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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Yeager on April 26, 2004, 01:26:05 PM
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Jihadists on rise in Europe
PATRICK E. TYLER AND DON VAN NATTA JR.; The New York Times
LUTON, England - The call to jihad is rising in the streets of Europe, and is being answered, counterterrorism officials say.
In this former industrial town north of London, several young Britons whose parents emigrated from Pakistan after World War II have turned against their families' new home. They say they would like to see Prime Minister Tony Blair dead or deposed and an Islamic flag hanging outside No. 10 Downing St.
They swear allegiance to Osama bin Laden and his goal of toppling Western democracies to establish an Islamic superstate under Shariah law, like Afghanistan under the Taliban. They call the Sept. 11 hijackers the "Magnificent 19" and regard the train bombings in Madrid, Spain, as a clever way to drive a wedge into Europe.
On Thursday evening, at a tennis center community hall in Slough, west of London, their leader, Sheik Omar Bakri Mohammad, spoke of his loyalty to bin Laden. If Europe fails to heed bin Laden's offer of a truce - provided that all foreign troops be withdrawn from Iraq in three months - Muslims will no longer be restrained from attacking the Western countries that host them, Mohammad said.
"All Muslims of the West will be obliged," he said, to "become his sword" in a new battle. Europeans should take heed, he added, saying, "It is foolish to fight people who want death - that is what they are looking for."
On working-class streets of old industrial cities like Crawley, Luton, Birmingham and Manchester, and in the Arab enclaves of Germany, France, Switzerland and other parts of Europe, intelligence officials say a fervor for militancy is intensifying and becoming more open.
In Hamburg, Mustafa Yoldas, the director of the Council of Islamic Communities, saw a correlation to the discord in Iraq.
"This is a very dangerous situation at the moment," Yoldas said. "My impression is that Muslims have become more and more angry against the United States."
Hundreds of young Muslim men are answering the call of extremists into groups affiliated or aligned with al-Qaida, intelligence and counterterrorism officials in the region say.
Even more worrying, said a senior British counterterrorism official, is that the level of "chatter" - communications among suspected terrorist figures and their supporters - has markedly increased since bin Laden's warning to Europe this month. The spike in chatter has given rise to acute worries that planning is advanced toward another strike in Europe.
Stoking that anger are some of the same Islamic clerics who preached violence and martyrdom before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
Mainstream Muslims are outraged by the situation, saying the actions of a few are causing their communities to be singled out for surveillance and making the larger, non-Muslim population distrust them.
Muhammad Sulaiman, a stalwart of the mainstream Central Mosque in Luton, was penniless when he arrived from the Kashmiri frontier of Pakistan in 1956. He raised money to build the Central Mosque and now leads a campaign to ban Al Muhajiroun radicals from the city's 10 mosques.
"This is show-off business," he says in accented English. "I don't want these kids in my mosque."
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What to do?
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They swear allegiance to Osama bin Laden and his goal of toppling Western democracies to establish an Islamic superstate under Shariah law, like Afghanistan under the Taliban. They call the Sept. 11 hijackers the "Magnificent 19" and regard the train bombings in Madrid, Spain, as a clever way to drive a wedge into Europe.
On Thursday evening, at a tennis center community hall in Slough, west of London, their leader, Sheik Omar Bakri Mohammad, spoke of his loyalty to bin Laden. If Europe fails to heed bin Laden's offer of a truce - provided that all foreign troops be withdrawn from Iraq in three months - Muslims will no longer be restrained from attacking the Western countries that host them, Mohammad said.
"All Muslims of the West will be obliged," he said, to "become his sword" in a new battle. Europeans should take heed, he added, saying, "It is foolish to fight people who want death - that is what they are looking for."
Round 'em up, lock them up and throw away the key. Or maybe deport them to their beloved lands.
Either way when someone comes out and threatens war against their "host" country or government, they need to be delt with, before they can act.
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Shoot them it's cheaper. Swear allegiance to Bin Laden, collect an intracranial projectile at over 2400 FPS.
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you guys making the terrorist factor even stronger, It is ridiculous to give them this much attention, they are a small group of morons (dangerous too) but they dont deserve that much attention.
It just make them stronger.
Just somthimes (and only somthimes )they are able to give us small drawbacks, but the more newspaper time they get the more newshungry they get. (and more power among the people living in powerty camps with no hope for a decent job)
Let the goverments deal with them silently and strongly, then we can get on with other problems that mabye concerns us more.
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Originally posted by Steve
Shoot them it's cheaper. Swear allegiance to Bin Laden, collect an intracranial projectile at over 2400 FPS.
im not sure whats cheaper
vulch Iraq or widraft from ME ?
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widraft from ME
I can't answer this.. I'm not even sure what language it is. :)
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Mbirdcz call it orelish.
its crappy form of english :)
it were supposed to be "leave" .. can not find how to write it properly
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Damn I should have read the whole thread title "London Calling" thought you were talking about the Clash.
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i hate luton, POS that it is. Place should be nuked.
(tune: Que Será Será )
Luton Scum
When I was just a little boy,
I asked my mother, what will I be?
Will I be Watford or Luton Town?
Here's what she said to me......
Wash your mouth out son,
Go get your fathers gun,
And shoot some Luton Scum,
Shoot some Luton Scum...
We hate Luton, you stinky gypos!
F* Luton.
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Back to Arsenal!
I was thinking about this today. I reckon the security people prefer it if they know who the mouthpieces are and more importantly where they are so they can keep tabs on them, tap their phones, email etc. - infiltrate them, and get intelligence on any planned terror acts.
Was it Sun Tzu who said - "Keep you friends close, your enemies closer"
Ravs
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spike their drinks when they are in the bars, take them to a little surgery room, put gps beacons in their ballsacks, release them back into the street then charge them with some stupid crime, deport their tulips back to whatever islamic nation they came from.
when many gps blips congregate in the middle of the desert away from populated areas, drop them a cruise a missile.
damn im a GENIOUS. :aok
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Originally posted by OIO
spike their drinks when they are in the bars, take them to a little surgery room, put gps beacons in their ballsacks, release them back into the street then charge them with some stupid crime, deport their tulips back to whatever islamic nation they came from.
when many gps blips congregate in the middle of the desert away from populated areas, drop them a cruise a missile.
damn im a GENIOUS. :aok
Probably wouldn't work too well without devout muslims: they are not allowed to drink.
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yeah right, and catholic priests aint supposed to have sex.
and YOU!. yes YOU! HANDS OFF THE STICK! YOU WILL GO BLIND! ;)
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Islamic fundamentalists in the UK is nothing new. Only now they make the headlines more often.
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Dowding - I heard a rumour that Muslim women were to be exempted from having to have their photo on the proposed ID cards - have you heard anything?
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Originally posted by ravells
Was it Sun Tzu who said - "Keep you friends close, your enemies closer"
Vito Andolini, aka, Vito Corleone, aka, da Godfather as told to his son Michael Corleone.
Now, let me make you an offer you canna refuse...
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How does that differs about clan members, neo-nazies and skinheads preaching about white supremacy and "taking trash out" ?
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Originally posted by beet1e
Dowding - I heard a rumour that Muslim women were to be exempted from having to have their photo on the proposed ID cards - have you heard anything?
Happened here. Some woman got furious that she had to remove her face cover for a driver ID.
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"Round 'em up, lock them up and throw away the key. Or maybe deport them to their beloved lands.
Either way when someone comes out and threatens war against their "host" country or government, they need to be delt with, before they can act."
Sort of second that. When a civilian of a country, originating from elsewhere declares war on its own host, - he or she should be shipped out.
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Originally posted by ravells
Was it Sun Tzu who said - "Keep you friends close, your enemies closer"
Vito Corleone--as quoted my Michael in 2
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
Vito Corleone--as quoted my Michael in 2
True 'nuff but the phrase is early than that - it may even be an arab proverb.
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
Vito Corleone--as quoted my Michael in 2
HOLY REPEATED POST BATMAN!!!!!!!