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Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: Citabria on December 29, 2000, 10:48:00 AM
this intentional?

no spawn points.
mountains all around most bases

most strat targets inaccesible to land/sea vehicles.

bases take hours to reach by vehicle


why not have spawn points at bases to strat targets for tanks etc.

I never thought i would but I actually miss the ostwind dweebfest of the betamap.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: Beefcake on December 29, 2000, 11:00:00 AM
Yes... I kinda miss it too. I even wish that the bases that are next to the sea could spawn PT boats.....given that the VH is up. I hope HTC will fix this....very soon.
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: TheWobble on December 29, 2000, 11:43:00 AM
I think the new map kinda over does the whole sea thing, there needs to be more land and less ocean.
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: easymo on December 29, 2000, 11:51:00 AM
 Ya I always kinda thought the south pacific over did that whole water thing too.
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 29, 2000, 12:37:00 PM
maybe 2 arenas one more about aircomat over land and one like the MA, or more land in the new map
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: TheWobble on December 29, 2000, 12:39:00 PM
the arena is NOT the south pacific smartass. its just a stupid generic arena...with too much water.  was the whole war fough in south pacific (sea) NO!
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: AKDejaVu on December 29, 2000, 12:56:00 PM
Erm.. wobble.. shut up.

US carriers were stationed where?

In the pacific maybe?

Guess what.. there is a hell of a lot less land there than in this current map.

Besides... this is the MA.  It has not had a map that was representing any known terrain in WW2... anywhere.

So.. download the terrain editor.  Create your own terrain.  Submit it to HTC.  Basically.. do something other than just sit and squeak.  Until then.. see the first line again.

AKDejaVu
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: TheWobble on December 29, 2000, 01:28:00 PM
Deja, so i guess the whole whoopee game is pacific only now?  so now that we have carriers the whole war in europ never happened? YES you have figured out that carriers were based in pacfic good for you, but the pacfic was only half the war...so you "shut up" the map in MA "should" represent something resembling the conditons preasent in ww2 i.e. land war and fleet stud, oh  im just "squeaking" well as long as i am squeaking i might aswell tell you to kiss my ass. And another thing I would make a better map but HTC hasnt released an editor that does ports  so why bother. god i post a simple comment and the amazinhunks come flocking.

"see first line"  did you see it?
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: AKSeaWulfe on December 29, 2000, 01:30:00 PM
The war in Europe did already happen, remember all the version previous to this? I was getting really sick of all land, now we have a sea map and you can't even keep your mouth shut for less than a week before you begin a new rant.
-SW
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: SOB on December 29, 2000, 01:34:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by easymo:
Ya I always kinda thought the south pacific over did that whole water thing too.

Wobble, pull the stick out...this was just damn funny  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

This map just caters to what's special about this new version.  I'm sure a more vehicle friendly map will come out eventually...whether from HTC or one of the talented individuals around here who are much less lazy than myself.


SOB
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: Tac on December 29, 2000, 01:53:00 PM
The answer is obvious: MAKE THE MAP BIGGER =)

AW3 had an awesome map, it had loads of terrain and sea. Ah, those were the times...
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: Sunchaser on December 29, 2000, 02:01:00 PM
WOBBLE, are you a Weeble?

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When did they put this thing in here and WTF is it for?
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: TheWobble on December 29, 2000, 02:28:00 PM
yes, and no i dont fall down   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: Suave1 on December 29, 2000, 02:29:00 PM
Now that there are enough AH players, give us an axis vs allies eto arena pleeeeaaaase .
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: Pappy on December 29, 2000, 02:55:00 PM
Good idea Suave1, I'm not sure if they are working on a channel map for the ETO so they can have some of the sea ellements there as well but I like the idea.
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: TheWobble on December 29, 2000, 03:14:00 PM
"The war in Europe did already happen, remember all the version previous to this"

Well then smart guy, why are the skys still filled with 109's and other kraut craft, i guess its time to get rid of every aircraft that wasnt in pacific theater eh?
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: Fatty on December 29, 2000, 03:17:00 PM
 
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i guess its time to get rid of every aircraft that wasnt in pacific theater eh?
Good idea Wobble!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)


(They're aiming at changing the map each tour, you can rest assured land will be back)
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: AKSeaWulfe on December 29, 2000, 03:17:00 PM
The skies over the land terrain were filled with N1K2s and F4Us... don't start throwing in crap like "but it's the wrong planes in the wrong theater." Like I said before in another post, if you want a european conflict create rules, make a map and see if you can get participants.

You complain so much I think you forgot what you are complaining about.
-SW
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: 54Ed on December 29, 2000, 03:45:00 PM
Not all that surprising that they would make the first map of 1.05 a bit sea-centric, to encourage us to try out the naval stuff.  Since they change the terrain every month or so, it's a good bet the next map will balance the land, air, and sea games better.
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: 54Ed on December 29, 2000, 03:48:00 PM
One thing the map has given us is a whole new entertaining use for the Ostwind.  Last night I killed 4 PT boats with an Ost when they got too close to shore during a base attack.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

One thing I would like to see is more PT boat bases.  Make them like Vehicle bases, scattered all around on the islands, near the airfields.  You don't need a major port to support PT boats.  Didn't anyone see McHale's Navy?
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: Buzzbait on December 29, 2000, 04:00:00 PM
Salute to all

Actually the skies over the Pacific were not filled with F4U-c`s or N1k2`s.  They were both built in very small numbers.

N1k1`s and F4U-d`s were much more common.  And A6M5`s, P38L`s and Hellcats were most common.
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: SKurj on December 29, 2000, 06:56:00 PM
Don't quote me on this, but I believe I may have seen HT mention that remote spawn points will be added in the future...


AKskurj
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: AKDejaVu on December 29, 2000, 07:01:00 PM
 
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Deja, so i guess the whole whoopee game is pacific only now?

Please, point me to the location in the Pacific Ocean that this map is representing?

Point me to the location in the European theatre that the last map represented?

Go now.. look that up... as soon as you find it come back and tell us how stupid HTC is for having the wrong planes in the wrong theatre.

AKDejaVu

That should keep him away for quite a bit.
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: TheWobble on December 29, 2000, 07:48:00 PM
there is no "theater" but there are aircraft from all different theaters but the new map only simulates the pacific theater to a point, none of the euro theater..therfore alot of eure theater vehicles and planes are useless in this map, that is wat i was getting at when you popped the whole pacific crap.
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: Replicant on December 29, 2000, 07:51:00 PM
I'd like to see spawn points from all airfields, vehicle fields and port fields within the same island.  Spawning from any field to a Port should mean a fairly long drive, with airfields and vehicle field drive times less, respectively.

Just my tuppence worth.

Nexx
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: Buzzbait on December 29, 2000, 07:54:00 PM
Salute to all

54 Ed is correct.  PT boats did not require elaborate bases.  A couple fuel drums on a handy rock outcropping would do for a refueling stop.   A barge could unload materials and fuel in a particular area and leave the Boat on its own for a quite a time.  Victuals and water could be carried for a couple weeks.

On the other hand they did not have a very good range.  They were extremely limited in how far they could patrol.  Certainly, they could not accompany a fleet.
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: Sundog on December 30, 2000, 12:56:00 AM
I would like the current map if they would connect some more of the outer islands together. The larger land masses on the edges allow ground battles that could work their way around much of the map, and have the whole center of the map open water so there could be `Navy to Navy' battles (I don't mean the passing right through each other type). Also, having the open ocean in the center would promote the use of the P-38 from the shore to patrol out far over the water for searching out the nme fleet (Although the grid dar sorta gives that away now). Having more open water would also force the use of the `hook' on the planes more often, since planes patrolling in the center would likely have to RTB to the carrier.

I think this would also work with TAC's suggestion: Make the map bigger.

SD
Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: LLv34_Camouflage on December 30, 2000, 07:40:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by Pappy:
I'm not sure if they are working on a channel map for the ETO so they can have some of the sea ellements there as well but I like the idea.

The Europe terrain by Redwing is almost ready.  Here's some more info of it: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/006776.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/006776.html)

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Title: ground war gone almost completely in new map
Post by: Jimdandy on December 30, 2000, 12:07:00 PM
We need some gound pounding. Not much of a point in a perk Tiger if you got no place to run it. BTW how do you get perk points in a GV at all if there's no place to take it!