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Title: Unbelivable!!! Famous hollywood director makes pro-fascist documentary...
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 24, 2004, 07:53:56 PM
look here (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ACCD4C92-378E-40C6-A4DF-CA2F2F8E498F.htm)

Reelly unbelivable considering what happened in recent history....
Title: Unbelivable!!! Famous hollywood director makes pro-fascist documentary...
Post by: ravells on April 24, 2004, 07:59:29 PM
Grunz, how's it going?

Ravs
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 24, 2004, 08:01:38 PM
Good, urself?
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Post by: ravells on April 24, 2004, 08:02:56 PM
tired.

ravs
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Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on April 24, 2004, 08:10:27 PM
Stone is a freaking moron who sees black helicopters and such (there's a conspiracy behind everything), you were expecting better from him?
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Post by: Otto on April 24, 2004, 08:36:21 PM
You are right on point.    The far left are the Nazis of our day.
Title: Oliver Stone(ed)
Post by: 1wingnutone on April 24, 2004, 08:36:57 PM
I think Mr. Stone(ed) took too many acid trips
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Post by: DiabloTX on April 24, 2004, 08:46:03 PM
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Castro said he had no intention of stepping down after 45 years in power. "I am not the one in power. It is the people who are in power," he claimed.


Oh....really?
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Post by: rpm on April 24, 2004, 08:57:02 PM
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Originally posted by Otto
You are right on point.    The far left are the Nazis of our day.

I believe you mean far RIGHT. The far left would be living in a commune spreading free love.
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 24, 2004, 08:59:42 PM
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Originally posted by rpm371
The far left would be living in a commune spreading free love.


:rofl

Castro's prisons are communes to you?
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Post by: DiabloTX on April 24, 2004, 09:00:47 PM
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Originally posted by rpm371
I believe you mean far RIGHT. The far left would be living in a commune spreading free love.


Yup.  And the terrorists would have taken the US all the way to the Mississippi while you were spreading love in 'frisco.  :aok
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Post by: rpm on April 24, 2004, 09:14:43 PM
Castro started out Left (People's revolution and such) and went FAR Right (dictatorship,police state).
Don't hate me because I'm liberal, hate me because I'm correct.

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Yup. And the terrorists would have taken the US all the way to the Mississippi while you were spreading love in 'frisco.


Diablo, just so you know...I'm a Vet that VOLUNTEERED for service. The discussion is about Cuba not the USA, dip****.
I swear some of you guys are just plain rabid.
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Post by: DiabloTX on April 24, 2004, 09:22:08 PM
Heh, typical Leftie...can't make up his mind.

Well, to your service.  I am still in the service and have volunteered twice for active recall.

Get over yourself rpm, my posts here aren't to be taken as serious as you're taking them.  So, STFU please...
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Post by: rpm on April 24, 2004, 09:24:03 PM
  to you for your service.

for your opinion.
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Post by: DiabloTX on April 24, 2004, 09:25:42 PM
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Originally posted by rpm371
  to you for your service.

for your opinion.



Fair enough.
Title: Unbelivable!!! Famous hollywood director makes pro-fascist documentary...
Post by: rpm on April 24, 2004, 09:27:29 PM
Deal.
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Post by: AKIron on April 24, 2004, 10:10:23 PM
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Originally posted by rpm371
I believe you mean far RIGHT. The far left would be living in a commune spreading free love.


The far left would be demanding that everyone join their commune.
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Post by: Saurdaukar on April 24, 2004, 11:40:28 PM
Right before they passed a law making it illegal not to be a member of a commune.

Remember, AK... we cant think for ourselves.
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Post by: Sixpence on April 24, 2004, 11:44:56 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Yup.  And the terrorists would have taken the US all the way to the Mississippi while you were spreading love in 'frisco.  :aok


In their black helicopters.

BTW, you guys are giving this guy way too much publicity.
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Post by: Duedel on April 25, 2004, 02:54:02 AM
Yawn, is this the weekly communists = fascists troll Grunherz?
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Post by: Steve on April 25, 2004, 03:04:14 AM
rpm.. thanks for serving  
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Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on April 25, 2004, 03:54:52 AM
Somone skipped Polsci 101 I see.....
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Post by: Leslie on April 25, 2004, 04:55:21 AM
Haven't seen this one of Stone's movies.  Not a big fan of Stone,  though I did watch his series about JFK.  Conspiracy theory.  I don't know about the movie, but the idea of a conspiracy seems plausable.

LOL, I remember one time my dad and my brother and I were riding in the car, and dad and my brother started talking about the movie.  My dad played devil's advocate and said he thought the idea of a conspiracy was probably what happened.  My brother was saying, no, that's not what happened, the whole conspiracy idea was bunko.  I kept out of it for the most part, though I tended to side with my dad.

Then again, I've heard them argue about what shortwave antenna recieves the best signal.  My dad said vertical 100' tower, and my brother said an antenna on a 30 degree slope to a 100' tower.  

Interesting opinions from both, and who knows which is right?




Les
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Post by: lazs2 on April 25, 2004, 09:10:01 AM
wait... left wing governments arent totalitarian?

lazs
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Post by: Leslie on April 25, 2004, 09:34:46 AM
Don't know about totalitarian governments.  I live by myself, so I guess that makes me totalitarian, king, dictator and sheriff of my house.  I hope I do a good job.




Les
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Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on April 25, 2004, 09:45:50 AM
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Originally posted by rpm371
I believe you mean far RIGHT. The far left would be living in a commune spreading free love.


More like spreading HIV, considering they don't believe it fair or smart to quarantine people with deadly diseases. Not a real smart group, that bunch.
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Post by: Ripsnort on April 25, 2004, 10:40:38 AM
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Originally posted by rpm371
I believe you mean far RIGHT. The far left would be living in a commune spreading free love.


Facism is neither left nor right.....
facism is capitalism in decay...
facism is like a threatening shadow which doesn’t stay motionless at our backs....
facism is the term applied to the style of totalitarian government under hitler in germany and under mussolini in italy....
facism is a term thrown about too freely....
facism is generally characterized as a reactionary philosophy...
facism is to burn the books...
facism is the result of extreme conservative politics and communism that of extreme liberal thought...
facism is about bigoted...
facism is not a form of government...

"{Facism} is a political system nominally controlled by an irresponsible, dumbed down electorate who are manipulated by dishonest, cynical, controlled mass media that dispense the propaganda of a corrupt political establishment and can hardly be described as democracy either." --Edward Zehr

"Communism and fascism or nazism, although poles apart in their intellectual content, are similar in this, that both have emotional appeal to the type of personality that takes pleasure in being submerged in a mass movement and submitting to superior authority."--James A.C. Brown
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Post by: Momus-- on April 25, 2004, 10:58:51 AM
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"{Facism} is a political system nominally controlled by an irresponsible, dumbed down electorate who are manipulated by dishonest, cynical, controlled mass media that dispense the propaganda of a corrupt political establishment and can hardly be described as democracy either."


Sounds familiar doesn't it Rip? :lol
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Post by: Ripsnort on April 25, 2004, 11:01:43 AM
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Originally posted by Momus--
Sounds familiar doesn't it Rip? :lol


Yes, for 8 years of putting up in the Clinton regrime, sounds very familiar :lol

Its how an individual perceives it...you obviously perceive it differently than I, as I believe the press is slanted left.

And incidently, "electorate" means you, the voter.
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Post by: Momus-- on April 25, 2004, 11:06:58 AM
The fact that you think there's really any fundamental difference between GWB and Clinton says a lot.

The fact you've bought the whole "liberal" media myth says a lot too.

I'm not a member of the dumbed-down US electorate so your point missed the mark somewhat :p
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Post by: Ripsnort on April 25, 2004, 11:08:44 AM
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Originally posted by Momus--

I'm not a member of the dumbed-down US electorate so your point missed the mark somewhat :p


So why even comment (other than personal satisfaction or trolling)? Its not like your opinion carrys any weight if you're not a U.S. voter.
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Post by: Capt. Pork on April 25, 2004, 11:14:23 AM
Stone went down the gutter after Wallstreet.
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Post by: Saurdaukar on April 25, 2004, 11:53:48 AM
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Originally posted by Momus--


The fact you've bought the whole "liberal" media myth says a lot too.


Refering to it as a 'myth' says slightly more.
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 25, 2004, 12:18:21 PM
Stil long for the DDR eh Duedel?
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Post by: rpm on April 25, 2004, 12:25:55 PM
Gee Rip, you sure seem to have suffered during the Clinton Administration. Sorry you could'nt afford better carpet for your Beemer to park on.
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Post by: 1wingnutone on April 25, 2004, 12:44:48 PM
Democrats,Republicans,Liberals,Conservatives,they all have the same agenda and that is getting their hands on as much money as they can to finace the next bid to get elected so they can get their hands on some more money.

And here`s a news flash for all you Clinton bashers.....he didn`t do anything that damn near every Pres did before him...he just got caught....And no one would have known about that if that fat ugly Linda Tripp had kept her piehole shut.If those oxygen thiefs that like to refer to themselves as journalists spent as much time on real news as they do on poking their nose into the personal lives of people we might get some decent, qualified Americans to run for public office.Unfortunatly the media and the opposition is more interested in muckracking than issues.
 Of course it is a lot easier to base a campaign on the faults of others than it is to base it on the qualifications of themselves.
 The only thing the "news" people are interested in is selling more advertising space and nothing sells better than sex and scandal.

And that leads us back to the driving force .......GREED
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Post by: Ripsnort on April 25, 2004, 02:30:06 PM
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Originally posted by 1wingnutone

And here`s a news flash for all you Clinton bashers.....he didn`t do anything that damn near every Pres did before him...he just got caught....And no one would have known about that if that fat ugly Linda Tripp had kept her piehole shut.If those oxygen thiefs that like to refer to themselves as journalists spent as much time on real news as they do on poking their nose into the personal lives of people we might get some decent, qualified Americans to run for public office.Unfortunatly the media and the opposition is more interested in muckracking than issues.
 


News flash, no one cared if Clinton was cheating on his wife in the confines of a taxpayers building..., but LYING to a federal grand jury just happens to rub tax payers the wrong way.
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Post by: Sixpence on April 25, 2004, 02:39:17 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
News flash, no one cared if Clinton was cheating on his wife in the confines of a taxpayers building..., but LYING to a federal grand jury just happens to rub tax payers the wrong way.


Here's a scenario for ya, let's say that Bush Sr wins a second term, then Clinton wins following that. In his second term, the lewinsky thing happens and he lies to a grand jury, but still remains president. Now 9/11 happens, and seeming he tried to drum up support to do something about saddam before, he takes the same action as Bush jr is taking now. If you thought Bush was lying about WMD, how in God's name could you believe Clinton?

Let you or I lie to a grand jury, see what happens to us.

And what makes it even more stupid is all he had to do was tell the truth, he couldn't win a third term. But I guess truth and politicians don't mix.
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 25, 2004, 02:50:07 PM
Well WMD thing could be based on bad inbtelligence, certainly everyone in the US government thought Saddam had WMD. Do we even need to post quotes from people in both major parities? Or were they all lying to justify an invasion or the constant bombing and sancxtions aainst iraq up to the 2003 war?  Cuz If ur stance is that Bush lied about WMD then the whole US government and even the UN lied right up to the 20003 war..

However the Clinton Lewisnsky thing was an outright indisputable and deliberate lie under oath in fromt of a grand jury. Unless of course you are saying that Bill Clinton had bad intelligence as to who he was having sex with?

Now while I personally dont think Bill Clinton should have been put into a position where he would have to answer such questions, it was he who chose to lie and that was a crime and thats what got him into trouble.
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Post by: Sixpence on April 25, 2004, 03:17:37 PM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
the UN lied right up to the 20003 war..


Lol, I believe it.