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Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: BGBMAW on April 26, 2004, 06:34:32 PM
Going to Sandiego-BahaArea I think to fish for Big fish..
any1 here experienced down there?
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Steve on April 26, 2004, 06:41:41 PM
I'm not BGB but wanted to stop by and wish ya luck!
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: rabbidrabbit on April 26, 2004, 06:52:40 PM
If you go a bit south to Cabo San Lucas you will not be disapointed..  Don't know about San Diego though.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Nash on April 26, 2004, 06:57:06 PM
I was out fly fishing both days this weekend. Hope ya have better luck than I did. :)

Going back out this eve... It's personal now.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Curval on April 26, 2004, 07:04:17 PM
Can't do it (Deep sea fishing).  Much vomiting.

Done it before...5 times.  Each time was a new experience in hell.

Vomit Vomit Vomit

You know, if you discovered that your enemy was prone to seasickness and you needed him to talk, all you gotta do is put him on a boat and let him float.  He'll talk...oh yes, he'll talk.  ;)

It is fun catching some big fish though.  I've seen Wahoo and sharks each go after a fish that had already been caught (and baited with a fish) that was being hauled in.  It is a real life lesson in the "food chain" when you pull in half of a large tuna or porgy.

If that damn boat would just stop messing with my inner ear I'd love it.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Lizking on April 26, 2004, 07:12:34 PM
Must be hell to live on a little Island and get sea-sick.  All my fishing is Atlantic/gulfcoast, but I have done some Pacific in Mexico and Guatemala.

Are you chartering?
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Sixpence on April 26, 2004, 07:16:18 PM
I remember talking about this with someone I worked with years ago, I think it was tuna fishing, not sure. Anyway , he said that some let you keep the fish but others keep the fish you catch, not sure though, I could be way off.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Curval on April 26, 2004, 07:22:36 PM
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Originally posted by Lizking
Must be hell to live on a little Island and get sea-sick.  


It is only offshore that I get sick.  I lose sight of land I start hurling about an hour or two later.

Other than that I am good.

I lead a normal, healthy, active aquatic lifestyle.  :)
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Nash on April 26, 2004, 07:26:03 PM
Trick to fighting off sea sickness. Keep your eyes glued to the horizon and concentrate on thinking about green apples.

Don't ask me why... but it works.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Curval on April 26, 2004, 07:33:02 PM
..and you are supposed to do this and fish and be somewhat social all at the same time all day?  Not possible.  I understand why people say it would work but you have to stay rivited on the horizon for it to work.

Once the sickness starts there is no stopping it.  Your inner ear loses it's balance and the constant motion of the boat keeps it out of whack.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Nash on April 26, 2004, 07:37:05 PM
Well...

Once sea sickness sets in - you're done for the day. When I was a kid my holidays consisted of weeks/months on a sailboat. I didn't really ever get sea sick. But when we took company out and they got it, it became about maintainance. Yeah, fishing and everything else is over... the trick is in not having to return to shore immediately on account of them.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Curval on April 26, 2004, 07:48:06 PM
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Originally posted by Nash
Yeah, fishing and everything else is over... the trick is in not having to return to shore immediately on account of them.


EXACTLY correct.

Chartering a fishing boat isn't cheap though, by any streach.  No amount of vomitting by one person is getting that boat to turn around, I'm afraid.

This is why I use the term "hell" to describe the experience.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Kanth on April 26, 2004, 07:49:02 PM
Dramamine really does help.

I've had some friends go down there for tuna fishing and had a great time, I've never been down there personally.

I have fished off of Catalina on overnight trips many times, it's fun but it's not deep sea fishing.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Nash on April 26, 2004, 07:54:02 PM
Rgr that Curval.

I don't know how often you've seen it, but I've always been kind of blown away that almost invariably, the puke from a sea sick person is a real liquidy greenish yellow. Taking all the usual contributors into consideration, it still doesn't account for it.

Uhm...

yeah...  :)
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Lizking on April 26, 2004, 08:08:12 PM
When I was running charters, it was pretty much a set pattern:

The party would arrive the night before, get drunker than Cooter Brown, arrive at the dock late and hungover, eat a bunch of sweet crap and slam some soft drinks.  It never surpised me they were puking before we cleared the jetties.

Here is how you can go offshore and not get sick:

Don't try and drink until 3:00 am when the boat is leaving at 6:00AM.

Don't drink or eat anything sweet; eat a rib-sticking breakfast like bisquits, gravy and ham(eggs are not a good thing either), or a couple of breakfast tacos.

Do not go below.  Stay on deck, as near to the center of the boat as possible, the bridge is the best place, if there is room.

Do not crack a beer at 6:30.  Our suggestion/boat rule was no beer till the first fish is on the boat or 11:00AM, which ever happens first.

Stay busy!  Do something, anything, except for reading.

Sea-sickness medications work by making you sleep.  Save yourself a thousand bucks if you want to sleep and stay at the hotel.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Curval on April 26, 2004, 08:17:32 PM
Naughty evil wicked Kanth.



Away with thee vile temptress!

It's just that kind of talk that pursuaded me to go FIVE times.  I tried dramamine...I tried 3 or 4 different medicine man, old wives tale remedy "...mines".  I even wore a patch behind my ear on one occasion which was supposed to balance my inner ear out.  I thanked very much the person who recommended that "cure" which resulted in about 6 or 7 hours of vomiting.

Nash is right.  The colour he is referring to is bile.  Starts out pretty yellow (once of course you have completely emptied your stomach of  food matter...orally) then darkens, sometimes a green hue, sometimes black, the more you puke.  There's no alcohol involved, nothing that can possibly make you feel better when you get similarly sick from booze.  You just simply squeeze the very essense out of your stomach's bile sac and empty the mess into the ocean through your mouth...over and over again.

My wife wants me to do a cruise with her.  I'm worried that I will pay alot of money to feel this way again.

Perhaps you can understand my aprehension now.  ;)


Turns the crossed arms towards Lizking......
"You too foul demon...back...back I say"
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Nash on April 26, 2004, 08:29:00 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
You just simply squeeze the very essense out of your stomach's bile sac and empty the mess into the ocean through your mouth...over and over again.


lmfAo!

Nailed it.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Thorns on April 26, 2004, 09:06:23 PM
Get the wrist bands.  They work!

Thorns
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: urbMAW on April 27, 2004, 03:40:24 PM
crap...

i had that feeling...I was on a whale watching trip....sik as hell..but my parents told me i was too young for ..the pacth..


aholes...



but now its 15 years later...I have not been in big swells since..


Are you guys telling me Dramamine doesnt work?

but I guess Kanth says "friends" worked...hmmm


Really was trying to geet a good bachelor party trip..

I was pointed out we could take 8 guys at about $2,000. full catered overnight fishing...

hmmmm

and LizKing..ya i was figuring on telling the boys to not get hammered the first night...thnk u:)

Banned by Demand

BiGB
xoxo
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: storch on April 27, 2004, 03:43:43 PM
will you be drift fishing or trolling?
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: urbMAW on April 27, 2004, 03:58:00 PM
i have no idea yet..just really stikn the pole out there and seeing what looks good...

Thought there might be soem charter guys i could spend money with..you know,,support the AH memebers:)


I just want ..Clean air..warm waters..Bigasss fish..oh and scantley clad bioches:)
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Lizking on April 27, 2004, 04:33:27 PM
Here is my next trip-Leaving on Thursday:

(http://www.lizking.com/chubcay.jpg)

The first day, we will cross to Bimini and fish(green shading), and spend the evening in the Compleat angler, drinking rum and tossing rings. Day 2 we will cross the banks to the Tongue of the Ocean and Chub Cay. The banks are pretty shallow, 6-30 feet, so we will just run and not fish, though we will probably do some snokeling, if it is calm.

The rest of the time, we will fish the red shaded area, depending upon winds and seas. We fly out on a small private plane, the brothers and I, on Tuesday, and I am looking forward to that ride across the banks too.

We will be fishing for Marlin, but will probably also catch dolphin, wahoo, sail, and tuna. All we do is troll, dragging big plastics; 6 lines out, 4 on riggers, 2 flat with 2 strings of daisy-chained squid for teasers. I am packed and ready.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Kanth on April 27, 2004, 05:04:02 PM
That aside, I have used it and it's worked for me fine on overnite trips.

I'm going to guess that since everyone's chemistry is different, it won't work for everyone. But it was great for me, like I wasn't on a continuously rocking boat with nothing but deisel smell, eggs and people horking up over the railing for 8 hours.

:D

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Originally posted by Curval
Naughty evil wicked Kanth.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Lizking on April 27, 2004, 05:19:59 PM
Dramamine works fine, but it makes you sleep.  Why spend a couple grand to go sleep offshore?
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: storch on April 27, 2004, 05:38:05 PM
Have been doing that since 1964 LizKing,  it's a lot of fun,  watch your limits they impound boats and Bahamian Jails are real third world stuff I'm told.   It's a shorter trip from Key Biscayne than from Lauderdale BTW. about 1-1/2 hours on our boat.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Lizking on April 27, 2004, 06:05:11 PM
Yeah, I have a lot of time in the Bahamas. As an aside, my stupid little brother, while working on a 120 footer as divemaster/toymaster, caught some kind of reef fish for the on-board aquarium.  The port inspector noticed them and it cost the owner $30,000 Cash to get the boat off the island(French Martinque), so we are sensitive to the issue.

Pop lives in Lauderdale and docks his boat behind the house, that is why we leave from there.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Airhead on April 27, 2004, 06:09:53 PM
Lizking, you better post some pics of fish:)
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Lizking on April 27, 2004, 06:15:26 PM
I certainly hope to.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Lizking on April 27, 2004, 06:22:15 PM
Here is about the only video I have online-It is a Guatamalean Sailfish, about 100#, being wired and released.

2.6meg .wmv file

http://www.lizking.com/tagrelease.wmv
Title: Re: Offshore fishing
Post by: strk on April 27, 2004, 08:12:57 PM
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
Going to Sandiego-BahaArea I think to fish for Big fish..
any1 here experienced down there?


I think you should try to catch some Clownfish
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: storch on April 27, 2004, 08:25:10 PM
could we keep you in an aquarium if we do catch ya?
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: strk on April 27, 2004, 10:16:29 PM
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Originally posted by storch
could we keep you in an aquarium if we do catch ya?


how do you get around in those big shoes?
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: storch on April 27, 2004, 10:51:53 PM
I have all your drivel to keep the path ahead well lubricated.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: strk on April 28, 2004, 06:03:07 AM
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Originally posted by storch
I have all your drivel to keep the path ahead well lubricated.


Im sure your boyfriend feels the same way about you.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: storch on April 28, 2004, 06:38:30 AM
sorry, only liberals have homosexual tendencies.  why does the thread need to degenerate to this level?  I will stop responding to you in kind.  If you continue your bellicose attitude towards us clearly intellectually superior neocons I will stop responding to you all together.  After all what fault is it of ours if your maturity level engine is stuck in 1st gear?  Move on man. examine your values periodically.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: storch on April 28, 2004, 06:41:19 AM
Hey Lizking how long of a trip is it from Lauderdale?  that was a very nice sail.  Was it on the East or West Coast of Guatemala?
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Lizking on April 28, 2004, 06:48:59 AM
That is a Pacific sail, we averaged 10 a day per boat over 3 days.  Bimini is 45-50 miles from Lauderdale, about 3 hours on Pop's boat.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: strk on April 28, 2004, 06:58:13 AM
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Originally posted by storch
sorry, only liberals have homosexual tendencies.  why does the thread need to degenerate to this level?  I will stop responding to you in kind.  If you continue your bellicose attitude towards us clearly intellectually superior neocons I will stop responding to you all together.  After all what fault is it of ours if your maturity level engine is stuck in 1st gear?  Move on man. examine your values periodically.



you are the one who decided to jump in on something you had nothing to do with and attack me.  Don't be mad just because I am better at your game than you are.  And spare me your "high road" bs, its too early for your hypocrisy.

Ever hear of "Log Cabin Republicans" genius?
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: storch on April 28, 2004, 07:24:16 AM
The Log cabin republicans.

an organization of homosexuals claiming to be republican.. If fact they are a subversionist group attempting to undermine the profamily underpinnings of the republican party.

http://www.logcabin.org

They are:

pro infanticide

pro homosexual marriage

pro homosexual military service

to name a few.  they claim to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

I would say that except for the fiscally conservative part they are a close match for you.  Think about it, you would feel right at home and perhaps find a soul mate.

good luck with your search,  gender confusion does cause so many problems these days.

Peace.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Lizking on April 28, 2004, 07:45:39 AM
What does all that have to do with fishing?
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: DoctorYO on April 28, 2004, 08:16:37 AM
Lizking whats your record for the ring game..  how many consecutive hits have you gotten in a row...


my best 9......



Drink some Kalik for me.......





DoctorYo
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Lizking on April 28, 2004, 08:31:54 AM
I don't think I have ever gotten 9 in a row-2 or 3 is good for my drunk ass, usually.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: strk on April 28, 2004, 06:32:35 PM
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Originally posted by storch
The Log cabin republicans.

an organization of homosexuals claiming to be republican.. If fact they are a subversionist group attempting to undermine the profamily underpinnings of the republican party.

http://www.logcabin.org

They are:

pro infanticide

pro homosexual marriage

pro homosexual military service

to name a few.  they claim to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

I would say that except for the fiscally conservative part they are a close match for you.  Think about it, you would feel right at home and perhaps find a soul mate.

good luck with your search,  gender confusion does cause so many problems these days.

Peace.


is that where you found your man??  I have to let you know that I support your right to live however you choose.  good luck!
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: rabbidrabbit on April 29, 2004, 09:15:12 AM
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Originally posted by strk
is that where you found your man??  I have to let you know that I support your right to live however you choose.  good luck!


If you must hijack a thread at least do it with some style instead of all this worthless crap
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: WilldCrd on April 29, 2004, 09:32:48 AM
dangit i was really getting into this thread till the political dweebs had to sound off! GO AWAY! start your own thread!:mad:
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: storch on April 29, 2004, 09:39:30 AM
we hijacked it fair n' square, look even u are participating
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Lizking on April 29, 2004, 01:32:24 PM
Well, Instead of getting on an airplane at 8:40 this morning for S. Florida, I spent some time in the hospital getting the paperwork ready for my wifes surgery.  It was scheduled for 2 weeks from now, but hey had an opening on Monday, so we chose to take it.

Ah well, I doubt the boys will catch ALL the fish.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: 2stony on April 29, 2004, 03:29:12 PM
I went fishing SW of San Diego summer before last and had a great time. Our boat caught 175 tuna and one Dorado. Bluefin, Yellowtail and Albacore. I've also been fishing in Mexico several times and Cabo is the best. Last time I was down there I caught a 20 lb. Dorado, a 40 lb. Yellowfin, a 50 lb. Yellowfin and lost a 40 lb. Dorado right at the boat. Took the filets up to the "Rusty Pelican" in San Jose del Cabo and our softball team had a feast. We had two huge platters of shashimi tuna(yum, yum). The first time I ever fished in Cabo I caught a Striped Marlin. It took two hours to get it in the boat.(http://[img]http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/32_1083270425_tuna4.jpg)[/IMG]

The little fish is a Sierra and makes great ceviche.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: storch on April 29, 2004, 06:31:40 PM
looks like a mackarel to me.  in spanish kingfish is serrucho which means saw sierra could be a mountain chain or a circular saw.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: Lizking on April 29, 2004, 07:08:00 PM
There are Spanish Mackerel, and Cerro Makerel, two distinct types.  Spanish are so oily they are barely fit to eat, Cerro are just about right.
Title: Re: Offshore fishing
Post by: Drunky on April 29, 2004, 07:17:05 PM
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
Going to Sandiego-BahaArea I think to fish for Big fish..
any1 here experienced down there?


Once you are miles from shore, be sure to cast as hard as you can so that your bait is really, really far from the boat.

The other fishermen will envy your fishing prowess.
Title: Offshore fishing
Post by: storch on April 29, 2004, 11:02:44 PM
Ya I hate spanish mackerel, but we use it for bait.  never tried cerro.  usually the only mackerel family I'll eat is King.