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Title: Run Awayyy
Post by: Hortlund on April 18, 2004, 11:52:14 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3637523.stm

Title: Run Awayyy
Post by: Dowding on April 18, 2004, 11:57:40 AM
When are you booking your flight out there tough guy? I'm sure one Swedish judge is worth a thousand Spanish soldiers.
Title: Run Awayyy
Post by: Hortlund on April 18, 2004, 12:00:36 PM
Heh, I thought you had me on ignore...
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Post by: Hortlund on April 18, 2004, 12:08:40 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
That was to be expected. The Spaniards wouldn't have been there in the first place if the previous government hadn't defied the will of its people. I found this one to be more interesting:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3637033.stm


Heh, yeah, that one is ...odd ...to say the least.
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Post by: Dowding on April 18, 2004, 12:12:32 PM
I couldn't be arsed to put you on there. Are you all packed and ready to go?
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Post by: Hortlund on April 18, 2004, 12:15:53 PM
Sure if they call up my unit.
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Post by: Dowding on April 18, 2004, 12:18:08 PM
lol

Not very likely is it? Why not join Custer Battles?
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 18, 2004, 12:28:17 PM
Oh well...
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Post by: Thrawn on April 18, 2004, 02:44:04 PM
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Sure if they call up my unit.


Which unit is that?
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Post by: muckmaw on April 18, 2004, 04:44:43 PM
I have to admit, I'm pretty angry at the Spanish government and it's people right now.

They made a commitment to a cause and when they encountered some difficulty, they renegged.

It says something about a country's people.
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Post by: Hortlund on April 18, 2004, 05:24:00 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Which unit is that?


National guards.
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Post by: FUNKED1 on April 18, 2004, 05:31:36 PM
Ah well, politicians suck.  

to the Spanish troops who risked their necks to help.

Also note that they would keep troops there if it was a UN operation.  Anybody have a good reason why Bush shouldn't negotiate a deal to get the UN to help out?
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Post by: muckmaw on April 18, 2004, 06:24:58 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Ah well, politicians suck.  

to the Spanish troops who risked their necks to help.

Also note that they would keep troops there if it was a UN operation.  Anybody have a good reason why Bush shouldn't negotiate a deal to get the UN to help out?


It's not the politicians here, Funker.

They are merely acting on the will of their people, as they should.
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 18, 2004, 07:46:15 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Ah well, politicians suck.  

to the Spanish troops who risked their necks to help.

Also note that they would keep troops there if it was a UN operation.  Anybody have a good reason why Bush shouldn't negotiate a deal to get the UN to help out?


Bush has been trying to get the UN in there from day 1.  

But lets remember the UN decided to pull out after its HQ was bombed so they likely have security concerns about operating in Iraq.
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Post by: Vulcan on April 18, 2004, 08:17:47 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
I have to admit, I'm pretty angry at the Spanish government and it's people right now.

They made a commitment to a cause and when they encountered some difficulty, they renegged.

It says something about a country's people.


Same could be said in relation to WW2, Vietnam, Cambodia, pre-Taliban Afghanistan, post-Gulf-War-I Iraq, and so on with regards to the US involvement.

At the end of the day do you really need Spains support? The US can handle it without Spain, and theres probably less complications too.
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Post by: Thrawn on April 19, 2004, 12:36:16 AM
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Originally posted by Hortlund
National guards.


I ment which regiment etc.
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Post by: -tronski- on April 19, 2004, 04:23:21 AM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Which unit is that?


The Schwedenkompanie, 2nd Lawyer Regiment,  1st Bush Bde./LeiberRumsfeld Division wasn't it ?

 Tronsky
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Post by: Maniac on April 19, 2004, 05:51:15 AM
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The Schwedenkompanie, 2nd Lawyer Regiment, 1st Bush Bde./LeiberRumsfeld Division wasn't it ?


Hes in the Swedish Bushjugend :)
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Post by: Saurdaukar on April 19, 2004, 07:55:43 AM
All I know is that The Party sent me a really cool arm band.

You guys are hosers, eh.
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Post by: lasersailor184 on April 19, 2004, 08:36:32 AM
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He's not a judge anymore. He's a lawyer ... I think that would qualify as a WMD.


Hmm, interesting topic you are broaching.


Oh well, guess we'll have to kill all lawyers and start again.





Get your lawyer permits right here!  Lawyer hunting permits!  25 dollars per permit!
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Post by: CyranoAH on April 19, 2004, 09:06:08 AM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Hmm, interesting topic you are broaching.


Oh well, guess we'll have to kill all lawyers and start again.

Get your lawyer permits right here!  Lawyer hunting permits!  25 dollars per permit!


Uhmmm any monthly maximum quota?

Daniel
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Post by: GODO on April 19, 2004, 01:19:16 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
It's not the politicians here, Funker.

They are merely acting on the will of their people, as they should.


Really? We are just beginning to suffer the decissions of a new-full-of-tards goverment that won the elections by a scandalous manipulation of 200 spaniards deaths. Consider also that these opportunistics won the elections by a very small margin, and two weeks before the victory was considered total for the previous goverment.
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Post by: muckmaw on April 19, 2004, 01:44:49 PM
News services here are reporting that 72% of the Spanish Population support withdrawing troops NOW.

Are you privy to a different perspective, living in Spain?
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Post by: muckmaw on April 19, 2004, 01:46:44 PM
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Same could be said in relation to WW2, Vietnam, Cambodia, pre-Taliban Afghanistan, post-Gulf-War-I Iraq, and so on with regards to the US involvement.

At the end of the day do you really need Spains support? The US can handle it without Spain, and theres probably less complications too.


How did we reneg on any commitment in WW2?

As a matter of fact, how did we abandon any ally in the above mentioned conflicts, save Vietnam?
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Post by: takeda on April 19, 2004, 01:57:09 PM
He's obviously from the 28%... Aint it great  this democracy thing?

I support the troops coming back, didn't support sending them and on top of everything they are not helping anything or anyone, just keeping themselves alive.

I'm somewhat surprised  by the hurry, because I expected some UNSC diplomatic bartering that would keep the troops there, but last week contacts between the new gov. and USA officials seem to have turned that into wishful thinking.
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Post by: GODO on April 19, 2004, 02:28:52 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
News services here are reporting that 72% of the Spanish Population support withdrawing troops NOW.

Are you privy to a different perspective, living in Spain?


Really? I was not aware about that "votation" ... Certainly, most people was against our involvment into the Iraq war operations, but this is different than withrawing the troops JUST NOW (the decission was took yesterday after some cocaine session), leaving the polish alone in the control of our zone, as well as all the iraq people that were being helped in a day by day basis by the spanish troops. It is just a demostration of the total lack of responsability of our new and inexperienced full-of-tards goverment.
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Post by: LePaul on April 19, 2004, 02:34:17 PM
In related news....30+ other countries are still in Iraq, helping out and working with the Coalition.

Don't blame all of Spain for the actions of this new guy.  Yes, they got their nose bloodied...and each to their own.  If their new get tough on terror policy is to retreat, they've got bigger problems than us.
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Post by: Vulcan on April 19, 2004, 02:57:44 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
How did we reneg on any commitment in WW2?

As a matter of fact, how did we abandon any ally in the above mentioned conflicts, save Vietnam?


What date did the US declare war on Germany and Japan (in fact who declared war n who first)? And what was the general feeling of voters regarding joining the war against Germany pre-Pearl Harbour?

Remember the civil uprising just after the 1st Gulf War which Saddam brutully put down?

What did the CIA do after they trained and armed the Afgani's to kick out the Soviets?

Just trying to point out its all a matter of perspective.

As long as the Spanish don't act like a bunch of a-holes veto'ing stuff in the UN you have to respect their decision. Its their choice not yours.