting our interests is the only thing that our government should be spending money on.   I believe that if we could only do that and get rid of all the social/ist entitelments we would be better off.

lazs
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: Monk on April 16, 2004, 11:42:51 AM
As far as I know, they are still flying.  Different name tho.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 16, 2004, 11:57:21 AM
Thier was non bounsed czech in Amereeka, ist jused plane ridekulos.

Franken is gawd.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: Virage on April 16, 2004, 12:21:52 PM
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/bg1710.cfm



(http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/images/29760572.gif)

 (http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/images/chart8.gif)
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: AKWeav on April 16, 2004, 12:37:16 PM
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Too bad it's not dope free.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: MrLars on April 16, 2004, 03:56:53 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
mrlars... my son lives in aptos..  I think I will have him go over to your house and beat the crap out of you... no real reason.. just thought it would be funny.

lazs


Bring it on!
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: AKIron on April 16, 2004, 04:13:52 PM
Hey lazs, I bet my son can beat up your son. ;)


My oldest son and grandson.

(http://www.inettek.com/pics/3-28-04/jg.jpg)

Knew I could work in a pic of one of my gransons. ;)
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: CMC Airboss on April 16, 2004, 05:11:41 PM
Lazs, I've met Mr Lars - I'd suggest your son arrive with an ambulance so he has a ride to the hospital afterwards.

Airboss
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: strk on April 16, 2004, 07:22:04 PM
Both stations are back up - Chicago and LA - 10 more stations by the end of the month.

they stream online, with millions of unique hits each day.  Air America broke Real Audio records for volume of users.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: mietla on April 16, 2004, 07:24:02 PM
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Originally posted by strk
Both stations are back up - Chicago and LA - 10 more stations by the end of the month.



So, they've found ten new listeners? ;)
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: strk on April 16, 2004, 07:25:47 PM
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Originally posted by mietla
So, they've found ten new listeners? ;)


snork!
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: StabbyTheIcePic on April 16, 2004, 08:07:29 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
aren't we spending a lot of money on a military operation?  I believe that protecting our interests is the only thing that our government should be spending money on.   I believe that if we could only do that and get rid of all the social/ist entitelments we would be better off.

lazs


So you would solve all of what you deam a problem with violence or just removing it. You are nothing but a nazi wrapped in an american flag.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: mietla on April 16, 2004, 09:26:08 PM
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Originally posted by StabbyTheIcePic
So you would solve all of what you deam a problem with violence or just removing it. You are nothing but a nazi wrapped in an american flag.


Huh? What violence?

What are you trying to say?

Cutting off the freeloaders from a trough financed by the money extorted from the productive people is Nazi now?
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: strk on April 17, 2004, 08:14:24 AM
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Originally posted by mietla
Huh? What violence?

What are you trying to say?

Cutting off the freeloaders from a trough financed by the money extorted from the productive people is Nazi now?


Are you talking about ending corporate welfare?
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: Ripsnort on April 17, 2004, 08:16:18 AM
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Originally posted by strk
Are you talking about ending corporate welfare?


Have you ever worked for a poor man? I haven't.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: strk on April 17, 2004, 08:45:30 AM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Have you ever worked for a poor man? I haven't.


Well Rip I own my business, so I work for each of my clients, and I have had rich clients as well as poor.  Their money spends the same.  

I am not rich.  I receive zero corporate welfare.  I employ several people.

How again does it work that we create jobs by giving money to big corporations?
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: lazs2 on April 17, 2004, 09:50:46 AM
hmmm... iron..  my son is bigger than that.  A lot bigger.

also.. according to the charts it seems that the increases all came from defense and something called "911 response"  so... seems that they justified increases considering the situation.

As for "corprate welfare"  depends.. need to take it on a case by case but there is plenty of room for cuts.   Is farming susidies corprate welfare for instance?   Tax breaks are not welfare in my opinion.  Taking peoples taxes and giving them to others is.

The democrats take my taxes and give em to the worthless partiers and druggies down the street.    Would 100 times more like em to cut IBM's taxes instead.   Any person who works for a living is probly a stockholder in some "corporations" and benifiets from "corprate wellfare"  I see no benifiet in being fleeced to pay for the worthless people.


lazs
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: MrLars on April 17, 2004, 10:02:14 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
hmmm... iron..  my son is bigger than that.  A lot bigger.




Hey Lazs, maybe you should edit that threat to me you posted before someone decides to take action.

That kind of crap doesn't belong here.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: storch on April 17, 2004, 10:05:42 AM
Iron,  he can't put the kids socks on properly, therefore he will easily kick lazs' son's arse.  if not i'll send my Daughter in she'll both their arses.  I save my son for the heavy work.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: lazs2 on April 17, 2004, 10:10:51 AM
Oh comeon lars... it was a joke.  My son is very large and lives in the same town as you... hippieville... but.. He is as mellow as anyone I know.  He is extremely slow to anger and would never hurt anyone unless he was attacked.   Get a grip... you live in aptos fer chrissakes.... there hasn't even been a face slapped in what?  a decade or so?  

lazs
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: lazs2 on April 17, 2004, 10:24:33 AM
strk... Hmm.. I was a contractor and never worked for anyone who wasn't working themselves.  They may have varied greatly in income but... they all coulda used a tax break.  How can you work for someone who has no income?  

When a person makes nothing...yes ZERO and gets a "tax credit"  then that is wrong.

lazs
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: MrLars on April 17, 2004, 10:42:44 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
Oh comeon lars... it was a joke.  My son is very large and lives in the same town as you... hippieville... but.. He is as mellow as anyone I know.  He is extremely slow to anger and would never hurt anyone unless he was attacked.   Get a grip... you live in aptos fer chrissakes.... there hasn't even been a face slapped in what?  a decade or so?  

lazs


Ok, lacking a retraction from you I'll accept this in place of a smiley at the end of your unveiled threat.

You should be more careful in the future though, you could find yourself in dire straits legaly.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: AKIron on April 17, 2004, 10:50:21 AM
Hehe, my son is pretty easy going too. He's only about 5'11" and 220-230 but it's all muscle. He probably can't put his own socks on right Storch. ;)
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: lazs2 on April 17, 2004, 11:01:18 AM
Yeah... my son went through that weight lifting stage when he played football.  He is 6'2 or so and 250.   I watched him do bench press reps with 300 lbs... ten at a time.

lars... what?  did you just threaten to sue me?  Oh right.... yer from aptos.   sheesh... liberals... what a bunch of babies.   I think that everyone on the board got that it was a joke except you.   Even taking into consideration that you were the one "threatened".... you overreacted... first you said "bring it on" then you did a 180 and started whining...  

maybe it was a poor joke to use on sensitive people...   But...

I can't help but feel that you weren' t really scared or offended just looking for an excuse to act rightously offended in the same way the PC police (oddly enough, liberals too) do.  

lazs
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: storch on April 17, 2004, 11:08:36 AM
sheesh lars, ever heard of humor?  don't go ask your wife or civil partner about it, they won't have a clue either.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: AKIron on April 17, 2004, 11:10:51 AM
Alright, you guys have forced me to do this, my grandkids can beat up your grandkids, here's the rest:

At the hotel from the same trip:
(http://www.inettek.com/pics/3-28-04/eegc.jpg)

5 in Idaho:
(http://www.inettek.com/pics/4-5-4/kids1.jpg)
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: MrLars on April 17, 2004, 11:35:16 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
Yeah... my son went through that weight lifting stage when he played football.  He is 6'2 or so and 250.   I watched him do bench press reps with 300 lbs... ten at a time.

lars... what?  did you just threaten to sue me?  Oh right.... yer from aptos.   sheesh... liberals... what a bunch of babies.   I think that everyone on the board got that it was a joke except you.   Even taking into consideration that you were the one "threatened".... you overreacted... first you said "bring it on" then you did a 180 and started whining...  

maybe it was a poor joke to use on sensitive people...   But...

I can't help but feel that you weren' t really scared or offended just looking for an excuse to act rightously offended in the same way the PC police (oddly enough, liberals too) do.  

lazs


This is the way Reps take personal responsibility?

You were wrong in the content of your post, admit it and move on.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: storch on April 17, 2004, 11:36:05 AM
At this point Iron I concede, our first grandchild is still inutero.  the blessed event to occur in October of this year.

Lovely family BTW.  Is that your Daughter?  I can't (don't know how to) post photos on the BB, not really sure I want to learn how to.

However my cat can kick your dog's arse. :)
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: AKIron on April 17, 2004, 11:48:03 AM
Hehe, my wife Storch, I'll pass along your little lie, women are so gullible. ;)
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Post by: storch on April 17, 2004, 11:49:17 AM
Works like a charm, every time.:aok
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Post by: VOR on April 17, 2004, 11:53:50 AM
Nice looking family AKiron! The red eye effect on your dog kinda creeps me out tho.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: AKIron on April 17, 2004, 12:17:52 PM
Thanks VOR, I'm convinced she is a "hell hound" ;)

And congrats on yer upcoming new arrival Storch.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: Virage on April 17, 2004, 12:46:41 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
also.. according to the charts it seems that the increases all came from defense and something called "911 response"  so... seems that they justified increases considering the situation.
lazs


It is all so suddenly clear.. why didn't I see it before?  Thank you Lazs for broadening my understanding of the human race.
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: BGBMAW on April 17, 2004, 03:53:45 PM
stabbyiceprik guy.u are a pssy

I could tell lazs is joking...



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Hey Lazs, maybe you should edit that threat to me you posted before someone decides to take action.


LMFAO..and Lars..u are a sissy too...lmfao.."taKE ACTION"..
LMFAO..ITS A GODDDAM bb ...WHAAAAAAAAAA


/and All you linguine spinend liberals..YAAA the more you talk the more you lose..Too bad Old Howard Dean is not still out there...And Nice..You Demorats sure Knwo how to support our soldiers..lmfao..disgusting maggots...Kennedy-Dean-Daschle-Clintons-Pelosi-Boxer-Feinstein-Byrd ..ect......dude..how can you guys support these people...? amazing...

Bush is Hitler!!..No war for OIL...

Are economy is horrible..what a bunch of losers

Love
BiGB
xoxo
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: strk on April 17, 2004, 03:55:11 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
strk... Hmm.. I was a contractor and never worked for anyone who wasn't working themselves.  They may have varied greatly in income but... they all coulda used a tax break.  How can you work for someone who has no income?  

When a person makes nothing...yes ZERO and gets a "tax credit"  then that is wrong.

lazs



That is true (first graf)

Im not against tax credits to benefit people with kids.  Maybe Im biased because i have a couple.

I dont mind paying my fair share of taxes.  I think it is patriotic to do so.  But I demand that the system be fair.  People who are just getting by could use a tax break, sure.  BUt lowering their federal income tax isnt enough, because the other payroll taxes make up a bigger portion anyway.

And a guy making a half mil a year is not going to "need" an extra 30k.  That money would be better used building a highway, a school, buying part of an F-18, or making it so the guy who is just getting by can pay no tax at all.  The Common Good.

This is the greatest country in the world, no doubt, and the folks who are rich need to remember that when it comes time to pay the tax man.   Paying taxes is our duty, and as Will Rogers said - just thank God you arent getting all the government you pay for
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: mietla on April 17, 2004, 04:18:30 PM
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Originally posted by strk


... But I demand that the system be fair.  People who are just getting by could use a tax break, sure. ...

...And a guy making a half mil a year is not going to "need" an extra 30k.  That money would be better used building a highway, a school, buying part of an F-18, or making it so the guy who is just getting by can pay no tax at all. ...


and this is you rdefineition of fair, huh?


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The Common Good.



year, right, common good. Funny definition of common you have here. One dude pays nothing, the other one pays for both of them, all this for "common" good. That's rich.  Common to whom?

What happened to property rights?
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: strk on April 17, 2004, 06:46:51 PM
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Originally posted by mietla
and this is you rdefineition of fair, huh?


 


year, right, common good. Funny definition of common you have here. One dude pays nothing, the other one pays for both of them, all this for "common" good. That's rich.  Common to whom?

What happened to property rights?


Nothing happened to property rights.  You just have no idea what they are, obviously.

Nothing else in your post merits any response
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: ra on April 17, 2004, 09:22:39 PM
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And a guy making a half mil a year is not going to "need" an extra 30k. That money would be better used building a highway, a school, buying part of an F-18, or making it so the guy who is just getting by can pay no tax at all. The Common Good.

He may not "need" that 30K, but the economy does.  Forcing him to send it to the Feds is just like burning it.  His money can create jobs, so long as the Feds don't spend it for him.

ra
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: mietla on April 17, 2004, 09:32:38 PM
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Originally posted by strk
Nothing happened to property rights.  


except that you see no problem in taking someone's property and giving it to someone else.

Other than that property rights are intact of course.



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You just have no idea what they are, obviously.


is your labor and productivity and the resulting income your property, or do they belong to the government?
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: lazs2 on April 18, 2004, 09:43:47 AM
strk... I believe people with children should get and even bigger tax break too but...

give me a list of all the things we spend money on and I will cross out at least half of em..   I will pay my fair share too but it should be about a third or less of what it is now..

As for roads.... we spend 34 cents or so per gallon on tax for "roads"  if we actually hired someone and payed em half that we would be able to redo every road in America in a couple af years... Schools?  are you kidding?   Vouchers would cost half as much and give twice the education for the buck.

Name one thing the government does efficiently besides create waste?   We need a central government for the protection of the country and constitution.   We do not need to redistribute the wealth.   For instance... you may get a "child" tax credit but people who have never made a cent get "tax credits" every year... this is plain theft... the government is taking my, and your tax money and giving it away to people because they make less than we do..  

I am all for charity... I probly give a couple of percent of my pay to charity every year.. I pick ones like salvation army that have allmost no waste and ignore ones like the red cross and such that are about 70% waste or more.

lazs
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Post by: Eagler on April 18, 2004, 10:13:08 AM
they didn't want to pay to advertize so they bounced a check or two ....
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Post by: lazs2 on April 18, 2004, 10:14:13 AM
they are liberals... they are above plebian bill paying.

lazs
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Post by: Martlet on April 18, 2004, 11:29:29 AM
When your target demographic is the unemployed hippie, you can't expect to run in the black.
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Post by: weaselsan on April 18, 2004, 11:58:52 AM
(http://www.dd841.com/images/airhd.jpg)
Title: Is Air America dead already?
Post by: mietla on April 18, 2004, 12:08:31 PM
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Originally posted by strk
Nothing hNothing else in your post merits any response


It's always much easier to get indignant rather then defend questionable views, when someone challanges them.