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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Yeager on April 29, 2004, 08:47:53 AM
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By automobiles. This is an icrease over the previous year with the fastest growing reason being SUVs and rollovers.
Alcohol was a factor in 40% of the fatalities.
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conclusion must be:
stop rolling over in your SUV's when you are drunk
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didn't we outlaw alcohol once? yep.. you see a mom with 3 kids in the mini van or suv going abourt 85-90 with one hand pressing the cell phone to her ear and then trying to steer with her knees while she yells at precious.... damn dangerous suv's!
by contrast... from 1995 to 1999... an average of 48 children under the age of ten were killed accidentaly by guns per year. Those drowning in buckets of water in the backyard were higher.
lazs
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I blame Bush.
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I say give SUVs and mobile phones to the Iraqi Insurgents
Daniel
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Originally posted by lazs2
didn't we outlaw alcohol once? yep.. you see a mom with 3 kids in the mini van or suv going abourt 85-90 with one hand pressing the cell phone to her ear and then trying to steer with her knees while she yells at precious.... damn dangerous suv's!
by contrast... from 1995 to 1999... an average of 48 children under the age of ten were killed accidentaly by guns per year. Those drowning in buckets of water in the backyard were higher.
lazs
Guns Don't kill people...
SUVs don't kill people...
Stupid people kill people.
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that cant be right muck... there are too many people still alive for that theory to hold water.. ;)
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How many marijuana related deaths, you think?
I'm guessing "two".
:D
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how many people died because someone was stoned on pot? I would say a couple of hundred at least maybe a thousand a year if you subscribe to the notion that being impared contributed to the accident.
lazs
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Wonder how many have died in "*******" stunts... we had one a few days back. One idiot put on a costume and lied down on a road while the other 2 idiots filmed the whole thing
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yep.. you see a mom with 3 kids in the mini van or suv going abourt 85-90 with one hand pressing the cell phone to her ear and then trying to steer with her knees while she yells at precious.... damn dangerous suv's!
Yup, so true.
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Clearly, we must ban automobiles.
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Well if people kill people, then we ought to ban people.
Ravs
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You mean we ought to ban stupid people.
I agree.
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But will they be too stupid to comprehend that they've been banned? :confused:
Ravs
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take heart rav... I am allmost certain that a very nasty plague or war will thin the population enough most so called problems will become trivial.
lazs
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We're certainly due something catastrophic in nature and huge in scale - a la 'Black Death', meteor strike, or 'Dynasty - the movie'. Just hope it's not in my lifetime.
Ravs
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we do have the little tiny thing called aids...and its killing ALOT, and its spreading
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SUV can take it everything, but rolling on it's top...
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Originally posted by Nilsen
we do have the little tiny thing called aids...and its killing ALOT, and its spreading
This is true, but I don't do porno's any more so I'm not worried about it.
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Nah...I think the 'biggie' when it comes is going to make AIDS look like party in the park.
Ravs
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impotent already Udie? :p
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Originally posted by ravells
Nah...I think the 'biggie' when it comes is going to make AIDS look like party in the park.
Ravs
the biggie???
Please do tell....
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Stupid people kill people.
That's why the homicide rate in the US is so much higher than in the rest of the world! :lol
j/k
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Amen Beet, I think the message on the Statue of Liberty was interpreted by foreign govts as "send me your stupid, your lazy, your criminals. As a citizen of the U.S. I can tell you we have a LOT of stupid people here.
My rule of thumb in getting through the day: 80% of the people around me are barely functioning idiots, I must be on the alert for the inevitable; their stupidity manifesting itself in some dangerous/foolish action or expression.
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with enough time the stupid people will eradicate themselves...no point in worrying about it.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
the biggie???
Please do tell....
Don't know...just a gut feeling. Too many people crowded in a too small a place, screwing with the environment, making dangerous stuff.
Ravs
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no point in worrying about it.
Well, I'll continue to keep a lookout for them. Stupid people often take other people w/ them when they check out.
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That's totally bogus.
Why, just yesterday I was driving my 4runner, yapping on my cell phone while holding a beer in one hand and a joint in the other, and nothing happened. I don't know how I got all that front-end damage, though.
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And how many americans were killed by terrorist attacks in 2003? Hmm - makes ya wonder where to set priorities...
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Someone looke up how many americans died due to cardio-vascular disease in 2003 please!
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not to mention death by
snake/spider bites
sharp pointy opjects
foot fungus
suicides
etc...
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Originally posted by Yeager
By automobiles. This is an icrease over the previous year with the fastest growing reason being SUVs and rollovers.
Alcohol was a factor in 40% of the fatalities.
How many Americans were killed in 2003 by gunshots?
...-Gixer
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When people stop driving there SUVs like sports cars the deaths will go down .
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Originally posted by Steve
Amen Beet, I think the message on the Statue of Liberty was interpreted by foreign govts as "send me your stupid, your lazy, your criminals. As a citizen of the U.S. I can tell you we have a LOT of stupid people here.
My rule of thumb in getting through the day: 80% of the people around me are barely functioning idiots, I must be on the alert for the inevitable; their stupidity manifesting itself in some dangerous/foolish action or expression.
Don't be hard on yourself Steve, stupid people are evenly distributed throughout the world. There are plenty here and Beetle, plenty in Britain too, mostly Tories:D Stupid people are put on Earth to make the rest of us look good.
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Originally posted by cpxxx
Don't be hard on yourself Steve, stupid people are evenly distributed throughout the world. There are plenty here and Beetle, plenty in Britain too, mostly Tories:D Stupid people are put on Earth to make the rest of us look good.
Where do you fit in?
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Originally posted by lazs2
... from 1995 to 1999... an average of 48 children under the age of ten were killed accidentaly by guns per year. Those drowning in buckets of water in the backyard were higher.
lazs
Then we need to ban buckets. Or put a safety device- say, a hole in the bottom of the bucket- to make them safe.
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Or maybe we could seal up the holes in people's heads that allows the water in.
:aok
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I can't prove this, but, if it were possible to know, I think we'd find out that most of the alcohol related deaths were caused by (drumroll) Alcoholics. For these people, their alcohol/blood content means nothing. There going to drive till they die, or kill some one.
Lowering the percentage and arresting non-alcoholic is a 'Feel Good' but it does nothing to reduce the accident rate. In addition, it's a 'No Brainer' for a politician because who would dare be against lower limits.
I'm not really upset about this, it's just how things work.
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Originally posted by Dune
Or maybe we could seal up the holes in people's heads that allows the water in.
:aok
Make snorkels mandatory while using a bucket. And outlaw buckets with bales on them because statistics show people are more likely to drown by getting their heads stuck underneath the bales.
With proper legislation we can make it safe to use buckets. I am pro-bucket control.
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Originally posted by Steve
Amen Beet, I think the message on the Statue of Liberty was interpreted by foreign govts as "send me your stupid, your lazy, your criminals. As a citizen of the U.S. I can tell you we have a LOT of stupid people here.
My rule of thumb in getting through the day: 80% of the people around me are barely functioning idiots, I must be on the alert for the inevitable; their stupidity manifesting itself in some dangerous/foolish action or expression.
...err, I was going to post something, but I'm afraid to say somethin stupid:(
:aok Steve
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Originally posted by Airhead
Then we need to ban buckets. Or put a safety device- say, a hole in the bottom of the bucket- to make them safe.
Originally recorded by Hank Williams
"I got a hole in my bucket and I can't buy no beer"
(http://www.wvculture.org/goldenseal/winter02/hank.jpg)
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The solution to stupid people problem is very very simple. Just take the safety labels off everything. The problem will take care of itself. Read my sig.
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Simple put the safety instructions on the bottom of the bucket.
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Originally posted by Stoned Gecko
The solution to stupid people problem is very very simple. Just take the safety labels off everything. The problem will take care of itself. Read my sig.
I'll go you one better than that- what we need to do is have safety labels designed to fool the really stupid. Put labels on 110 volt hair driers that say "Safe for use in water," put up 120 MPH speed limit signs on mountain roads, sell heroin as a weight loss suplement- the sooner we get rid of the truly stupid the quicker we evolve into a society of more intelligent beings. Don't let stupidity hold you back.
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Originally posted by beet1e
That's why the homicide rate in the US is so much higher than in the rest of the world! :lol
j/k
Population control:D
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Originally posted by lazs2
from 1995 to 1999... an average of 48 children under the age of ten were killed accidentaly by guns per year. Those drowning in buckets of water in the backyard were higher.lazs
Lol! (er I shouldn't laugh)...
Drown in buckets of water? How is that even physically possible? I guess standing up to let the water drain rather than attempting to tread water never occured to them.
By average you mean that 48 die of buckets per year? What kinda buckets are these? I mean, even if a kid stays with his head dunked despite losing consciousness, wouldn't his passing out cause the bucket to tip over and spill?
I don't doubt it, but wow, absurd.
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Nash, it happens every day- a toddler goes into the back yard, slips into a bucket, birdbath, Koi pond, whatever- and drowns.
It is up to us as Americans to remove hazards from the home- I propose we ban Koi ponds immediately and put safety screens on bird baths. We can give the dead Koi to the Starkist people- maybe they can mix it into their tuna. Ever since they banned dolphins in tuna the stuff tastes like the crap of a Breathologist.
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lol! :) slips and falls into a bucket...
Damn... I admit I haven't actually seen a bucket in a good long time, but they must be making them a whole lot bigger than I remember.
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If alcohol was related in 40% what about the other 60%?
Probably soccer moms flapping their yaps on these damn cellphones while putting on their makup or brushing their hair in the rear view at the same time.
I swear see at least 3 or 4 of these people doing exactly that every day. Half the time they are either all over the road or driving in such an annoying mindless manner I feel like running them off the road myself.
One problem with the SUVs is alot of people think they can drive them like they can any other car. They dont get that they are not like any other car. The center of gravity is higher thus making them more prone to flip while making fast tight turns.
Another problem is people tend to think that because they are 4 wheel drive they can take them anywhere on or off road in any kind of weather condition. Again they cant.
These or at least most of them are basically trucks with car suspension systems so they can have a smooth car like ride.
and the ones you can take anywhere have truck suspension systems and ride..well like a truck.
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you mean they got safety labels on stuff.
i never read them and i am doing fine.
Don't believe me?
I will prove it..
Lok aat howa goed i canm spelll.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
(http://www.wvculture.org/goldenseal/winter02/hank.jpg)
Hank!
"I got a flat bed ford and a two dollar bill"
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Originally posted by beet1e
That's why the homicide rate in the US is so much higher than in the rest of the world! :lol
Beet1e: Two things:
#1) Please provide some data to support this, and if you don't mind, include South Africa.
#2) What do you find so funny about homicide ?
Mind you, I'm not judging your 'World View'. I'm just trying to understanding it more clearly.
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Originally posted by Otto
Beet1e: Two things:
#1) Please provide some data to support this, and if you don't mind, include South Africa.
#2) What do you find so funny about homicide ?
Mind you, I'm not judging your 'World View'. I'm just trying to understanding it more clearly.
Hi Otto. [list=1]- Certainly, although the file I'm attaching includes figures up to the end of 1999, not beyond. There might be more documents like this on the Home Office website. I don't have time to check as I'm going on a foreign trip starting today. Check out Page 10 of the attached .PDF file.
- Nothing funny about homicide. Stupidity can be funny. Sometimes.
Home Office homicide .PDF (http://www.zen33071.zen.co.uk/hosb601.pdf)
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Fair enough. That's a lot to digest at once. Let me get some population data and we'll see were we stand.
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airhead... don't you dare tell finestein or boxer your ideas!
nash... are you saying that is not possible for a toddler to drown in a bucket or... that you don't have 5 gallon buckets where you live or... that you don't leave em outside but it wouldn't matter cause it doesn't rain there and you don't water the lawn?
gixer... depends on how you define "American". If you leave out "undocumented" (non PC term= illegal allien) the rate is probly about 8,000 per 300 million.... If you only count accidents... it is about the 60th most common accident ... far below slipping in the bathtub.
If you count only the white population homicides then it is about like that of canada.
I think I will go shooting today.
lazs
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Five gallon buckets?? Why would anybody need a five gallon bucket?? Bucket size should be limited to 2.5 gallons max, and those shouldn't have bales. Otherwise people will carry two buckets at once, thereby doubling drowning potential.
Ya know, I'm getting good at this politics stuff and I live in the Heart of Hippie Land... I might run for office.
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Originally posted by CyranoAH
I say give SUVs and mobile phones to the Iraqi Insurgents
Daniel
They never roll them over, kinda tough to do with 3000 pounds of explovives inthem :mad:
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Originally posted by Steve
"send me your stupid, your lazy, your criminals.
So, when did your family heed that advice, Steve?:lol
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So, when did your family heed that advice, Steve?
Just before yours did, then we bought your family and put them to work on our plantation.
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It is a proven fact that pot is a drug that dose not kill(unless you get in a car and drive). Auto deaths that are pot related do not come even close to those of alcohol related deaths. There is no real reason why pot should be illegal.
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Originally posted by StabbyTheIcePic
It is a proven fact that pot is a drug that dose not kill...
but it does screw up your spelling...
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rofl
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:rofl
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
but it does screw up your spelling...
Very true.
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You gotta really watch it ice pick.
Most of these guys wheeere champions at there local spelling B's
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Originally posted by Steve
Just before yours did, then we bought your family and put them to work on our plantation.
Failed business, failed philosophy, failed life. You're batting 1.000. As a Christian, my prayers are with you.
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i though fat was number 1 usa citizen killer
:)
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Why is there so much backlash to the alcohol statistic?
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I wouldn't be suprised if fat was the number one killer in ALL western societies, not just the USA.
The more high tech and convenient our lives become, the lazier and less fit we all become.
Probably closely followed up for second place by tobacco, then probably alchohol.
By the way guys, what is an SUV? Sport Utilitarion Vehicle or something? Sub Urban vehicle?
I know what a 4 Runner is, just down here thats called a 4 wheel drive, a Ute, or simply a Toyota or Tojo.
Though Toyota and Tojo, or plain old Cruiser, are usually specifically meaning the Land Cruiser, not the HiLux.
Allso, what are 'bales' on a bucket?
Blue
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Originally posted by StabbyTheIcePic
It is a proven fact that pot is a drug that dose not kill(unless you get in a car and drive). Auto deaths that are pot related do not come even close to those of alcohol related deaths. There is no real reason why pot should be illegal.
How is it proven? Please provide evidence to back that up.
The reason that there is no prosecution is the fact that we have no way to establish how much needs to be be in your system like we do for alcohol.
Also a large part of your other 60% is fatigue.
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
They never roll them over, kinda tough to do with 3000 pounds of explovives inthem :mad:
:rofl
Personally I see nothing wrong with SUV's people crash them because they are idiots driving them like sports cars and expect them to handle the same in the wet as their car.
My daily drive (days when not on the bike) is a Jeep with Mud Terrain tyres on it, in the wet I just take it easy especially with breaking distances.
It's a pig on gas but I'm having too much fun listening to the six and tyre hum to care. I can use the bike when I want to save on gas. Though the bike isn't all that economical either on gas past 7000rpm. And another disadvantage is that you tend to go through a whole forrest of rubber in one year. :D
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by -Concho-
How is it proven? Please provide evidence to back that up.
The reason that there is no prosecution is the fact that we have no way to establish how much needs to be be in your system like we do for alcohol.
Also a large part of your other 60% is fatigue.
Concho,
Good to see you.
My new gf is in the police force, we were discussing this very same subject the other day. She said the police were trialing some new device in conjunction with Aussie police and also working with Universities from Auckland and Australia studying the effects of pot on driving.
...-Gixer
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Gix knowing you she has to hot! :)
Good to know that they are trying to dev. something for this.
are you still in this game? things settling out here, flying a bit....
shoot me a line.
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Clearly, we need to register all automobiles. Then we've got to absolutely require training, testing and licensing of all those who want to use them.
Of course, when a repeat DUI offender jumps the median while his BAC level is over the legal limit and then kills an entire family in their minivan, he should be given a ticket and at least a $100 fine.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Five gallon buckets?? Why would anybody need a five gallon bucket?? Bucket size should be limited to 2.5 gallons max, and those shouldn't have bales. Otherwise people will carry two buckets at once, thereby doubling drowning potential.
Ya know, I'm getting good at this politics stuff and I live in the Heart of Hippie Land... I might run for office.
Who doesnt carry 2 Five gallon buckets at once?
Ya some kinda weakling or sumpin? LOL
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Originally posted by StabbyTheIcePic
It is a proven fact that pot is a drug that dose not kill(unless you get in a car and drive). Auto deaths that are pot related do not come even close to those of alcohol related deaths. There is no real reason why pot should be illegal.
If given a hard choice Id MUCH rather get in a car with a driver stoned on pot over a driver who's had a few beers hands down.
A Drinking driver tends to speed alot and might not stop at a redlight.
a stoned driver will drive slower out of paranoia that he might get pulled over and will stop for the redlight, again out of paranoia.
Now he may forget to go again once the light turns green. but he sure as hell will stop for the redlight. LOL
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Failed business, failed philosophy, failed life. You're batting 1.000
actually many families that owned plantations are still very well off today. I guess if you call long lasting wealth a failure you may be correct.
As a Christian, my prayers are with you.
No thanks, after the insult you tossed at me, I'd accept nothing from you.
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Originally posted by lazs2
nash... are you saying that is not possible for a toddler to drown in a bucket or... that you don't have 5 gallon buckets where you live or... that you don't leave em outside but it wouldn't matter cause it doesn't rain there and you don't water the lawn?
Nope, I believed it, I just found it hard to believe. I had to do a google search to see what a 5 gallon bucket even looks like, and it's not that hard to believe anymore.
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Originally posted by Nash
I had to do a google search to see what a 5 gallon bucket even looks like...
Such a sheltered existence. Sometimes, you have my envy. :)
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The "bail"(not bale) of a bucket is the handle.
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I propose the following warning labels:
Warning Labels (http://www.realmofredheads.com/interactive/article.php?story=20030729140052766&mode=print)
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Nope, I believed it, I just found it hard to believe.
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Its a rarity when looking at the overall numbers but something like 30-40 kids a year die by falling into half full buckets of water.
Head first they just dont have the mass to knock themselves over
and drown. Life can be awful ****ty even for youngsters.
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Yeah, looking at those buckets, the water inside is prolly heavier than the kids who would be able to fit head first inside them.
Not only that, but the diameter looks big enough to allow a kid's shoulders and arms to fit inside, but not big enough for any kind of motion once there.
I'll either get some of those buckets, or some kids, but not both. Frankly, this is really starting to trouble me. I'm with Airhead, and I will do my part by writing to my local omnibudsman to legislate against these dangers.
Sandman, I'll trade ya my balcony for your yard. :)
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Originally posted by Udie
This is true, but I don't do porno's any more so I'm not worried about it.
trying to figure out Udie in celibat :rolleyes:
:D
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ya thats got to be more people than were killed by guns.... let's take away automobiles!!!!
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That and the "do not touch red glowing element" warning labels on electric stovetops would be good...
Perhaps skywriting that would say.. "when raining there may be a drowning hazard if you stare up at the rain with your mouth open".
finestein and boxer give us that warm, fuzzy, protected "moving back in with mom feeling" that democrat voters love so much.
lazs
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Originally posted by Nash
Yeah, looking at those buckets, the water inside is prolly heavier than the kids who would be able to fit head first inside them.
Not only that, but the diameter looks big enough to allow a kid's shoulders and arms to fit inside, but not big enough for any kind of motion once there.
I'll either get some of those buckets, or some kids, but not both. Frankly, this is really starting to trouble me. I'm with Airhead, and I will do my part by writing to my local omnibudsman to legislate against these dangers.
Sandman, I'll trade ya my balcony for your yard. :)
I've got a few of those 5-gallon buckets that I use around the pool, usually to pre-mix shock treatments. You can have my buckets when you pry them from my cold dead fingers. :)
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I probly have too many 5 gallon buckets but I like to have a dozen or so around just in case they are banned. The black buckets may be the first to be banned under new finestien laws. Since UV rays don't affect them as much they don't deteriorate and fall apart. She is calling them assault pails and claiming that the ban would be worth it if it saved only one child.
sandie will be branded as a bucket nut and ostracized from lefty forums.
lazs
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It's obvious none of you has ever been the victim of a walk-by bucket attack while lounging around the pool. I'll tell ya, five gallons of ice water in the face and YOU would all be in favor of bucket control too.
It has nothing to do with politics- it's for your own good.
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well... if it's for my own good (or even anyone elses) then I guess I better get in step and vote for it...
The right thing for any democrat to do really is to think before they vote... say to themselves.. "what would mommie want me to do?"
lazs