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Title: All planes I think should be in AH2.
Post by: Turbo11 on April 22, 2004, 06:37:54 PM
American

A-26 Douglas Invader
A-28 Lockheed Hudson
AT-6 North American Texan
B-24 Consolidated Liberator
B-25 North American Mitchell
B-29 Boeing Superfortress
P-39 Bell Air Cobra
P-61 Northrop Black Widow
F2A Brewster Buffalo
F7F Grumman Tigercat
F8F Grumman Bearcat
C-46 Curtiss Commando
02SU Kingfisher
PBM Mariner
PBY Calalina
Lockheed PV-1 Ventura
SB2C Curtis Helldiver
SBD Douglas Dauntless
TBD Douglas Devastator

British

PBY Catalina
Short Sunderland
Fairey Swordfish
Dehavilland Tiger Moth

German

Dornier Do-17
Heinkel He-111
Heinkel He-177
Henschel Hs-123
Junkers Ju-52

Japaneese

Mitsubishi G4-M3
Mitsubishi A5-M

Soviet Union

Petlyakov Pe-2
Title: Sorry
Post by: Turbo11 on April 22, 2004, 06:40:20 PM
Takeout the SBD, sorry.
Title: All planes I think should be in AH2.
Post by: Rafe35 on April 22, 2004, 08:18:07 PM
Turbo11:

Grumman F7F and F8F are "Post-War" planes that they were too late to enter WWII and they were close to see the action, but War was ended while they were on the way to Japan, and also again, F2G-1/-2 Super Corsair were too late to see action.

Rafe
Title: All planes I think should be in AH2.
Post by: Karnak on April 22, 2004, 09:14:06 PM
Boy, just a little biased there, don'tchathink?

Lets see, here's a translation:

American:

Uber birds!!!!  Lots of  of uber birds. Some solid stuff and a little bit of crap to try to disguise the intent.

British:

Crap.

German:

Crap, but with a bone.

Japanese:

Utter crap!!!!

Soviet:

Its good, so we can only do one plane.
Title: Ok, I get it.
Post by: Turbo11 on April 22, 2004, 09:34:33 PM
Everything is crap to you.
Title: All planes I think should be in AH2.
Post by: Raptor on April 22, 2004, 09:48:19 PM
He is simply stating that there are alot of American planes already. Yes I agree that the planeset should be more balanced, but also there were quite alot of american planes compared to other countries.

I say add the p38J:aok
Then balance out the planeset
Then work on adding even more aircraft and vehicles

Maybe 2 weeks after Aces High 2 comes out every plane that saw action in WWII will be added;)
Title: All planes I think should be in AH2.
Post by: Karnak on April 22, 2004, 10:14:09 PM
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Originally posted by Raptor01
but also there were quite alot of american planes compared to other countries.

Not nearly so lopsided as you might think.

Japan had two fully separate airforces too.  The USSR had gobs of aircraft types.  The RAF had redundant types as well.

Asking for a B-24J is like asking for a Halifax Mk II.  Neither are significantly different than the B-17G or Lancaster Mk III when compared to gaps like the Ki-84, Pe-2 (which was a good choice) or Tu-2, He177A-5 or Ju188A-2 or Do217E.

There are huge numbers of aircraft not yet in AH and when you look at the total type list the majority are non-American.


Jeez, asking for the F7F and F8F against the A5M?:eek:  How distorted can you get, especially considering the mass produced, late war Ki-84 isn't even in the game yet.

Title: All planes I think should be in AH2.
Post by: Red Tail 444 on April 23, 2004, 11:07:23 AM
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Originally posted by Karnak
Jeez, asking for the F7F and F8F against the A5M?:eek:  How distorted can you get, especially considering the mass produced, late war Ki-84 isn't even in the game yet.


great point Karnak, but given the gamey aspect in here that A5 could win its share of HO's against the Bearcat.  :lol  I'm punting everything until Mr. Frank comes to dinner.
Title: All planes I think should be in AH2.
Post by: frank3 on April 23, 2004, 11:30:02 AM
Sorry I just had lunch.

Instead of adding new planes, I think they should get rid of the P-38 (Red.) :)
Title: All planes I think should be in AH2.
Post by: Raptor on April 23, 2004, 04:07:06 PM
*whips out a shotgun*
"What you say boy" :mad:
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Post by: Citabria on April 23, 2004, 04:30:59 PM
your forgetting the pb4y2 privateer. patrol navy version of the b24 with 6 turrets!

(http://www.r0013636.hostultra.com/uploads/data/media/1/pb4y_3.jpg)
Title: like
Post by: seankill on April 24, 2004, 11:50:18 AM
looks good i like it:o :o :o :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: sam
Post by: seankill on April 24, 2004, 11:55:46 AM
sam:cool:
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Post by: killnu on April 24, 2004, 05:59:29 PM
P38J
Title: All planes I think should be in AH2.
Post by: Panzzer on April 24, 2004, 07:38:09 PM
Since this discussion seems to be still alive, give us:

Brewster Model 239.

But with that we should have at least...

I-16 Rata

And... ... Pe-2, Bristol Blenheim, Curtiss Hawk A75 and Ki84...  :)
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Post by: DiabloTX on April 24, 2004, 08:57:43 PM
Other than reskinning it for ANZAC ground attack duty, why in hell would we need the AT-6 for?

Oh, right, for noobs.  :aok
Title: All planes I think should be in AH2.
Post by: Rafe35 on April 25, 2004, 03:11:49 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Other than reskinning it for ANZAC ground attack duty, why in hell would we need the AT-6 for?

Oh, right, for noobs.  :aok
Yeah, AT-6 would be excellent to train newbies in Training Area :D
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Post by: killnu on April 25, 2004, 06:29:01 PM
did someone really say get rid of the P38?!
Title: All planes I think should be in AH2.
Post by: AdmRose on April 25, 2004, 07:42:20 PM
Need this:

(http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/airacobra.jpg)
Title: Sorry
Post by: Turbo11 on April 25, 2004, 07:47:30 PM
I'm not good at knowing what planes look like, but, what is it? :confused:
Title: All planes I think should be in AH2.
Post by: DiabloTX on April 25, 2004, 07:48:55 PM
P-39 Airacobra, another obvious hole in the AH fleet.
Title: All planes I think should be in AH2.
Post by: hawker238 on April 25, 2004, 08:09:20 PM
Ki-84, P-39, and Pe-2.

Does anyone disagree with these 3?
Title: All planes I think should be in AH2.
Post by: Turbo11 on April 25, 2004, 08:10:10 PM
Me.
Title: All planes I think should be in AH2.
Post by: DiabloTX on April 25, 2004, 08:46:00 PM
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Originally posted by Turbo11
Me.


:rolleyes:

Not even going to ask why...
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Post by: Karnak on April 26, 2004, 03:28:53 PM
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Originally posted by hawker238
Ki-84, P-39, and Pe-2.

Those are all needed additions, though I think the P-39 is a lower priority than some others.  The Ki-84 and the Pe-2 are both way up there.
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Post by: Pooh21 on April 26, 2004, 05:08:10 PM
we need teh b29 with teh atomic b0mb!


















NM thats a dammedscrewy idea we need a p-39q to give spits 37mm where the sun dont shine like they got in FA
Title: All planes I think should be in AH2.
Post by: Tilt on April 26, 2004, 05:47:27 PM
Why not every AC/GV/Boat/ship/sub that saw active service in WWII.

Provided

1. More than 500 were in use  prior end WWII
2. When all those are done look to those where more than 100 were in in use prior end WWII
3. Then 50.
4. Then other stuff

On the atom bomb. When all the other stuff has been done first.

I reckon it should be perked at about 10,000 bomber perks. As you drop it you lose them

When dropped it will take out  every thing within a 4 sector (including freindly) radius including the B29 if its under 30K

Any fighter shooting down a B29 laden with A Bomb gets a 1000 perk point bonus.

B29's would only be available from Zone master bases and cost another 500 perks per mission if not returned.






A Tigermoth!.....might be interesting to force every one on AH2 ToD thru TigerMoth training before they get their Hurri 1 or Spit 1 or go on to Wellingtons or or what ever.

Does that mean US avatars have to learn on Harvards?
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Post by: Rasker on April 26, 2004, 06:26:26 PM
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Originally posted by Tilt


On the atom bomb. When all the other stuff has been done first.

I reckon it should be perked at about 10,000 bomber perks. As you drop it you lose them

When dropped it will take out  every thing within a 4 sector (including freindly) radius including the B29 if its under 30K
 


The largest hydrogen bomb ever dropped, the 62 megaton monster the Soviets dropped from a Bear turboprop in '61 or '62, probably would not destroy everything, in AH terms, in a 25 mile square sector.  A 1945 model 15 kiloton bomb would  knock down everything in an AH zone city, which is about third of a mile on a side.  If the city were one mile square, an airburst over the center *might* leave reinforced earthquake-resistant buildings standing in the corners (if such were modeled in AH).
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Post by: -tronski- on April 27, 2004, 02:35:17 AM
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Originally posted by hawker238
Ki-84, P-39, and Pe-2.

Does anyone disagree with these 3?


Add the Beaufighter Mk21/TFX, and you got my vote!

 Tronsky
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Post by: Elsinor on April 27, 2004, 05:14:58 PM
never any love for the P47....  1816 P-47Ns were produced and saw extensive combat in the PTO.  This is far more than many aircraft that are currently in the game.  Furthermore, 130 P-47Ms were produced, nearly as much as the 150 Ta-152s produced.