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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: strk on April 26, 2004, 01:26:27 PM
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Real footage from swift boats in Vietnam.
http://www.moveon.org/pac/warrecord/
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Damn its too bad Kerry turned out to be such a tool.
With his record of service he could have done great things.
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They show one picture of a swift boat. The rest of the action shots are PBRs and Monitors, of course the hippes wouldnt notice the difference...
Nice to see the insults against reservists and pilots as well...
However the left's new obsession with honorable Vietnam service IS touching...
I think they (currently) agree witrh Kerry VietStance TM v3.0 where no atrocities wrere commited and he was a hero...
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Bahahaha, what a slam dunk for the Muddy Mud Skipper.
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I read his service record of the incident discussed in that ad. Perhaps the ad-maker should have read it too, since it bears no relationship to what actually happened.
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moveon
where they were showing Bush as hitler .. yeah, they carry alot of credibility to anyone with half a brain not burn out
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Originally posted by Eagler
moveon
where they were showing Bush as hitler .. yeah, they carry alot of credibility to anyone with half a brain not burn out
that wasnt done by Moveon - it was SUBMITTED to Moveon.
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DONT YOU KNOW THAT KERRY IS A WAR HERO AND WE ARE NOT ALLOUD TO CRITISCISE ANYTHING HE DOES>......GEESH you 'd think you guys would have learned by now.
I must still point out the irony in all this.
The leftist hippies who protested the war way back in the day are now bashing bush for not going and praising kerry for his service!
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Originally posted by strk
that wasnt done by Moveon - it was SUBMITTED to Moveon.
they aired it
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Originally posted by Eagler
they aired it
they still arnt responsible......Libral hand book Pg 5
"when somone is saying something you don't agree with but can't prove wrong attack the method of delivery and completly ignore the content. If that doesnt work call them a Nazi"
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
They show one picture of a swift boat. The rest of the action shots are PBRs and Monitors, of course the hippes wouldnt notice the difference...
Nice to see the insults against reservists and pilots as well...
However the left's new obsession with honorable Vietnam service IS touching...
I think they (currently) agree witrh Kerry VietStance TM v3.0 where no atrocities wrere commited and he was a hero...
I think it is funny that you think the RW has the high ground with military service and Vietnam in particular. Lessee - What branch did Cheney serve in? Tom DeLay? I think Pat Buchanan had a bad knee! that's ok. ANd poor Rush - with his ingrown hair cyst - how could HE be expected to serve. Lets not forget Bill OReilly. Rummy wasn't flying in Nam but he DID fly jets for 3 years in the 50's. Bush* had the champagne squadron. AM I forgetting any?
Can anyone think of one vietnam aged prominent Republican who actually served in Vietnam? Im sure there must be at least a couple but I can't think of any now. So let's hear it - let me have it.
Yet these are the guys who want to go to war so bad they had to make up WMD evidence. That is why they are called CHICKENHAWKS
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Originally posted by strk
AM I forgetting any?
Clinton?
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Colin Powell...
My my how the left loves the Vietnam war now!!!!! Tell me something though where was this passion for defending South Vietnam from communist agression when Bill Clinton was in office a few years ago?
Did it maybe have anything to do with the fact that Bill Clinton spent time as a student in the Soviet Union during the Vietnam war?
Nah that couldn't be it, could it? :rolleyes:
And yea go ahead and bash the reservists some more...
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Since the left now loves the Vietnam war so much here is Kerry's perfect running mate...
(http://history.acusd.edu/gen/20th/RN/USPics5/79472av.jpg)
:rolleyes:
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did anyone catch the interview of the guy who replaced mini-jfk when he went stateside after 3 months of a 12 month tour of duty because of his " war wounds"?
he did not have anything good to say about scary kerry. he said the majority of the outfit felt the same way he did about mini jfk. a politicain in a military uniform, at least long enough to get a few "ribbons" to throw over the fence ...
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Colin Powell...
My my how the left loves the Vietnam war now!!!!! Tell me something though where was this passion for defending South Vietnam from communist agression when Bill Clinton was in office a few years ago?
Did it maybe have anything to do with the fact that Bill Clinton spent time as a student in the Soviet Union during the Vietnam war?
Nah that couldn't be it, could it? :rolleyes:
And yea go ahead and bash the reservists some more...
yes Powell - thank you.
The point is not so much the service as the hypocrisy of those who refused to serve yet SEEK war for others to fight. over oil no less.
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Round and round she goes! Where she'll stop, nobody knows!
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And Powell was the one guy who thought better of going into Iraq.
Anyhoo...
Sounds like Mark Knopfler on guitar in that ad. A knockoff? Or does anyone recognize the song?
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Originally posted by strk
yes Powell - thank you.
The point is not so much the service as the hypocrisy of those who refused to serve yet SEEK war for others to fight. over oil no less.
NO WAR FOR OIL!!!!! We are rampantly stealing Iraq oil, gas prices have never been lower we are staling so much.....
You do know many lefties even considered the 911 war a war for oil, so evil boogeyman halliburton could build a pipeline through Afghanistan...
Were, then, the calls for war after 911 also the cries of CHICKENHWAKS?
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Didn't even notice first time, but yeah... sounds like Knopfler... don't recognize the song though.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
NO WAR FOR OIL!!!!! We are rampantly stealing Iraq oil, gas prices have never been lower we are staling so much.....
You do know many lefties even considered the 911 war a war for oil, so evil boogeyman halliburton could build a pipeline through Afghanistan...
Were, then, the calls for war after 911 also the cries of CHICKENHWAKS?
The Taliban had to go. personally I believe in war for defense only. America shouldnt be starting wars for any other reason that defending ourselves. The price is far too high. Bush*co made Iraq seem as if we needed to because Saddam had WMD. Well things were not as the president led us to believe, turns out the evidence was weak all along. Inexcusable.
you hit on a good point there - where the hell is the Iraqi oil going? They were producing before the war and we still need to give Iraq 20 billion for their infrastructure? Before the war Cheney and Rummy said that Iraqi oil would pay to rebuild the country. I have a suspicion that when it is all said and done we will learn that someone has been stealing a lot of Iraqi oil.
I have never heard of the pipeline through Afghanistan at the lefty meetings.
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Ordinarily when I meet someone with the service record of John Kerry (and Ive met more than a few), I drop to my knees and grovel in his shadow. Its what Kerry did when he came back, and Im not bitter about it, its just that so much harm was done to his military service by his anti war stance that it totally negates and in fact subtracts from his heroics on the battle field. And yes! Bush is a goofy tard in my opinion, but he is running for re-election on 4 relatively successfull years experience as President, not for his supposed absence in Alabama whereas Kerry is running on his extreme liberal senate record and his military service, or disservice during and right after VNam.
Do not get me wrong, JKerry has every right to throw his medals, or someone elses, away as a protest. God be with him -but if he thinks he can run for president and gain some statute as a hero by throwing his medals away then he is sadly mistaken, in my view.
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I watched the video and was impressed with their impartiality... All they did was present the facts as they are. Why the whining?
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Originally posted by Airhead
I watched the video and was impressed with their impartiality...
ROFL!!!
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Welcome to the wonderful world of politics, if the roles were reversed it would be the same. Show the film of Dukakis in the tank again, that's always a hoot.
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Originally posted by strk
The Taliban had to go. personally I believe in war for defense only. America shouldnt be starting wars for any other reason that defending ourselves. The price is far too high. Bush*co made Iraq seem as if we needed to because Saddam had WMD. Well things were not as the president led us to believe, turns out the evidence was weak all along. Inexcusable.
you hit on a good point there - where the hell is the Iraqi oil going? They were producing before the war and we still need to give Iraq 20 billion for their infrastructure? Before the war Cheney and Rummy said that Iraqi oil would pay to rebuild the country. I have a suspicion that when it is all said and done we will learn that someone has been stealing a lot of Iraqi oil.
I have never heard of the pipeline through Afghanistan at the lefty meetings.
911 was not in self defense you fool!!! The terrorist hijackers were LIES!!!!! There were bobs in the WTC towers!!
Man get with the times... :)
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Huh?
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Originally posted by Nash
Huh?
You missed the WTC bomb discussions ha? :D
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You mean the ones about some mysterious building number 7 and some timing issues etc.? I saw that.... Way too much math involved. If I'm going to buy a conspiracy theory then the authors better keep it damn simple and throw up a couple of pics of green aliens while they're at it. Or at least some shape moving across the left wing or whatever.
The reason I asked "huh?" is... What does what you just said have to do with anything?
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He was saying that he supported 911 war because it was self defense after the terror attacks...
I merely pointed out that there are people who would dispute even that...
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Oh, well in that case, thanks for the extraordinary heads-up.
So then, there are people who dispute even that. Incredible. I would never have guessed.
That it wasn't exactly said here is beside the point. It COULD have been said. We are indebted to your comedic vigilance.
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Good ad Strk.. thx for posting it.
What a contrast between the characters of both men. One man stood up and served his country, then came home and tried to end what he believed was an immoral war. After that he went on to be elected to Congress. The other guy.. he stay drunk for 23 years.
What Moveon could’ve added was the notation on the applications of both men.. Bush checked off no.. he did not want to serve in Nam.. Kerry checked off yes.. he would volunteer for service in Viet Nam. That’s very telling.
What galls me is this administration pattern of denigrating the character of veterans. They did it to John McCain, Max Cleland and now John Kerry. And with the exception of Powell, not one of the president’s lieutenants ever even served in uniform, much less combat. And they’re going to question the service record of a guy from thirty years ago?
For the life of me I can’t understand what you guys see in Dubya.. Must be a tribal thing.. I swear if Bush shot a guy dead in the oval office.. y’all would say “thank God our wonderful president (and his lovely family) was able to shoot that terrorist in time”
How does one go about defending Bush’s record?.. the loss of two million jobs, a half a trillion dollar deficit, manipulating intelligence to get us into a war... not out of a war... into one on purpose?... The answer of course is you can’t.. All you can do is define the other guy as being even worse than our guy. If that’s even possible.
Strk.. did you mention Tom Delay?... Tom’s excuse was.. he really wanted to serve, but the minorities took up all the slots.
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Someone pull my finger please:D
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Originally posted by 10Bears
All you can do is define the other guy as being even worse than our guy.
Pretty much.
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