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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Maniac on April 23, 2004, 01:56:19 AM
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Hey HT.
An simple way to promote the different arenas that we allready have is simply to give the AH playerbase information about them...
Yes we who are here on the BBS know the ins and outs of AH but how many are we here? 30%? 40% of the playerbase?
Would it be too much to ask to have an information page pop up each time you log in to AH? Before you select arenas i mean...
This information page could describe the different arenas...
Like :
Combat Theater Arena : Fly in a more "realistic" arena with Axis Vs Allies.
Dueling arena : Furball untill you puke
Main arena : Blabla blaabla
You get the point :)
Edit : On another point, Wy not change the name "main arena" to something different? djust the word "main arena" suggest that thats the place you should be because its the "main arena"
Why not give all arenas the chance of succeed?
Remove the word "Main" completly from the arena selection...
Thx
:)
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Originally posted by Maniac
Would it be too much to ask to have an information page pop up each time you log in to AH?
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GRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! :(
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GRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Of course with a checkbox with the option "Do no not display this pop up on the next login"
:)
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Yes this is definitely a requirement, or something like it.
"IF" we went with 2 main arenas, MA 1 and MA 2 will still find people going to #1 first..
SKurj
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"IF" we went with 2 main arenas, MA 1 and MA 2 will still find people going to #1 first..
Ya, thats why i dont like the "Main Arena" name, If we went with 2 main arenas then why not name them after what map are in them?
That would be great...
1. Pizza Map
2. Oz Kanzas
3. BoB (Axis Vs Allies)
etc...
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See the nfo once and it's enough, why read the same .txt over and over again?
A new name is maybe better but we already have plenty: a title, the number of players over max occupancy, and the ping.
Maybe add a button at the arena list page, but you could just as well go in each and see for yourself.
edit: adding the map name would be better, yes.
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See the nfo once and it's enough, why read the same .txt over and over again?
Of course with a checkbox with the option "Do no not display this pop up on the next login" would be great...
And if HTC changes any info on the "login popup" then it defaults to pop up to all the people who allready have "checked" the "checkbox"
That last part was a bit cryptic but i cant find the correct words today :)
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makes sense.
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Yes it would be to much to ask. Just think of other things that have popup messages, like tip of the day after a new instalation.
1. How often do you read those.
2. How often do you think, wish they didn't do that crap.
It is basicly just a forced help system that still dosn't cbange any thing except make it more of a pain to use.
2nd on your nameing suggestion, It seems like your goal is to move people to the CT arena. Even from a stand point of how you describe the arenas to there order.
My goal isn't to move poeple to the CT arena,it is not to prevent them from going there either. So why would I want to rename the main arena, which is exatly what it is, to somthing different?
HiTech
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My goal isn't to move poeple to the CT arena,it is not to prevent them from going there either. So why would I want to rename the main arena, which is exatly what it is, to somthing different?
No problem, then atleast we now know your stance on this...
Multiple arenas will never function with the current setup, and it is not the wish from HTC for it to function either.
If theres an arena called the Main arena then theres where all the folks will go.
And thats final.
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Key to multiple arena succes...
Is not to screw with the system already in place.
If it aint broke dont try and fix it;)
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Is not to screw with the system already in place.
If it aint broke dont try and fix it
No.
The main arena is a success. The other arenas are djust there for show...
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the name's arbitrary and the players are the bottom line to what's succesful or not. They play for the hit sprites, not for the arena name...
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Warbirds already trys/tried so ething of this sort. People still go to the most full place.
Same thing happened in Air Warrior (but it had arena number caps) In these days there were hundreds of players in multiple arenas (this is the only game I ever saw with multiple full arenas).
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the name's arbitrary and the players are the bottom line to what's succesful or not. They play for the hit sprites, not for the arena name...
Yes players play for shooting things down. I agree completly.
Back to the subject.
The names of the arenas have a big role in which arena is the big hit...
Warbirds already trys/tried so ething of this sort. People still go to the most full place.
Yes, and thats because theres at the most 100 people online at the same time in WB. I can understand that they want to play with eachother...
They aint got the player base to split up between arenas.
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what's your example of a better name for the MA?
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Maniac: Multiple arenas function just fine now.
They just do not function as you desire them to.
So I'm still trying to figure out what your arena goal is.
Is it
1. To have more people in the CT.
2. To have more smaller arenas?
3. To have a furball arena?
4. None of the above, so please specify.
Give me a hint, because as far as I can see your trying to fix a problem where none exist.
HiTech
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Originally posted by hitech
I'm still trying to figure out what your arena goal is.
Is it
1. To have more people in the CT.
2. To have more smaller arenas?
3. To have a furball arena?
4. None of the above, so please specify.
HiTech
Finding a way to get more people into the CT would be nice. I think it's a catch 22 right now. It's a lot of fun there, but players don't go there because of the low numbers, and the numbers won't grow until players go there. I can't see any other reason for the standoff.
grizzly
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4. None of the above, so please specify.
The current arena is too crowded... it was perfect for around 250 people, but more then that and it gets too crowded...
Would be nice to spread the customer base between arenas. Atleast now when its a possibility with up to 500 players in the MA...
I can understand not wanting to split up the players when we were 200 or less on every night ....
what's your example of a better name for the MA?
As i said before, It seems that HTC wants everyone to focus on the current main arena... The name "Main Arena" could easily be named "The place to be". it fills the same agenda as "Main Arena"
I would like it to be named something along the lines with what you actually do in the Arena... like "3 countrys vs 3" or something similar, im not that bright but you catch my drift... :)
Or as i said earlier, have the name "main arena" substituted with the name of the current map thats in it...
Alot of different solutions too this...
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Maniac if the goal is to just split up arena numbers. Naming isn't an issure.
Call them
Main arena 1
Main arena 2,
Main arena 3
All 3 with duplicate setups. This still causes many issues of flying with squads. And milk running empty arenas.
If I ever do split up mains, it would be forced what arena you fly in, i.e. by squads , then by some other meens for none squad members, would be mixed up on some time bases "once a day, or once a week", so you are not always flying against the same people, and would be entered into by just selecting the main arena, and you would be drop into the "Sub arena".
The one down side to this method is during realy low times, havn't come up with a solution im totaly happy with yet on this. But the force might be off once numbers drop blow some level.
HiTech
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There is no reason to break up the MA if the maps are balanced and dont restrict flying styles like some of the current maps do.
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Originally posted by hitech
Maniac if the goal is to just split up arena numbers. Naming isn't an issure.
Call them
Main arena 1
Main arena 2,
Main arena 3
All 3 with duplicate setups. This still causes many issues of flying with squads. And milk running empty arenas.
If I ever do split up mains, it would be forced what arena you fly in, i.e. by squads , then by some other meens for none squad members, would be mixed up on some time bases "once a day, or once a week", so you are not always flying against the same people, and would be entered into by just selecting the main arena, and you would be drop into the "Sub arena".
The one down side to this method is during realy low times, havn't come up with a solution im totaly happy with yet on this. But the force might be off once numbers drop blow some level.
HiTech
HT,
If I may ... I don't like this idea.
Take these scenarios ...
If the 13th is relegated for the week/day/whatever to fly in MA 2 and there is no other 13th members on, I like to wing up with other friends that I have established.
So if I am relegated to MA 2 and Delirium and the "Nomads" are relegated to MA 1, then I am SOL.
What happens when, and I have been doing this more and more, there are no other 13th on, no other Nomads on, and I want to switch from Knights to Rooks to go fly with Morpheus and XtremJ.
What selection criteria would be used to determine what MA I get relegated to ... I would get a 1 in 3 chance of getting into the same MA as those guys and couldn't switch back to Knights for 12 hours if I didn't get put into the right MA.
Like Morpheus said ... If it ain't broke ... don't fix it.
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SlapShot:I Was not proposing to make the change. Was just stating that if I were to split arenas, along what lines I would do it.
No mater what , if arenas were split your going to have the same problem you described.
HiTech
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Originally posted by hitech
SlapShot:I Was not proposing to make the change. Was just stating that if I were to split arenas, along what lines I would do it.
No mater what , if arenas were split your going to have the same problem you described.
HiTech
IF there were split arenas.
It would be nice to be able to do a FIND on a player ID or Squad ID and see what arenas they are in so I know where I might want to fly before I select an arena.
Actually it would be nice if we had that feature now - so I can see where my friends and or squad mates are flying - be it hte Main or CT or SE . . . Instead of hopping into each arena and waiting for the roster to queue up and scroll and see who is in.
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Originally posted by hitech
SlapShot:I Was not proposing to make the change. Was just stating that if I were to split arenas, along what lines I would do it.
No mater what , if arenas were split your going to have the same problem you described.
HiTech
HT, I understand you were doing a little brainstormin' ... just wasn't sure if those scenarios had been considered.
Even if the arenas were split, at least I would still have the "choice" as to where I could fly and with whom I could fly with. I understand the time delay on side switching and have no problem with that.