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Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: medicboy on April 24, 2004, 04:54:28 PM
I was doing the 60,000 mile service on my 4-runner today and decided that whoever designed the engine layout had very small hands.  Im 6'3", 210lbs, and have size 13 feet.  xl gloves are too small for me, so needless to say I don't have any skin left on my knuckles.....:(

And why the he!! do you have to take most of the intake system off to get to the spark plugs???????????????????????????????
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: Gunslinger on April 24, 2004, 04:55:21 PM
try working on F-16s and have big hands.  You'd think all engineers are midgets/small children  lol I feel your pain
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: Torque on April 24, 2004, 04:59:29 PM
Gurls luv big hands it's a fair offset to the other afflictions they bring.
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: Nilsen on April 24, 2004, 05:04:23 PM
that is what garages as for :aok

yes....i have no clue when it comes to mechanical things but i can replace a ram chip if i have too
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: Tarmac on April 24, 2004, 05:22:27 PM
That's what you get for buying a foreign car.
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: Nilsen on April 24, 2004, 05:24:03 PM
or one made after 1980...with all them puters in them :aok
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: capt. apathy on April 24, 2004, 09:37:19 PM
it's my opinion (From years of research) that when engineers design anything that a man has to work in( or reach into) they make all access points optimal size then when the prints are drawn they scale everything back 25% and laugh theri tulips off
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: Gnslngr on April 24, 2004, 09:59:37 PM
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
it's my opinion (From years of research) that when engineers design anything that a man has to work in( or reach into) they make all access points optimal size then when the prints are drawn they scale everything back 25% and laugh theri tulips off


this sounds just about right with air craft mait.  There's times were i'm in a cockpit with my arms reaching behind my back in a hole half the size of a small shoe box safeywiring somthing blind while upside down.  There's just no other way to get to it.


the other thing that makes me mad when i'm working on the jeep is when I have a drive shaft on one side and a transmission on the other....the wrench only has about 5 degrees of movment and my ratchet has so much slop I can get it to click.
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: capt. apathy on April 24, 2004, 10:09:05 PM
Jeeps are one of the worst to get too anything
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: Gnslngr on April 24, 2004, 10:24:08 PM
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
Jeeps are one of the worst to get too anything
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underbody yes.  Underhood NO.  One thing but jeeps is you never have to take the hood off and you have ALOT of room to work on the inline 6.  underbody though.....forget it lol
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 24, 2004, 11:07:20 PM
Rule #1
Engineers that design these things that fit perfectly on paper rarely if ever work on them themselves

Rule #2

95% Of all Engineers are all stuck in what I call "Rube Goldberg" Mode and insist on making everything about 30 times more complex then it needs to be. Instead of taking something complex and making it something easy to deal with. they take something that should be easy and try to see how complex they can make it
:D
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: lazs2 on April 25, 2004, 09:19:39 AM
my hands are big but my fingers are very long.  It is a real pain because my trigger finger allways hits the trigger on like the back of the second pad... some guns the end of the trigger finger hits my thumb on the grip...  

A bad situation for rapid zombie killing.  

oh... try working on a 100 healey with a small block in it.   By contrast I can allmost stand in the engine bay of my big block Elky.  Fastest plug change I ever did... took about 10 minutes just messing around gapping em and all.

lazs
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: rpm on April 25, 2004, 11:18:59 AM
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Originally posted by Tarmac
That's what you get for buying a foreign car.

Have you tried to change the plugs on ANY V-8 built since 1990? Granted there have been vast improvements in engine design (serpentine belts, ect) that have cleaned up the looks, but they managed to make some simple projects like changing a timing belt and made them like building a nuclear reactor. The idea behind this is to eliminate the ability to repair outside of a Factory Authorized repair facility. It's not far from happening either.
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: Ripper29 on April 25, 2004, 12:01:09 PM
Be thankful that Medicboy is not your Proctologist.........
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: rabbidrabbit on April 25, 2004, 12:15:33 PM
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Originally posted by Ripper29
Be thankful that Medicboy is not your Proctologist.........



Coming from a guy anmed Ripper... I'm disturbed..
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: capt. apathy on April 25, 2004, 12:36:45 PM
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Originally posted by rpm371
The idea behind this is to eliminate the ability to repair outside of a Factory Authorized repair facility. It's not far from happening either.


I bought a ford escort in 86.  for just about any repair you had to make on that car there was a special tool required.

the price of these tools was almost always $20 more than the dealers labor cost to do the same job.  the price had no relation to the price of very simular standard tools, but was consistant with the labor cost.

so that when faced with what should be a fairly simple job, it's actually cheaper to just pay the shop to do it.

so the end result was my car was fairly affordable to buy, but they make all their money back on repair or tool sale.

btw- I read a story on one of the new Volvos coming out.  it doesn't have a hood.  aparently the it's only designed to be accessed at a service center.
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: pugg666 on April 25, 2004, 12:50:01 PM
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Have you tried to change the plugs on ANY V-8 built since 1990? Granted there have been vast improvements in engine design (serpentine belts, ect) that have cleaned up the looks, but they managed to make some simple projects like changing a timing belt and made them like building a nuclear reactor. The idea behind this is to eliminate the ability to repair outside of a Factory Authorized repair facility. It's not far from happening either.


Tell me about it. On my old 91 accord it took about 5 minutes to change the plugs, every thing was in plain sight, all you had to do was unplug em then unscrew em.

this is the engine in my new car, can't even change the plugs with out taking parts of the damned thing
(http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421478392/6.jpg)
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: lazs2 on April 25, 2004, 01:38:09 PM
I don't believe I have ever changed a "timing belt' on a V8.

lazs
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: storch on April 25, 2004, 02:12:28 PM
It's their way at getting even with us (collectively speaking) for all the times that we picked on/humiliated them in highschool.  They just knew that us lowbrows would be working on our cars.  I can see the evil grin now.
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: AdmRose on April 25, 2004, 06:40:47 PM
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Originally posted by pugg666
Tell me about it. On my old 91 accord it took about 5 minutes to change the plugs, every thing was in plain sight, all you had to do was unplug em then unscrew em.

this is the engine in my new car, can't even change the plugs with out taking parts of the damned thing
(http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421478392/6.jpg)


Thats an engine out of a '99 Grand Am, I have the same thing and I praise GM for making an engine with an easy to access oil filter.
Title: Re: Big hands are a pain
Post by: Ripsnort on April 25, 2004, 07:18:33 PM
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Originally posted by medicboy
I was doing the 60,000 mile service on my 4-runner today and decided that whoever designed the engine layout had very small hands.  Im 6'3", 210lbs, and have size 13 feet.  xl gloves are too small for me, so needless to say I don't have any skin left on my knuckles.....:(

And why the he!! do you have to take most of the intake system off to get to the spark plugs???????????????????????????????


You have my curiousity up now, I just measure my hand spread, 9" from the base of the palm to the tip of my middle finger.
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: pugg666 on April 26, 2004, 09:31:13 AM
AdmRose, same engine, only it's from a Sunfire GT.
Title: Re: Re: Big hands are a pain
Post by: medicboy on April 27, 2004, 12:55:54 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
You have my curiousity up now, I just measure my hand spread, 9" from the base of the palm to the tip of my middle finger.


8 3/4" and wedding ring is 13 1/2. (ring size)
Title: Re: Big hands are a pain
Post by: gofaster on April 27, 2004, 03:23:34 PM
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Originally posted by medicboy
I was doing the 60,000 mile service on my 4-runner today and decided that whoever designed the engine layout had very small hands.  


You do the belts yet?  Its not so bad but getting the belts around all of the pulleys can be a trick - not much needed to tighten'em up!  Just remember to tighten all of the fan blade bolts when you're done.

The 4-runner engine bay had more room than my old '93 Civic bay did.
Title: Big hands are a pain
Post by: 2stony on April 27, 2004, 03:31:30 PM
That's nothing medicboy, my doctor has "huge" hands and I have to get a physical from him once a year.

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