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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: midnight Target on April 19, 2004, 08:50:13 AM
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Interesting show on Comedy Central.. here is the top 20.
1. Richard Pryor
2. George Carlin
3. Lenny Bruce
4. Woody Allen
5. Chris Rock
6. Steve Martin
7. Rodney Dangerfield
8. Bill Cosby
9. Roseanne Barr
10. Eddie Murphy
11. Johnny Carson
12. Jerry Seinfeld
13. Robin Williams
14. Bob Newhart
15. David Letterman
16. Ellen DeGeneres
17. Don Rickles
18. Jonathan Winters
19. Bill Hicks
20. Sam Kinison
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Well, one that I would debate would be Woody Allen @ #4
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Robin Williams and Sam Kinison are both ranked too low.
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I caught some of this, in the #49, 50, and 51. It was cool to see some of Freddy Prinz's work being recognized. I was too young to see him perform so I'm glad I could catch the video sample that they used. I can't believe they rated Dennis Leary over Lewis Black. It was rigged!
I never really "got" Jonathan Winters' humor. Seemed a bit slow in pace. Maybe it was just the times he was in. Sam Kinison should've been rated above Jerry Seinfeld and Ellen Degeneres. Funny as Jerry and Ellen are, their stand-up acts were a bit flat compared to Sam's emotional outburst comedy. "I'm living in Hell! Ahh! Ahhhhh!"
Who is/was Bill Hicks?
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Well, one that I would debate would be Woody Allen @ #4
Same here. Woody may make funny films, but his stand-up act isn't comedic genius.
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" I really didn't mean hell was like club med, I was only kidding! OH!! OH!! OH!!"
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Bob Hope and Billy Crystal didn't make the list? Noy a very credible list.
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Bill Hicks is a pretty smart guy who wants desperately to be Lenny Bruce. He really hit it big in France.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Bob Hope and Billy Crystal didn't make the list? Noy a very credible list.
Crystal made it, just not the top 20.
I was wondering about Bob Hope myself.
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I'll Have to look this up and take a look.
Where are Red Skelton and Mort Saul?
Agree a top 20 without Bob Hope it pretty lame.
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That's not a good list! What about Buddy Hacket? Roseanne Barr above Eddie Murphy?! :mad:
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Originally posted by AKIron
Bob Hope and Billy Crystal didn't make the list? Noy a very credible list.
Crystal is a hack, and bob hope was just a dog and pony show for troops overseas. He didnt really change the way people look at stand up comedy or push any boundrys. Which is what comedy is all about.
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He didnt really change the way people look at stand up comedy or push any boundrys. Which is what comedy is all about.
I thought it was about being funny.
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Couple more I would have expected to see on that list, at least well above Rosanne Barr, Carol Burnett and Milton Berle.
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I can't believe Woody Allen and Chris Rock are in the top 20. :rolleyes:
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Yea, not much of a Chris Rock fan either.
Stephen Wright is good ("I had a dog, I named him 'Stay'. He always seemed confused when I'd call him... 'Come here, Stay, come here' " )
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Originally posted by myelo
I thought it was about being funny.
well that is implied. But when you have the same act for 50 years your not funny. (ie bob hope)
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Yeah, I was never much of a Bob Hope fan either.
I was just disagreeing with the idea that comedians have to “push the boundaries”. A lot of guys try to see how far they can go by being provocative, offensive, seeing what they can get away with, etc. Anybody can do that. Trouble is, they just ain’t funny.
It’s got to the point that some people think being a comedian is about being shocking instead of about being funny.
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The only thing funny about Jerry Seinfeld is Larry David.
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Gotta agree with Myelo here.
I'm also turned off by the trend over the last several years to get in the spotlight and blast a bunch of political shotguns instead of actually telling jokes.
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Originally posted by myelo
Yeah, I was never much of a Bob Hope fan either.
I was just disagreeing with the idea that comedians have to “push the boundaries”. A lot of guys try to see how far they can go by being provocative, offensive, seeing what they can get away with, etc. Anybody can do that. Trouble is, they just ain’t funny.
It’s got to the point that some people think being a comedian is about being shocking instead of about being funny.
Yea his name was andrew dice clay.
You have to push boundrys be orginal and funny to make that list it. Notice none of those standup comedians actually do much standup anymore or when they did it, for very long. They didnt beat their material like a dead horse. Although robbin williams is getting annoying these days.
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i have Jerry Seinfeld @ # 809873094. there is also another american that i never can remember the name of that should get into top 10...anyone know his name?
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bah seinfeld is great, but i will admit either you love him or you hate him.
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Robin Williams has always been annoying, but he started to peg out the annoying meter back in the late '80s. He changed his material a bit to be less crude, but he's still annoying. I'm not a fan of hyperactive rapid-fire comedic insanity.
"The only thing funny about Jerry Seinfeld is Larry David." You hit the nail on the head.
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David Letterman does stand up? News to me...
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You can put Carlin in a Trash Bag and send him to the dump, but Martin, Dangerfield and Kinison are pretty good.
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Originally posted by Udie
That's not a good list! What about Buddy Hacket? Roseanne Barr above Eddie Murphy?! :mad:
Buddy Hackett was the best!! If you had ever seen his Vegas show or heard his story telling before he should be ranked in the top 20. He was classic!
WhereTF is CarrotTop?? :p LOL!
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Jackie Gleason sorta did standup on The Jackie Gleason Show. Definitely one of my top 20 favorite comedians.
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Bill Hicks was actually pretty funny. Believe he died of cancer awhile back, pretty young to.
Joe Rogan and Dave Chapelle, 2 really funny standup guys, better then most on that list.
Where was andy kaufman?
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Love Kinison....... Carlin Sux
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Heh, my dad met Bob Hope once. Interesting story.
Carlin's good, so is most of the people on the list. Pryor surprised me, but he was a funny man.
I thought Kenison would have been higher...
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Originally posted by SLCR
Buddy Hackett was the best!! If you had ever seen his Vegas show or heard his story telling before he should be ranked in the top 20. He was classic!
WhereTF is CarrotTop?? :p LOL!
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CarrotTop is a comic wannabe with quite possibly the most annoying voice on the planet. I almost cancelled my AT&T account out of protest for having to endure those horrid 1800 CALL-ATT ads with him in it.
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FYI number 100 was Gallagher.
Here is the rest.
21. Dennis Miller
22. Robert Klein
23. Steven Wright
24. Redd Foxx
25. Bob Hope
26. Ray Romano
27. Jay Leno
28. Jack Benny
29. Milton Berle
30. Garry Shandling
31. George Burns
32. Albert Brooks
33. Andy Kaufman
34. Buddy Hackett
35. Phyllis Diller
36. Jim Carrey
37. Martin Lawrence
38. Bill Maher
39. Billy Crystal
40. Mort Sahl
41. Jon Stewart
42. Flip Wilson
43. Dave Chappelle
44. Joan Rivers
45. Richard Lewis
46. Adam Sandler
47. Henny Youngman
48. Tim Allen
49. Freddie Prinze
50. Denis Leary
51. Lewis Black
52. Damon Wayans
53. David Brenner
54. DL Hughley
55. Alan King
56. Colin Quinn
57. Richard Jeni
58. Larry Miller
59. Gilbert Gottfried
60. Jeff Foxworthy
61. Bobcat Goldthwait
62. Eddie Griffin
63. Jackie Mason
64. Richard Belzer
65. Cedrick the Enter.
66. Shelley Berman
67. Kevin Pollak
68. Dave Attell
69. Pat Cooper
70. Wanda Sykes
71. Red Buttons
72. Bernie Mac
73. Billy Connolly
74. Paul Rodriguez
75. Eddie Izzard
76. Robert Schimmel
77. Paul Reiser
78. Sinbad
79. Dom Irrera
80. Bobby Slayton
81. Dick Gregory
82. Howie Mandel
83. Norm MacDonald
84. Drew Carey
85. David Cross
86. Jay Mohr
87. Brett Butler
88. Paula Poundstone
89. Kevin James
90. Dana Carvey
91. Jim Breuer
92. Louie Anderson
93. George Wallace
94. David Alan Grier
95. Andrew 'Dice' Clay
96. Joey Bishop
97. Sandra Bernhard
98. Louis CK
99. Janeane Garofalo
100. Gallagher
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Woody Allen at #4 is a joke in itself.
Bob Newhart is a genius when he does his "phone call" routine.
Chrisk Rock shouldn't be that high on the list, either. Move up Dick Gregory and Dangerfield.
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LOL...forgot all about Sinbad. He's ok.
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Dave Attell
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Dave Attell
68
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Eddie Izzard at 75? blasphemy.
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Eddie Izzard at #75? Riiiiight.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Here's how it should be.
1. Richard Pryor
2. George Carlin
3. Lenny Bruce
4. Woody Allen <-- Remove, replace with Cosby.
5. Chris Rock
6. Steve Martin
7. Rodney Dangerfield
8. Bill Cosby <--- Jeremy Hotz takes his place.
9. Roseanne Barr <--- Move down a few slots.
10. Eddie Murphy
11. Johnny Carson
12. Jerry Seinfeld <--- Should be killed for being so damn annoying.
Put in Ron White Instead.
13. Robin Williams
14. Bob Newhart
15. David Letterman <--- Move down a few slots.
16. Ellen DeGeneres <--- Move down a few hundred slots.
17. Don Rickles
18. Jonathan Winters
19. Bill Hicks
20. Sam Kinison
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Alot of "standup comedians" seem to be ranked on their TV or movie prowess.
Jerry Sienfeld shouldn't be in the top 50. He had a great show, but his standup didn't carry well on it's own.
Ellen had a decent standup show too, but I seriously doubt it was a top25 show.
I did like Roseanne in the top 25. Someone that smurfy has to be decent to make it as big as she did.
I do think Buddy Hacket should have been higher on the list... and Chris Rock a bit lower... but neither are overwhelming oppinions. Chris Rock's newer stuff is pretty damn good. His older stuff was weak and he was totally uncomfortable in front of the audience.
I actually think Andy Kaufman should have been a bit lower and Sandra Bernhardt not even on the list. Andy was more of a performer than a commedian... even an "artist". More than half of the things he did were simply to see how people would react to it. If he were allive today, he'd be called the grandfather of the troll. Anyone that thinks Sandra should be on the list at all hasn't seen her show.
MiniD
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Oh yeah, the Amazing Johnathan should have been on there somewhere.
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I'd bump Lewis Black up a couple notches.
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Originally posted by Heretik
Eddie Izzard at 75? blasphemy.
He may be #75 on the Stand-Up list, but he's #1 on the Executive Transvestite list. :D
Seriously, have only seen him do stand-up on his HBO special but I have never laughed so hard. His act was one of the funniest I've ever seen. His website won a 2003 Yahoo People's Choice award.
(http://members.eisa.net.au/~johben57/izzard.jpg)
A couple guys that should have made it:
The Amazing Johnathon
Ollie Joe Prater
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No one is taking issue with number one. Neither would I. I actually think Ellen is underrated. So is Paula Poundstone.
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*GASP!* I didn't even see Lewis Black on the list nor remember him.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
No one is taking issue with number one. Neither would I. I actually think Ellen is underrated. So is Paula Poundstone.
I think Paula Poundstone is underrated, but will disagree forever with Ellen's placement on the list... or even in the top 25.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Mini D
I think Paula Poundstone is underrated, but will disagree forever with Ellen's placement on the list... or even in the top 25.
MiniD
Thankfully i never have seen her standup or her old tv show, so i really have no opinion on it.
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aw man where's Jay Leno?
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Carlin's good
SUX
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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
aw man where's Jay Leno?
#27
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
I'd bump Lewis Black up a couple notches.
I like Black as well, but if they move him up, they're going to have to move Mort Sahl up also. :D