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Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Gnslngr on April 23, 2004, 09:25:43 PM
You guys have helped in the past well I need it again:

Last week my computer wouldnt boot....it would start up but the monitor light would just sit there and blink with me staring at a blank screen.

since then I've swapped out:

RAM
HD
CDROM
KEYBOARD
MOUSE
M. BOARD
VID CARD
powersupply

hell I have enough spare parts to build a new computer.  

The real meat fo the question is this.  With an HP m.board (my spare)  do you have to do anything special just to get the board bios to boot.

my spare is doing the same thing as the original...almost....it just sits there at that blue screen w/ HP Invent on it.  It is a P4 1.0G

Any help would be appreciated:
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Sixpence on April 23, 2004, 09:27:34 PM
Maybe resetting the bios? Not sure really, that is just a guess. There should be a jumper to do it.
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Gnslngr on April 23, 2004, 10:21:52 PM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Maybe resetting the bios? Not sure really, that is just a guess. There should be a jumper to do it.


I havnt found any jumpers but the keyboard loads cause the light comes on.  I get it to say "entering setup" but nothing after that.  I'm getting close in some of the trouble shooting sites but I've never had to TS a bad or corrupt bios
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Sixpence on April 23, 2004, 11:45:16 PM
cc, if you know what board it is you might be able to find a manual for it online. I had a similar problem and reset the bios, but I forget what I did to cause the problem.
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Torque on April 24, 2004, 12:20:03 AM
Pop the battery out.
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Gnslngr on April 24, 2004, 12:33:01 AM
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Originally posted by Torque
Pop the battery out.


tried it...no change.  I've given up.  The guy I got the MB from says he never ran XP on it.  While booting I get the set up menu but the bios seems to lock up on any selection.  Anyone have any good sudjestions for an MB under $70.  That seems to be my budget right now.
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Sixpence on April 24, 2004, 12:38:42 AM
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Originally posted by Gnslngr
tried it...no change.  I've given up.  The guy I got the MB from says he never ran XP on it.  While booting I get the set up menu but the bios seems to lock up on any selection.  Anyone have any good sudjestions for an MB under $70.  That seems to be my budget right now.


Can you give the model # of the mobo and who makes it, or the model # of the comp it came out of?
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: AKIron on April 24, 2004, 10:34:45 AM
Sounds like the motherboard but since you swapped that out I dunno. Assuming you set everything correctly it looks like the only thing you haven't swapped is the cpu, or did you include that with the mohterboard? You have thermal grease between the fan and cpu and the fan connected properly?
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Gunslinger on April 24, 2004, 10:38:47 AM
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Originally posted by AKIron
Sounds like the motherboard but since you swapped that out I dunno. Assuming you set everything correctly it looks like the only thing you haven't swapped is the cpu, or did you include that with the mohterboard? You have thermal grease between the fan and cpu and the fan connected properly?


yup my old ECS k7S5 is pretty much toast.  I have a PIII 1.0Ghz off an older HP.  The problem with that one is that the bios is screwd.  Everytime I try to access it it locks up on me.  I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be buying a new one....thing that sucks is that I have to get all new ram as most new MBs only have DDR slots and i'm still using SDRAM.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=114901
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Sixpence on April 24, 2004, 10:42:01 AM
So you put another CPU in it? Was it faster? Maybe it is not recognizing the different CPU? Again, just another guess
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Sixpence on April 24, 2004, 10:46:15 AM
Found these links that may be helpful

http://www.ecsusa.com/support/supportCenter.html

http://www.ecsusa.com/downloads/bios.html

http://www.ecsusa.com/downloads/manual.html
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Gunslinger on April 24, 2004, 11:01:45 AM
I'm not sure if the CPU is bad or not on the ECS board.  I dont have a spar AMD CPU.  I went to the ecs site and tried a few diff. jumper settings with no joy.  The A drive light doesnt even come on.  I'm just to the point of were I'm lookin at replacing them both and upgrading to something a little faster

but I know my backup board (HP) wont boot either wich pisses me off cause that's the only reason I have it.  

to add insult to injurry I just got my wife her own computer so she stays off mine and now mines broke.  :mad:
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Sixpence on April 24, 2004, 11:06:36 AM
http://www.ecsusa.com/downloads/manual_k7s.html

In this manual there is a jumper to clear the bios

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/55_1082822380_gg.jpg)

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/55_1082822648_ff.jpg)

 I cut out(in black near round batt) is where J4 is located, it should reset the bios.

It's worth a try if nothing else works.
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Gunslinger on April 24, 2004, 11:12:24 AM
tried it....no joy ty for the help though
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Sixpence on April 24, 2004, 11:13:27 AM
Oh, just change jumper for a few seconds, then put back the way it was.   Sorry, maybe whack it with a hammer?;)
Title: Re: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: MrLars on April 24, 2004, 12:00:24 PM
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Originally posted by Gnslngr


my spare is doing the same thing as the original...almost....it just sits there at that blue screen w/ HP Invent on it.  It is a P4 1.0G

Any help would be appreciated:


I had a similar problem recently. What happened was that the floppy drive power plug was inverted. I believe that what happened is that the MB saw a polairity problem and barfed.

What I did to find the problem was to disconnect all my HD's, floppy and CD/DVD then reconnect one by one restarting each time. That's where I found that I had the FD power plug wrong.

Hope this helps.
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Roscoroo on April 24, 2004, 12:05:08 PM
this may help for trouble shooting your ecs mb

http://b29.ezboard.com/fk7s5amotherboardforumfrm5.showMessage?topicID=1200.topic (http://b29.ezboard.com/fk7s5amotherboardforumfrm5.showMessage?topicID=1200.topic)


do the jumper to reset the bios ... either hold dwn F-8 (to start in default mode) or hit the del key as it boots up to get to the bios screen .
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: AKIron on April 24, 2004, 12:07:28 PM
A reversed ribbon cable to the cdrom drive will cause that too. I assumed you tried it with nothing connected to the mainboard, if not, do what MrLars said.
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Gunslinger on April 24, 2004, 12:33:30 PM
I posted this in the hardware forum as well:

here's exactly what happened: (I know I'm an idiot please dont laugh)

We just got DSL in our house and I got the network up and running through a new lynxus router.

When I was trying to network the two computers together for file sharing I totally corrupted my TCP/IP protocals (dont ask me how)

I tried all the windows fixes (I'm runing XP pro BTW) and even deleted the winsok's in the registry to reinstall them from my wife's computer. no luck there.

SO I said screw it and did a format and reinstall windows. (i was due for one anyways) While XP was installing it kept coming up with several errors and wouldnt boot. Turns out my CD was scratched or the CDrom is going bad.

Either way I hooked my hard drive up to my wifes computer and it installed perfectly booted just fine and everything.

When I returned the HD to my computer and booted it up it would power on. the HD would spin up but no system beep the monitor power light just sits there and blinks.

I unplug the monitor and I get the no signal banner(so i know that's working)
I swaped the P/S and still the same
I tried swapping my video card for an old PCI ATI that I have no joy
I unplugged everying on the board and just hooked up a keyboard vid card and monitor and the bios wouldnt go into setup
I tried the jumper settings posted on the ECS website and it didnt work.
I tried different ram sticks and configurations (IE 2 64s 2 128s)no joy
I hooked up my 31/2 A drive and it's light doesnt even come on.

with nothing connected but a vid card, monitor, ram, and keyboard......it doesnt beep or anything....keyboard lights dont even come on.  Ty for the advice though guys I really appreciate it


my prognosis.....BIOS screwed....processor bad....or....MB is bad
Title: Pulling My Hair Out
Post by: Torque on April 24, 2004, 05:38:19 PM
Barebones boot and no post bios beep most likey your mb is porked, you could flah bios from floppy to be sure.

You can't swap HDs in and out  between Via and Nividia based chipset MBs.