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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: 214thCavalier on April 19, 2004, 06:36:27 PM
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Fuel tank loadout is different.
In AH1 if you selected 75% you got 75% in all tanks ie main and both wing tanks. Repeat for 50% and 25%.
In latest beta for example if you select 50% fuel loadout you now get 75% in the main tank and no fuel in wing tanks which become unselectable.
Stall speeds are lower with flaps considerably so.
I intended to film a test then view it and note the speeds, unfortunately the film viewer is borked again.
So from memory 50% fuel, power on, gear up, no flaps stall speed is approx 95 mph and with full flaps approx 65-70mph.
And if you push for the stall it will rapidly drop a wing.
The F4U-1D however stalls full flaps at approx 80mph again with 50% fuel but of course its a lighter load than the -1's.
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I changed the way the fuel loadout works on the -1. It is still giving you the correct % of total capacity, but the main tank takes priority over the wing tanks.
Flaps for the other corsairs have not changed yet. The stall on the the -1 will be slightly lower than the other corsairs but it will be sharper. This is due to the addition of a spoiler strip on the right wing on the later F4Us.
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Pyro, are you guys going to keep fuel selection a closed system, in AH2, or do you think we might some day be able to separately choose each fuel tank's load?
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Ditto what moot said.
I think we can find and punt 2-3 different threads on the subject. I, and many others, would *really* love a "slider" or something that woudl allow different fuel percentages in each tank. The P40E, for example has a huge Fuselage tank. I'd like to be able to lower that a tad and throw in a larger Main tank percentage instead. Of course, thats for shorter hops in the MA.
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Yeah, you're supposed to burn off the Left and Right fuel tanks first anyway, so...
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Personally I would like to have the option as Pyro has it now in the F4U-1. If you want 50% fuel then you get one tank with 75% of its capacity. In AH that still allows you to have many miles and minutes of flight time in that one plane.
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Agree with moot on this point. A lot of aircraft I fly I purposely drain a specific tank(s) first - wishing I had a way to determine which fuel tanks I want filled, especially the Fw 190 series and the P-51.
To the 'beginner pilot' it's a don't care feature. To the seasoned veteran, it's a must have. The ability to determine where you carry your fuel should be almost as important as weapons convergance.
What you say Pyro? Enhancement for AH 2.01?
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The P-51 is already set up in a similar way. I can set up other planes to prioritize certain fuel tanks over others. If you have a plane you want changed, just tell me.
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It seems that most of us burn the "aft" tank on the 190's first, though it always defaults to main. You could set the auto fuel system to burn the aft tank first.
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TA-152, wing tanks should be the last to fill. Same with the 205. Or at least have these drained first before changing tanks in Auto.
If the all the 190s could be set to burn AFT first that would be great as well.
I may be wrong but I believe the F-8 and A-8 aux tanks were used for the C-3 injection (Erhöhte Notliestung). If so wouldn't these tanks drain when "wep" is engaged regardless of selected tank?
Similiarly with the D-9. The AUX tank held the water methanol (provided the AH d9 has mw50).
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The P-51 is already set up in a similar way. I can set up other planes to prioritize certain fuel tanks over others. If you have a plane you want changed, just tell me.
Maybe have the 205 burn the wing tanks 1st?
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Sounds great pyro! :)
Would be nice to have KI-61 tanks filled so that AUX-tank fills first before the right and left wing tanks and to have also wing tanks drained first if possible.
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I'm not talking about which tanks burn first. You can set that manually. I'm talking about which tanks are filled first when you take less than 100% fuel.
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Ahh, ok I was thinking that since the sequence is automatic anyway it would ok to set it up that way.
Well, anyways to get the AUX-tank fill up before the wing tanks would be great! :)
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OK then....
fill the wing tanks in the 205 last :D
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I would think that the main tank is the one we all want to have filled first. Simply put it is the tank that is an integral part of the COG of nearly aircraft modeled in the game. All the other tanks can be set as you said to burn first in manual mode and I know I would prefer that instead of having the game engine decide which one I want to burn first.
So I vote for fill the main tanks first then auxilliary and last the wing tanks.
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Wmaker, the sequence is not realy automatic, it is selected purly based on the current CG of the plane, i.e. we don't set the order of draining.
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Originally posted by hitech
Wmaker, the sequence is not realy automatic, it is selected purly based on the current CG of the plane, i.e. we don't set the order of draining.
wow I never knew that.
Pyro, I don't have time at the moment, but I will do a lil putzing around and post some requests when I get home from work tonight. Thanks for giving us this opportunity :)
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Originally posted by hitech
Wmaker, the sequence is not realy automatic, it is selected purly based on the current CG of the plane, i.e. we don't set the order of draining.
Cool!
Sure didn't know that!
I've always wondered why in some planes it changes the tanks in so rapid order, makes perfect sense now. :)
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Originally posted by Pyro
The P-51 is already set up in a similar way. I can set up other planes to prioritize certain fuel tanks over others. If you have a plane you want changed, just tell me.
Please make the P47 tanks filled like the P51 - main tank first and only then the Aux. tank.
Manual selection would be nice though. I like leaving about 1/8 in the Aux in case the main tank is hit, or I estimate the distance wrong. Burning 75% of the aux is a long time.
Bozon
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Bozon,
You can already manually scroll through the tanks and select the one you want. The default key is shift-f.
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Originally posted by Pyro
I'm not talking about which tanks burn first. You can set that manually. I'm talking about which tanks are filled first when you take less than 100% fuel.
Thats sounds good, the F key is easy enough to hit :). I do think that those planes with wing tanks should have the wing tanks filled last.
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Originally posted by Wmaker
Bozon,
You can already manually scroll through the tanks and select the one you want. The default key is shift-f.
I meant when loading the fuel, not inflight.
Bozon
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Thanks Pyro/Hitech!
My list...
- Fw 190 series, fill the aft tank last
- C.202/205 fill the wing tanks last
- Bf 110 - fill the LA/RA last
- A6M5b - fill AUX last
- Ar234 - AFT last
- D3A1 - AUX last
- Ju 87 - LA/RA last
- Ju 88 - LA/RA last
- Ki 61 - AUX last
- Ki 67 - LA/RA last
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I'm not positive the total amount of fuel will equal with these proposed tank switches (each tank holds a diff amount). Just ballpark figures:
P40B/E[list=1]75%
Main 100%
Fuselage - 25%
Aux - ?*
*Not sure if a full Aux tank would match the difference of fuel from Fuselage tank decreasing to 25%.
50%
Main - 75%
Aux - 75%
Fuselage - 25%
25%
Main - 50%
Aux - 50%
Fuselage - 0%[/list]
and ditto Fork's Fw190, 202/205, Bf110, A6M5B, A6M2, Ar234, D3A1, Ju87, Ju88, Ki61, Ki67.
**I'll also throw in the Mosquito - fill LA/RA tanks last. And the F4F/FM2 - Aux last.
Aux tanks last, wing tanks last, Aft tanks last and I'm a happy man :D
Whatever amount is in an aux tank (exception, P40, fuselage) - throw it into main tanks :)
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Thanks a lot HTC :)
same as already said:
Ta152 and 190 tanks filled in this priority: fwd-most first and aft-most after, then wings, as late as possible.
Same with the 262, forward tanks before rears.
Thanks again :D
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puntski :)
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Changed how fuel is loaded when selecting less than 100% on the 190's, 202/205, P40's,
F4F, 234, and 262.
:D :D :D
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what about the P47? :(
Bozon
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yeah what about it :)