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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: BGBMAW on April 19, 2004, 02:50:01 PM
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Any1?..
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Probably the Sydney Funnel Web spider, its fangs can penetrate a 1/2 leather boot and it is one of the few truly aggressive spiders
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Actually I am led to understand that the household "Daddy Longlegs Spider" (no idea what the latin name is) has the deadliest venom.
It cannot, however, bite humans as its fangs are UNABLE to penetrate human skin.
Am I right?
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Originally posted by Curval
Actually I am led to understand that the household "Daddy Longlegs Spider" (no idea what the latin name is) has the deadliest venom.
It cannot, however, bite humans as its fangs are UNABLE to penetrate human skin.
Am I right?
They did this one on 'Mythbusters'. The myth was busted. I don't remember the details.
ra
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my wife
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lol staffo
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The Brown Spider in Australia.. IIRC, not gonna google it.
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Its called a banana spider or something....
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Originally posted by ra
They did this one on 'Mythbusters'. The myth was busted. I don't remember the details.
ra
Really? Oooops...I helped propagate the myth the other day then.
My second guess would be the Banana Spider then. I think it is Brazilian.
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The funnel web spider can kill a man in 10 seconds just by lookin at 'em Paul Hogan as Crocodile Dundee
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DING! hawker 238 is the winner. Here's your prize... :aok
It's the Brazilian Wandering Spider, otherwise known, though incorrectly, as the Banana Spider. I forget the name of the other one, but it's a scrawny little arachnid that is also venomous and found hanging around bananas in the groves. Hence the reason it's known as a banana spider. This one got the nickname because it wanders all over the place and makes no web, and has been found in banana crates. Highly agressive, very venomous, and rather deadly.
http://www.petbugs.com/caresheets/P-fera.html
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Actually, it rests solely with what you call a "Daddy Long Legs."
Just like that Northern / Southern dialect tester, Daddy Long Legs is a different spider in the north then it is in the south and west.
The one that is the most poisonous is not really a spider (If I can recall correctly). It's the thing with very long very thin legs and a dollop for a body. This is more poisonous then any spider out there. However, it's only violent to spiders, it's fangs are really small, and it only carries enough venom to be able to kill another spider.
However, if you were to inject the same amount of venom as any normal spider, you'd die within minutes.
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Wrong, wrong, wrong. Absolutely brimming over with wrongability.
http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/longlegs.htm
According to snopes it's bollocks. However also according to snopes a study of the toxicity of daddy long legs venom has never been done........so ya never know it might be true after all.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
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Whats with the spider posts lately?
First we hear of 10 inch desert facehggers and now this. I hope you bastards can sleep at night...
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Swoop, that's not the bug I'm referring too.
Hence why I said a Daddy Long Legs is different in each region.
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I don't know how deadly this Camel spider is but it would make me sheet my pants!
Sent to me from a friend in Iraq.
(http://home.comcast.net/~sapathome/wsb/media/165946/site1016.jpg)
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Probably a normal house spider but it's yaws are too small to affect any human.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Swoop, that's not the bug I'm referring too.
Hence why I said a Daddy Long Legs is different in each region.
Yeah, none of those pics looked like a daddy long legs to me. I'll see if I can dig up a pic of what i know as one.
Edit:
Not a good pic, but a good description. (http://www.wnrmag.com/stories/2000/jun00/daddy.htm)
Here's a pic:
(http://www.fcps.k12.va.us/StratfordLandingES/Ecology/Arthropods/Harvestman/Butterfly327a.jpg)
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Originally posted by SLCR
I don't know how deadly this Camel spider is but it would make me sheet my pants!
(http://home.comcast.net/~sapathome/wsb/media/165946/site1016.jpg)
I can't get over that pic. That thing is shrecking NASTY! Who cares about venom? Prolly more tourists have died of a heart attack from seeing this.... thing.... than as a result of any spider bite.
Prolly a delicacy in some parts though...
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Nash I agree it's nasty, but it's 2 of them and the scale appears to be distorted by the camera distance . It appears to me that they are the most forward objects in the shot and maybe 2 inches long by my guess.
The pic makes it seem like it's an Alaskan king crab or something.
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If it's one thing I hate it's Spiders...
Jeez, that camel spider is going to give me nightmares!
Looks like the Baby Alien from the movies...Is that two spiders biting each other?
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Nash I agree it's nasty, but it's 2 of them and the scale appears to be distorted by the camera distance . It appears to me that they are the most forward objects in the shot and maybe 2 inches long by my guess.
ROFL... Couldnt agree more...
I hate spiders. I smash them everytime i find one.
A few years back I was bit BAD by what the doc thought was a spider. (unsure of which kind)
I hate them. The are sick, sneaky little bastiges.
Worse than snakes... Screw spiders.... Geesh the though makes me cringe:mad: :mad:
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lol, good spot!
Heh... with a different cropping that dude could get his palm read.
The spider looked to me to be about a foot and a half.
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Originally posted by NUKE
Nash I agree it's nasty, but it's 2 of them and the scale appears to be distorted by the camera distance . It appears to me that they are the most forward objects in the shot and maybe 2 inches long by my guess.
The pic makes it seem like it's an Alaskan king crab or something.
I think there a little bit bigger than than 2 inches...Maybe just a little bit bigger, but still.
Big enough to scare the crap out of me.
You can see his sleeve cuff and it looks like he's got them by a set of pliers.
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If someone reposts that GD pic of those GD Camel spiders again I swear I will send a crate of Brown Recluses to said logged IP.
Like many of you I ruttin' HATE arachnids of ANY type.
I actually tried to watch Arachnophobia one time. Worst movie decision of my life.
If someone reposts that GD pic of those GD Camel spiders again I swear I will send a crate of Brown Recluses to said logged IP.
Like many of you I ruttin' HATE arachnids of ANY type.
I actually tried to watch Arachnophobia one time. Worst movie decision of my life.
I grew up with the harmless non-spider Daddy Long Legs and they don't bother me at all. OTH I also grew up with "true" banana spiders and to this day they scare the crap out of me. There was a field across the street from my house that had a creek running through. It was mostly overgrown with brush and trees. As a kid my friends and I would "explore" down by the creek every chance we had, especially in the summer. The worst feeling in the world, that I have ever known, was during these "explorations" we would at some point walk through a brushy area and feel the tension of a spider web we had unknowingly walked through in our hair or shoulders. It could only be one spider. The nasty evil looking black and yellow stripped banana spider. You have never seen anyone run as fast as we did when that happened. Or as loud.
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We don't have to fear much from spiders in Belgium. Lots of them, but mostly small and their venom is mild.
I'm no specialist, but I think that one of our 'nastier' species is this one (called épeire diadème):
(http://mapage.noos.fr/naturaliste/limagne/images/epeireproie.jpg)
You'll see those very often, the adults are usually 2 cm diameter(with legs), I've already seen some individuals around 3.5 cm.
Being bitten by an adult is far from being life threatening but can lead to fever, swollen limb and great general discomfort for 2-3 days.
Our biggest spiders are around 5 cm diameter but most bites aren't worse than a wasp sting. And if I'm right there are no allergy issues with spider venom.
A couple of years ago I was really afraid of spiders. Then I bought a house which turned out to be 'the Spider's Palace'! Dozens of fresh webs in the basement and we regularly see those critters running around in the rooms. Well it did a lot to calm my fear. I won't leave one running on my bare arm but I don't flail hysterically anymore when that happens... I rarely kills spiders now, I try to put them outside instead. And I must say that their web makes useful mosquito netting in the summer, as we leave near a big pond...
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Are there any Spiders venomous enough to kill a human with just one bite?
Anyway, the most venomous creature on the planet is some Aussie Jellyfish, can't remember the name. A touch will kill you within a minute or so,,,yeaccchhhh
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Yuk!! I too hate spiders!
But here's some food for thought.....those little bastards actually do a lot of good.
Did you know that the combined weight of the insects on planet Earth far exceeds that of the combined human population?
If it werent for all the spiders eating vast quantities of those insects, there may just be that many insects that the combined human population weight wouldnt be a hell of a lot anyway. We'd all die of starvation.
Same goes for snakes with rats and mice.
Blue
The jellyfish you mean is probably the Box Jellyfish, and a Funnelweb bight is fatal if you dont get antivenom rather quickly.
I allways thought the most toxic/venomous creature was that Amazonian frog....the one the pygmies use the poison from to tip their arrows. It's bright red I think.
BTW anyone ever hear of an African spider that injects an aneasthetic and eats your flesh while you cant feel it?
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Originally posted by Nefarious
Is that two spiders biting each other?
Its one spider getting its backside chewed off by another spider (literally).
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What are those white things hanging off the abdomen of the bottom spider? They look like the plastic price tag tabs you see on clothes.
Ravs
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The most poisonous creature on earth is the blue-ringed octopus. Its a tiny, colorful octopus that occasionally shows up in the aquarium trade. Unfortunately it will kill you if it bites you.
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"BTW anyone ever hear of an African spider that injects an aneasthetic and eats your flesh while you cant feel it?"
That's pretty much the same as a mosquito does, hence it's bite is rather "dirty". It stings, spits and then sucks.
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Originally posted by SunTracker
The most poisonous creature on earth is the blue-ringed octopus. Its a tiny, colorful octopus that occasionally shows up in the aquarium trade. Unfortunately it will kill you if it bites you.
According to a BBC show, the most poisonous creature on earth is an innocuous looking jellyfish living off the coasts of Australia (btw Australia seems to hold the record of having the most poisonous fauna...). If you are stung by this jellyfish, you'll die in seconds.
The man presenting the show was seriously ballsy because, while coached by an australian oceanologist, he grabbed one of those and lifted it out of the water. :eek:
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No. The deadliest venom is that of a Cone Fish.
Sort of like a clam in a cone shell. It's off the coast of australia and normally doesn't come in contact with humans.
It's toxin kills you within a second. If you're lucky.
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According to this site (http://library.thinkquest.org/C007974/2_1box.htm) (which is used by snopes as a reference), the box jellyfish is much more poisonous than the cone shell (you'll find a link for this one as well on the same page): 70 reported fatalities for the 1st between november and april!! while for the cone shell, there have been 30 recorded cases of human envenomation by fish-eating cone shells, in some cases fatal.
I'll try to find some data from an university.
Found that (http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/cnidaria/Chironex.html) from Berkeley. Although this jellyfish IS deadly, true figures are somewhat less spectacular than what I've stated.
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I love spiders! We have these things called "Pumpkin Spiders" that get really big in the fall, and their abdomens look like pumpkins. They weave nice webs between the pyrmidela's and I'll catch flies, stun hornets and throw them in the webs, the kids get a kick out of it and we watch the spider do its thing on the live food. It also helps quell fear of spiders with the kids.
Spiders rock!
Pic of pumpkin spider on top, left of this PDF file:
http://www.bugpeople.org/taxa/Arachnida/Araneus_trifolium/CP-PumpkinSpider.pdf
Edit: My oldest son and I want a pet Tarantula, but wife flack shot us down. :(
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
...Edit: My oldest son and I want a pet Tarantula, but wife flack shot us down. :(
Surprise her and buy a young one for her too ;)
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Originally posted by deSelys
Surprise her and buy a young one for her too ;)
I ENJOY sex, deselys. I'd like to keep it around, thank you. :D
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I think I got bit by a spider the other day! I've got some kind of bug bite on my side and it has a HUGE welp and hurts like a son-of-a-biatch! I thought it was a zit at first and tried to pop it! :eek: :mad: Now it hurts more!
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I ENJOY sex, deselys. I'd like to keep it around, thank you. :D
You're right, sex* and spiders seem to be mutually exclusive...
* with women anyway...
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Particularly if you are the male spider and the female bites your head off during intercourse.
Ravs
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Ever been walking around at night, maybe taking out the trash and walk through an spider web you did not see....
And you feel it on your face and your head...and you just pray to god the spider was not home at the time...
Geez, I'm all itchy!!
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I would like to know just exactly how many spiders an average person comes into contact with each day. It's probably a much higher number than we think. Little buggers are everywhere.
I don't have a phobia of spiders per se, but when it comes to pets I'll stick to less exotic animals.
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I remember reading a stat somewhere that the average human will swallow 4 spiders while sleeping, over their lifetime.
:eek:
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Some sources list the black widow as the most poisonous. They are quite common here in AZ. From spring til late fall I routinely have several around the outside of the house. I don't bother them because they eat crickets. There are crickets everywhere here and I don't like the little bastards. Since black widows are orb weavers, they stay put in their web so if you are paying attention you won't run into one. I get them in the house once in a while, those I get rid of quickly.
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I've watched several wildlife series by folks like Steve Irwin, Liz Dalton, David Attenborough. The series "Deadly Australians" dealt with spiders and snakes. As I recall, the most dangerous spider was not the funnelweb but the Red Back. This does not necessarily mean that it is more venomous. Also taken into account was the creature's habitat. The Red Back spider likes to live near people - in the cracks between bricks in your garage for example. I don't know where the funnel web spider lives.
Same thing goes for snakes. The most poisonous snake in the world is the Fierce snake, but it lives in the NT desert (near Ayer's Rock?) - an area where few people are to be found.
But the most dangerous snake in Australia is the Brown snake. It is the second most poisonous snake in the world, and its habitat is suburbia! In the grass next to your kid's swing, or feeding off mice in the crawl space under your house. I've never been to OZ, but they tell me that when someone gets bitten by a snake over there, the Brown snake is the usual suspect. It's a bad tempered mofo to boot, and is not to be messed with.
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Remind me not to let me daughter leave the house...
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i dont mind spiders...they aint ever done nothing to me none...and are quite handy in mosquito season...
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Two things....I HATE SPIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I HATE SPIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those little (or big) bastards are sneaky and don't flippin discriminate against human or otherwise. They are quiet and you can't hear the damn things when they are moving...don't throw the tarantula card in here because that just exacerbates the issue that I hate the damn things!
I have been bitten by the little round body house spider and a brown recluse. The brown recluse just pushed my fear over the edge and all this was before I was 13.
The only thing I have for spiders other than the one we southerners call "Grandaddy Long Legs" is huge cans of bug spray and if that doesn't work then gasoline and a match!
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worst one's we have here in Texas are the black widows and brown recluse (think they're related to the Oz Funnel spider). I had a friend who got bit by a brown recluse last summer on the inner thigh. DUDE!!!! that was some KNARLY!!! stuff! :eek: :eek: :eek: He could only ware shorts for like 4 months and a big chunk of his flesh rotted away! :eek: :eek: about the size of a plumb. It was really gross.
What ever bit me sure did leave a very painful bump.
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Originally posted by beet1e
I've watched several wildlife series by folks like Steve Irwin, Liz Dalton, David Attenborough. The series "Deadly Australians" dealt with spiders and snakes. As I recall, the most dangerous spider was not the funnelweb but the Red Back. This does not necessarily mean that it is more venomous. Also taken into account was the creature's habitat. The Red Back spider likes to live near people - in the cracks between bricks in your garage for example. I don't know where the funnel web spider lives.
Same thing goes for snakes. The most poisonous snake in the world is the Fierce snake, but it lives in the NT desert (near Ayer's Rock?) - an area where few people are to be found.
But the most dangerous snake in Australia is the Brown snake. It is the second most poisonous snake in the world, and its habitat is suburbia! In the grass next to your kid's swing, or feeding off mice in the crawl space under your house. I've never been to OZ, but they tell me that when someone gets bitten by a snake over there, the Brown snake is the usual suspect. It's a bad tempered mofo to boot, and is not to be messed with.
The Redback(http://www.qmuseum.qld.gov.au/features/spiders/spiders/RedbackSpider.asp) is basically an Aussie version of the Black Widow, and it is everywhere, from the tropical rainforests to the desert, that is why it is more dangerous than the Funnel Web, which only lives in the Blue Mountains, and on the Great Dividing Range.
http://www.amonline.net.au/factsheets/funnelweb.htm
The Brown snake you are talking about would be the Eastern King Brown(http://www.qmuseum.qld.gov.au/features/snakes/snakedetail.asp?TaxName=Pseudechis+australis),or the Common Brown,(http://www.qmuseum.qld.gov.au/features/snakes/snakedetail.asp?TaxName=Pseudonaja+textilis) both nasty buggers, and often mistaken for one another just by way of their names, they dont look all that similar.
See hundreds of them in summer around here, thats why God invented shotguns.
Heres a page that shows the distribution of Australia's dangerous snakes, I'm lucky enough to live in an area that has every damn one of them bar the Copperhead and the Fierce snake.
http://www.usyd.edu.au/anaes/venom/snakebite.html#king
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I think a snake is the one animal I could shoot and feel no remorse.
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Don't the Aussie's called the Red Back a 'Wha'?
As in you're dead before you can say, 'What the f*** was that?'
Back in Malaysia we had some huge bloody spiders. Saw one on our telephone wire when I was about 10. It was black and had luminous green markings and was about 10 inches in diameter.
I threw a few stones at it and then thought the better of it.
Ravs
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Bluedog - great links! :)
The Brown I saw on TV was the Common Brown. Not even Steve Irwin would mess with it. A family had a pet parrot or similar bird on their porch. The bird was a messy eater, and its birdseed got spilled on the porch and found its way between the floorboards down into the crawl space. That attracted mice, and the mice attracted the snake.
Blue - if you have all those Browns right where you're living, do you keep the appropriate medical treatment in your house in case someone gets bitten?
The Taipan! I remember reading about that - one with machine gun jaws that can bite you a dozen times in a single strike. Do you know of any other snakes with a jaw mechanism like this?
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OK...!!!!
So..Any1 here have the Answer to MOST Poisonous Venom from a spider....??
And it does not mean just human ..but killing anything...
Please.. try to keep it simple..
So its either Daddy Long Legs-or Banana Spider?
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Well I'll reiterate. Some sources have the black widow as the deadliest spider. It's toxin is said to be 15 times more poisonous than your typical rattlesnake.
Edit: The whole daddy long legs thing is a myth... derned things don't have poison at all.
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thnk u steve...
But this girl was tryn to tell me she just saw it on the Discovery channel..Soem BS about DDL spider being super deadly venom...
knid of strange to hear many contradictions..and this isnt even polotics..lol
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Well, what we in North America call Daddy long legs isn't a spider at all, but a cousin of spiders called: Harvestmen. A picture of one is already in this thread.
Daddy-long-legs are often thought to be spiders, while in fact they are only distant cousins. Like spiders they have eight legs, but where a spider has a pair of "fangs," a harvestman has a pair of minute pincer-like claws and no venom
from the link:
http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/indexmag.html?[url]http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/spider/pholcus1.html[/URL]
However, in Europe the name Daddy long legs applies to a different animal entirely that actually is a spider: Pholcus phalangioides.
Comments on it's toxicity: Uncertain; not aggressive and probably too small to cause illness in humans.
Can be found at this link:
http://www.usq.edu.au/spider/find/spiders/508.htm
Hope this settles it for you.
Steve
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Steve, the Black Widow venom is only deadly to those allergic to it. But only 1/16 are allergic or something.
Otherwise it's just a venom that makes for a really miserable two days. Fevers, hallucinations, and the such.
But the cone fish I was talking about was more like a cross between a clam and a hermit crab. It's a clam in a hermit crab shell. It's a deep sea animal, So it would surprise me if 1 person is killed by it a year.
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lasersailor: WRONG!!!!!!
The venom of a black widow spider is said to be 15 times more poisonous than a rattlesnake.
http://nd.essortment.com/poisonousspider_rlpt.htm
Edit: To be fair Laser, you are right in that a healthy adult wouldn't die from a BW bite unless he/she was allergic. I bet this is what you meant. Small children and even elderly people can die from a BW bite.
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But the cone fish I was talking about was more like a cross between a clam and a hermit crab. It's a clam in a hermit crab shell. It's a deep sea animal, So it would surprise me if 1 person is killed by it a year.
This is interesting, no doubt this thing is more poisonous than a Black Widow, but the topic specifically requested "What Spider....."
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Originally posted by Steve
The whole daddy long legs thing is a myth... derned things don't have poison at all.
Wrong. The DDL is deadly poisonous. It's just that its fangs are not long enough to deliver a deadly bite, and so it's harmless.
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Beetle, read the other post I made about the DDL... then apologize.
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No, we dont keep anti-venom at home, but all Hospitals, and I think all Ambulance bases have a supply.
Thats one of the things places like Steve Erwin's Australia Zoo are really good for, they milk the snakes and make anti-venom, supplying it to Hospitals etc.
Allthough it is pretty common to see a snake, it isn't all that common to get bitten by one, pretty much it is something taught to primary school kids, that is, how to spot them, where they are likely to be, how to act when one is around, what to do if someone is bitten etc.
They pretty much are a fact of life, and everyone just learns to avoid them if they can, believe it or not, they are fairly easy to hear when they move if you know what to listen for, and a half decent dog will let you know a snake is around well before you get close enough for it to be a danger.
There are several types of plant that are thought to repel snakes too, Gerhanium (sp??) for one, so a lot of urban gardens are snake no-go zones.
Allso as a general rule, they are more afraid of you than you are of them, and will make every effort to get away from you.
Quite often when you see a snake, it is powering away from you as fast as it can go, generally because it was asleep untill you happened along.
If they are awake, they will be long gone by the time you show up.
The ones that show up on the back verandah, or start hanging out in your chicken coop get the old permanent 12 Guage shoo with the big broom that goes boom :)
They do a hell of a lot to control rodents though, so most people only kill the ones that are a direct threat.
The Eastern Brown is another multi-striker, it doesnt attack and run like a lot of snakes, it bights you, then bights you again, and again, and again.....I think that has a bit to do with it's 'level of dangerousness', in that not only is it's venom highly toxic, it injects huge amounts of it in several bights.
Same for a Tiger snake, multi-strike attack ,highly aggressive in breeding season, territorial, and it will come looking for you if you happen into it's territory at the wrong time of year., they are nowhere near as common as the Brown though.
LOL Ravvells, probably an Aboriginal thing....did you know that for a long time the Australian Aboriginals thought white men were called the Fekahwee tribe? Apparently the first white bloke they saw out in the bush strolled up and said "G'day mate, where the f**k are we?"
There used to be this song played on the radio a lot back when I was in primary school, Ah, here we go, for your listening/reading pleasure.
Redback On The Toilet Seat (1972)
Ralph Ernest 'Slim' Newton
There was a redback on the toilet seat, when I was there last night
I didn't see him in the dark, but boy I felt his bite.
I jumped high up into the air and when I hit the ground
That crafty redback spider, wasn't nowhere to be found.
I rushed into the missus, told her just where I'd been bit
She grabbed the cut-throat razor blade, and I nearly took a fit.
I said, "Just forget what's on your mind and call the doctor, please,
'Cause I've got a feeling that your cure is worse than the disease."
Chorus: There was a redback on the toilet seat, when I was there last night
I didn't see him in the dark, but boy I felt his bite.
And now I'm here in hospital, a sad and sorry site
And I curse the redback spider, on the toilet seat last night.
I can't lie down, I can't sit up and I don't know what to do
And all the nurses think it's funny, but that's not my point of view.
I tell you it's embarrassing and that to say the least
That I'm too sick to eat a bit, while that spider had a feast.
And when I get back home again, I'll tell you what I'll do
I'll make that redback suffer, for the pain I'm going through.
I've had so many needles, that I'm looking like a sieve
And I promise you that spider, hasn't very long to live.
LOL, good old crap Aussie bush music.
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Bluedog hehe, great stuff! :aok
Yep, I take your point about most snakes running or being more afraid of you than you are of them... The only exception I'm aware of is the African Black Mamba. That thing can stand with its head about 4'6" high off the ground. And it WILL give chase, and can "run" at 17mph using a side to side zig-zag sweeping motion. On the TV programme I saw, the guy who caught it got bitten on the hand right through the catch bag, and was in a bad way for a day or so. My girlie (Tomato) is from Africa, and tells me about the wildlife there - some scary stuff!
Steve! What am I supposed to be apologising for? :confused:
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crap..I STILL DO NOT SEE EVIDENCE that says.."this spiders venom is the most potent"....
im not looking for human killing spiders..
Steve the Ausralian posts doesnt really talk about world spiders..
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but..lmfao..thanks to all atleast trying to help..
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Originally posted by Bluedog
See hundreds of them in summer around here, thats why God invented shotguns.
Better idea then shotgun:
(http://krimzonpyro.com/ep/infodir/flamethrower-intro.jpg)
:aok
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I tell you what I've come into contact with the Camel Spider and it's definately no joke. From what I've been told the spiders venom actually numbs and starts to rot the skin around the area you were bitten. This is so it's easier for them to feed.
And if you think it's shy it's not by any means. Once while deployed to Kuwait we had one race up on us while standing out on the ramp bsing. It's lightning quick to say the least and not scared of anything. This little bugger came up on us and raised it's forward quarters wanting to fight us. There were atleast 7 of us standing there and the dang thing was persistent. It didn't flinch one bit and was basically telling us to move outta the area.
While in Qatar I had another run in with one. Mind you this thing was no bigger than a dime. I was out smoking in some shade and the little bugger came up to me just like that last one had. I proceeded to toss a small pebble at it. It charged forward at me. I figured it was a cocky little sucker so I threw another. It again raced even closer to me. Then on my last throw the little watermelon raced up my boot and I screamed and ran like a child kicking my boots all over. It was rather comical to say the least.
They are one freaking ugly creature. They about make you sick just looking at them. And to think they are in no way shape or form scared of you and are aggressive makes it worse. I'll take a scorpion in my tent anyday over one of these critters. Stuff your boots full and keep all items that can close, closed. Scared the crap outta me one night when I forgot to drop fully folded socks in my boots. I turned them upside down shook them out and proceeded to put them on. Shoved my foot in and something rather large and soft was in there. I freaked out to say the least. Come to find out I forgot to take my old sock outta the bottom of them. Once again very comical.
Oh and Nuke those things in that picture are fairly large but the one I saw in Kuwait was a bit larger. Those things especially hate other Camel Spiders. It wasn't uncommon to see 2 of them going at each other. Majority of the time you'd see them get close then one would bail the other way. But for the most part they were extremely aggressive. The one I saw in Kuwait was about the size of my fist clinched but with the second knuckle of each finger extending outward. This ofcourse was when it was honched down ready to strike too so it may have seemed a bit bigger than it actually was. All of it's legs were tight in close and it's forward quarter raised.
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Steve! What am I supposed to be apologising for?
You said I was wrong about the DLL. Well, I wasn't. In the post below the comments you typed I clearly stated the differences between the European DLL and the North American DLL.
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DLL maybe?
;)
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yup
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
crap..I STILL DO NOT SEE EVIDENCE that says.."this spiders venom is the most potent"....
http://www.petbugs.com/caresheets/P-fera.html
Some info. A quote from a linked site:
The most poisonous spider in the world is a difficult question to answer, because there are actually about a dozen very poisonous spiders in the world, all of which have caused human deaths. But perhaps the Black Widow Spider (Lactrodectus mactans) of North America is the most well known of the deadly spiders. The funnel-web spider of Australia is the spider with the most dangerous poison. According to the Guinness Book of Animal Records by Mark Carwardine, the world’s most venomous spiders are the Brazilian wandering spiders of the genus Phoneutria. In particular, the Brazilian Huntsman is widely believed to have the most active neurotoxic venom of any living spider. Its venom is so potent that only 0.006mg (0.00000021oz) is sufficient to kill a mouse.
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Originally posted by Steve
You said I was wrong about the DLL. Well, I wasn't. In the post below the comments you typed I clearly stated the differences between the European DLL and the North American DLL.
You quoted a link which said that the toxicity of the European DLL is "uncertain". It isn't. It's poison is deadly, but it cannot administer a bite to humans for the reasons I said. Far from its toxicity being unknown, my link describes its poison as "very potent".
http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/indexmag.html?http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/spider/pholcus2.html
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Anyone wanting to get rid of spiders in the house get a cat. When spiders start showing up in the house in late August, early September, our cat will stakeout the entry way. Almost every morning when I go to the bathroom I see partially eaten spiders, legs, etc. on the floor. Our cat definately earns his keep during that time of the year.
:aok
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Until it meets the dreaded Brazilian banana spider!
Ravs
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"Until it meets the dreaded Brazilian banana spider!"
We don't get those in Western Washington. I think the deadliest one we get are agreesive house spiders.
Rip, do you know of any deadly spiders in our neck of the woods?
:D
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
Probably a normal house spider but it's yaws are too small to affect any human.
Well, it should get off the rudder. :)
curly
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You quoted a link which said that the toxicity of the European DLL is "uncertain". It isn't
This isn't what you called me wrong on at all. Tell the truth! Don't try to change things around so you can win an argument.. a little honesty from you would be nice.
You said the following quote was wrong:
The whole daddy long legs thing is a myth... derned things don't have poison at all.
You even quoted it yourself. Well, the North American DLL indeed has no poison. In a later post, I went on to discuss the differences betwixt the European version and the N.A. version.
Again, my comment that you said was wrong said nothing about the European DLL.
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Originally posted by SLCR
I don't know how deadly this Camel spider is but it would make me sheet my pants!
Sent to me from a friend in Iraq.
-SLICER
Nah, urban legend. It's a phony image. Go to
http://www.snopes.com/photos/bugs/camelspider.asp
They even have the same photo.
curly
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I think it must be Goremanius Floridianius.
After nearly four years you'll still have a bitter taste in your mouth if bitten.
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Originally posted by Toad
I think it must be Goremanius Floridianius.
After nearly four years you'll still have a bitter taste in your mouth if bitten.
LOL
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OMG. I hate bananna spiders so much. I boat a lot. And those little things really like to spend time on boats. They're freakier then heck.
They have 4 legs they keep stabile. The other 2 pairs touch eachother and extend forward.
*SHUDDER*
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Steve
Yes you did go on to differentiate between the American & European, but you said this:Originally posted by Steve However, in Europe the name Daddy long legs applies to a different animal entirely that actually is a spider: Pholcus phalangioides.
Comments on it's toxicity: Uncertain; not aggressive and probably too small to cause illness in humans.
Can be found at this link:
http://www.usq.edu.au/spider/find/spiders/508.htm
Hope this settles it for you.
Steve
You gave the Latin genus name for the Euro DLL and immediately added the comments about its toxicity. Maybe your source is wrong. But I know from more than one source that the DLL (and admittedly I didn't know there were different versions therefore assume I was being told about the Euro one - Euro TV) that the DLL (Euro) has very potent venom.
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While this little spider may not kill you....friends have told me they wish they were dead as it's bite is brutal and very painful.
Take a lookie see at the photos
Oh My!!!! (http://dermatlas.med.jhmi.edu/derm/result.cfm?Diagnosis=1325362622)
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Curly those aren't fake by any means and though they aren't deadly they are agressive and they are fairly large. I know cause I've seen them first hand. And it's not by any means unheard of that 2 of them get into it like that. You can see one is clearly latched on to the hind quarters of the other one. Some of the stories are urban legend but I've ran into those and they are by no means small at all.
Take a close look at the top right and you'll see he's holding them up with a pair of pliers. They are really close to the camera but you can judge their size by the pliers. I've seen one about that large in Kuwait, it's not a fake photo.
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TEH NINJA SPIEDER HAS TEH DEADLEIST VENAM!!!!
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This little girl is outside my front door in my entry way. It's a bit of a close up but this BW is rather small, a little bigger than a quarter. Larger ones have a much bigger abdomen but still don't get much bigger than a .50 piece (leg span)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/335_1082606784_entry.jpg)
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The black widow is common in Arizona. I used to toss little pieces of plastic into their webs and watch them run out and put their huge fangs throught the palstic.
Their webs are SUPER strong.... a garden hose with a spray nozel will not effect it at all and when you walk through one, you know it's a widow web.....very spooky, as they usually are in their webs.
The good thing about widows is that they pretty much stay in their webs.....
Nice pic Steve
I think the Black Widow is one of the most creepy looking spiders.
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Thanks Nuke... stay to the right when you come to my front door
:eek:
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Originally posted by Steve
Thanks Nuke... stay to the right when you come to my front door
:eek:
you should go stomp on that thing.....you don't want it laying eggs.
I had an infestation about 5 years ago.
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Originally posted by Steve
Thanks Nuke... stay to the right when you come to my front door
:eek:
Again I say...
(http://krimzonpyro.com/ep/infodir/flamethrower-intro.jpg)
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Well, anything that makes meals of crickets is welcome outside my home. I'll admit scorpions creep me out but those lil buggers love crickets so I leave them alone as well. Found one in my hockey bag once though... that could have been an adventure.
the vision that the scorpion could have been clinging to the inside of my cup unseen still creeps me out.
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Steve - so where are we in the apology stakes? :D
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You owe me one. You called me wrong, I wasn't.
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Originally posted by flakbait
http://www.petbugs.com/caresheets/P-fera.html
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why lord why? Why did I click that link? Now I have the heebie Jeebies.
-Sik
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Originally posted by Steve
You owe me one. You called me wrong, I wasn't.
You said the European DLL's toxicity was uncertain. It isn't. It is highly potent.
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Let's try this again.... that's not what you called me wrong on.
also, if the Euro Dll is highly toxic, the web site I quoted was wrong, not me.
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Originally posted by Steve
Let's try this again.... that's not what you called me wrong on.
You said the DLL was not poisonous. It was not clear whether you were talking about the American or European when you said that because you made no distinction. I didn't even know there were two types. OK, maybe the American is not poisonous, but you didn't qualify it as such. You said the WHOLE DLL thing was a myth and that the dern things have no poison at all. By WHOLE thing, I am entitled to believe you were speaking of ALL DLL worldwide. Indeed, you went on to say that the European had "unknown" toxicity.
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It was not clear whether you were talking about the American or European when you said that because you made no distinction
Yup, therefore I wasn't wrong. You're wasting my time, go bother someone else.
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I called you wrong because I assumed you meant the European DLL - only because I didn't know of the American. You didn't SAY the American DLL has no poison. You just iterated the blanket statement that DLLs are not venomous. And that is not correct. You then compounded your error.
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Originally posted by beet1e
I called you wrong because I assumed you meant the European DLL - only because I didn't know of the American. You didn't SAY the American DLL has no poison. You just iterated the blanket statement that DLLs are not venomous. And that is not correct. You then compounded your error.
You must live a small and torturous life
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Originally posted by Rude
You must live a small and torturous life
No. I'm not married.