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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: bizket on April 29, 2004, 09:47:58 PM
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I'm looking at picking up a 2000 Ford Explorer. Its loaded V-8 4WD all that crap. I know the mileage sucks, but I'm almost positive it will be better than my old 87 F150. Just would like to get some thoughts from some unbiased owners. Any reliabilty issues, safety, misc. features etc etc.
Please no FORD SUX crap;)
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Bizket,
Bought my 1996 Explorer new in Nov of 95. Got 178k on it now. Put the third set of tires on it last summer. Still on second set of brakes and put new shocks on it last summer. Couple of tune ups, changed the oil every 4-5k. Zero problems. Its has been paid for for the last 3-1/2 years. Looks good. It has been a great vehicle. Wife has a new car but I can not part with my truck. I think it knows it way home.
Just my experience.
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Bizket The wife and I have an 02 exploder LOL.
Just kidding Its a good little SUV.
Just dont ask it to fly around corners LOL.
We have the 4.0 liter OHC engine and she does pretty good.
How many miles on the one you looking at?
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I've had no problems with mine.
(http://home.ripway.com/2004-3/80979/sniff.jpg)
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its a 2000 and its got a V8...u sure?
WE have a 200 Sport 2dr 4WD. We have 2 kids and 2 dogs and its perfect for out family.
WE get about 25 MPG on the HW and 20 in the city...(with a few mods)
It does great in the snow and great in rough terrain....the interior has held up for at least 60k miles.
the only major mait. problem we had was w/ emissions...one of the cats and O2 sensors went bad. (search for thread "exhaust ?" dealership really fubared the repair but its all better now.
Other than that its really comfortable...the only other SUV that I've liked better than it was a 4DR dodge durango.
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Keep the tires inflated to near max capacity. Good for most vehicles, actually.
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I had 2 tread seperations within 3 months about a year ago...... both traveling from Phoenix to Tucson on I-10.'
Ask Steve, he has seen my truck in the aftermath ( F-250)
I was over 70 MPH both times, same tire seperated both times and tore the whole side of the truck apart..... very scary
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Wow,
Good thing you're okay. Same thing happened to my brother inlaw driving his Nissan Quest. Shredded the outer tread on the right rear tire while driving on the freeway. Luckily the tire held its pressure. Scary thing to happen.
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I have a '95 and had no problems until around 130,000. Since then it has been constant maintenence. It has about 185,000 now. Ford must have designed their sensors and electronics to die at 130,000. Seems like I had to replace every single one right around then. No major breakdowns other than a new tranny (also right around 130K). It still drives like a dream, I wouldn't be afraid to take it on a roadtrip.
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"Dale's dead..........Ford sucks..........had a job"
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Owned a 98 sport that had no problems! replaced it with a 2002 exploder that is an excellant vehicle. zero problems.
IKON
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Only experience I've had with them, is winching one out of the bottom of a sand dune. :D
...-Gixer
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I have a 98 with the 6-cyl SOHC. Good power for a 6, no problems. It's surprisingly good in snow, better than my old Bronco was.
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Well I bought one. I didnt by the one the orignal one I was looking at. I did by a 2000 with a little less miles on it.
Notice no Firestones.
(http://www.lumpygravyrocks.com/2004_0502Image0001.JPG)
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Originally posted by Gnslngr
its a 2000 and its got a V8...u sure?
I was wrong about that. The other one had the towing package so I assumed it was a V8.
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Originally posted by Drifter1234
Bizket,
Bought my 1996 Explorer new in Nov of 95. Got 178k on it now. Put the third set of tires on it last summer. Still on second set of brakes and put new shocks on it last summer. Couple of tune ups, changed the oil every 4-5k. Zero problems. Its has been paid for for the last 3-1/2 years. Looks good. It has been a great vehicle. Wife has a new car but I can not part with my truck. I think it knows it way home.
Just my experience.
Holy crap that's a lot of tires and miles! I have a 98 4runner and I'm still running the original set of Michelins. Original brakes, too. Only have 45k miles on it, though.
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Originally posted by bizket
Well I bought one. I didnt by the one the orignal one I was looking at. I did by a 2000 with a little less miles on it.
Notice no Firestones.
(http://www.lumpygravyrocks.com/2004_0502Image0001.JPG)
Nice lookin' truck. I like those rims; I have the same ones on my 4runner. ;)
The problem with the Ford/Firestone combo on the first generation Explorer wasn't the tire, it was the suspension. The Ford Explorer couldn't hold an alignment. Ford's "economical" solution was to underinflate the tires, which caused the tires to fail but hey, Ford could (and did) blame the tire manufacturer even though Ford intentionally violated the manufacturer's specs.
I think Ford fixed the problem with the 2nd generation.
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Originally posted by bizket
I was wrong about that. The other one had the towing package so I assumed it was a V8.
Yea I didnt think so either.....I've never seen an Explorer w/ a V8 in it. I think for that you'd have to step up to the Expidition.
Have you checked out this forum yet:
http://Http://www.seriousexplorations.com
Its a forum specifically for Ford Explorers and they are pretty good guys
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1999 Ford Explorer XLS here, with 97,000 flawless miles on it. Other than the initial recalls (which seems to be the norm in the auto industy these days) no problems...
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Yea I didnt think so either.....I've never seen an Explorer w/ a V8 in it. I think for that you'd have to step up to the Expidition.
Have you checked out this forum yet:
http://Http://www.seriousexplorations.com
Its a forum specifically for Ford Explorers and they are pretty good guys
Explorers come with a v8 option.
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Ford's do suk(their quality blows)..Unless it's something like an Escape(..A Mazda with Ford sticker on it)
The only thing they make that is any good is the F150's and the Mustangs.
But if you like recalls and don't mind taking your vehicle in every few months to a dealership..Well..Buy a Focus...
Or, for instance..Buya new Ford "Freestar"...CR rates it as the worst minivan u can buy(except for the Kia)..And it's a brand new vehicle...They should have hired Homer Simpson as a design consultant imho.
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Originally posted by SirLoin
Ford's do suk(their quality blows)..Unless it's something like an Escape(..A Mazda with Ford sticker on it)
The only thing they make that is any good is the F150's and the Mustangs.
But if you like recalls and don't mind taking your vehicle in every few months to a dealership..Well..Buy a Focus...
Or, for instance..Buya new Ford "Freestar"...CR rates it as the worst minivan u can buy(except for the Kia)..And it's a brand new vehicle...They should have hired Homer Simpson as a design consultant imho.
Fords quality, customer satisfaction isn't as bad a GM however...
at least according to JD Power Customer satisfaction polls.
Ford is about "average":
http://www.jdpa.com/studies_jdpower/pressrelease.asp?StudyID=674&CatID=1
Also, before using the term "sucks" so loosely, better check the facts out (instead of going by your gut feeling) and check out this page (http://www.jdpa.com/studies/category.asp?CatID=1) and click "Ford", then look at the "Awards" column. ;)
~2004 Initial Quality Study (IQS) Highest Ranked Compact Pickup in Initial Quality
~2003 India Automotive Performance, Execution and Layout Study Most Appealing Entry Midsize Car
~2003 Taiwan Automotive Performance, Execution and Layout (APEAL) Study Most Appealing Entry Midsize Car
~2003 Taiwan Initial Quality Study Best Entry Midsize Car in Initial QualityAutomotive Performance, Execution and Layout (APEAL) Study Most Appealing Full-Size Sport Utility Vehicle
~2003 Consumer Financing Satisfaction Study Highest Ranked in Satisfaction with Initial Consumer Leases
~2003 Consumer Financing Satisfaction Study Highest Ranked in Satisfaction with Initial Consumer Leases for Luxury Nameplates
~2003 Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS) Most Dependable Full-Size Pickup
~2003 Initial Quality Study Highest Ranked Full-Size Car in Initial Quality
~UK Car Customer Satisfaction (CSI) Study Most Improved Make in Customer Satisfaction in the United Kingdom
2~003 Initial Quality Study Highest Ranked Full-Size Pickup in Initial Quality
and thats just 2003, and first quarter of 2004 alone.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
~2004 Initial Quality Study (IQS) Highest Ranked Compact Pickup in Initial Quality
~2003 Taiwan Initial Quality Study Best Entry Midsize Car in Initial QualityAutomotive Performance, Execution and Layout (APEAL) Study Most Appealing Full-Size Sport Utility Vehicle
~2003 Consumer Financing Satisfaction Study Highest Ranked in Satisfaction with Initial Consumer Leases
~2003 Consumer Financing Satisfaction Study Highest Ranked in Satisfaction with Initial Consumer Leases for Luxury Nameplates
~2003 Initial Quality Study Highest Ranked Full-Size Car in Initial Quality
~2003 Initial Quality Study Highest Ranked Full-Size Pickup in Initial Quality
Does this mean Ford builds its vehicles well, but out of crappy parts?
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Chevy
~2004 Initial Quality Study (IQS) Highest Ranked Full-Size Sport Utility Vehicle in Initial Quality
~2003 Thailand Sales Satisfaction Index (SSI) Study #1 Nameplate in Sales Satisfaction
~2003 Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS) Most Dependable Entry Midsize Car
~2003 Initial Quality Study Highest Ranked Entry Midsize Car in Initial Quality
~2003 Initial Quality Study Highest Ranked Full-Size Sport Utility Vehicle in Initial Quality
~2002 Initial Quality Study
~2002 Initial Quality Study Best Entry Midsize Car in Initial Quality
~2002 Initial Quality Study Best Premium Sports Car in Initial Quality
~2001 Automotive Performance, Execution and Layout (APEAL) Study Most Appealing Midsize Sport Utility Vehicle
~2001 Automotive Performance, Execution and Layout (APEAL) Study Most Appealing Premium Sports Car in a Tie
~2001 Initial Quality Study Best Premium Sports Car in Initial Quality
~2000 Automotive Performance, Execution and Layout Study Most Appealing Sports Car
GMC
~2004 Initial Quality Study (IQS) Silver Plant Quality Award, North/South America
~2003 Medium-Duty Truck Customer Satisfaction Study Highest in Customer Satisfaction with Medium Duty Truck Dealer Service
~2004 Rear-Seat Entertainment Usage and Satisfaction Study
Automotive Performance, Execution and Layout (APEAL) Study Most Appealing Full-Size Van
~2003 Canadian Dealer Financing Satisfaction Study Highest in Dealer Satisfaction With Floor Planning
~2003 Canadian Dealer Financing Satisfaction Study Highest in Dealer Satisfaction With Retail Credit
~2003 Canadian Dealer Financing Satisfaction Study Highest in Dealer Satisfaction With Retail Leasing
~2003 Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS) Most Dependable Full-Size Sport Utility Vehicle
~2003 Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS) Most Dependable Full-size Van
~2003 Initial Quality Study Gold Plant Quality Award, North/South America
~2003 Initial Quality Study Silver Plant Quality Award, North/South America
~2002 Medium-Duty Truck Customer Satisfaction Study Highest in Customer Satisfaction with Medium Duty Truck Dealer Service
~2002 Automotive Performance, Execution and Layout Study Most Appealing Full-Size Van
~2002 Canadian Dealer Financing Satisfaction Study Highest in Dealer Satisfaction With Floor Planning
~2002 Canadian Dealer Financing Satisfaction Study Highest in Dealer Satisfaction With Retail Credit
~2002 Canadian Dealer Financing Satisfaction Study Highest in Dealer Satisfaction With Retail Leasing
~2002 Initial Quality Study Bronze Plant Quality Award, North America
~2002 Initial Quality Study Gold Plant Quality Award, North America
~2002 Initial Quality Study Silver Plant Quality Award, North America
~2001 Canadian Dealer Finance Satisfaction Study Highest in Dealer Satisfaction With Floor Planning
~2001 Canadian Dealer Finance Satisfaction Study Highest in Dealer Satisfaction With Retail Credit
~2001 Canadian Dealer Finance Satisfaction Study Highest in Dealer Satisfaction With Retail Leasing
~2001 Initial Quality Study Best Compact Pickup in Initial Quality
~2000 Canadian Dealer Financing Satisfaction Study Highest in Dealer Satisfaction With Retail Leasing
pontiac, buick, blah blah blah..........
Explorer is a pretty decent ride, and they are available with a V8. Good luck with it, hope it serves you well.
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Originally posted by gofaster
Does this mean Ford builds its vehicles well, but out of crappy parts?
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
I can only comment on the previous Ford vehicles *I* have owned, and stats on various websites.
I've previously owned F150(3), Explorer(1) and F250(1)models and have had flawless utility out of them all. All vehicles (except my F250) have had over 100,000 miles on them (the Explorer is fast approaching 100k). I wouldn't think of owning anything else in respect to an SUV or Truck. The only automobiles that I've owned that were Ford brand are not current to this thread as they were old cars (1964 Ford Falcon convertible w/ 302 Boss, 1967 Ford Fairlane w/289) I sold the '67 Fairlane with 254,000 miles on the odometer on its original engine, although it was smoking about 1 qt. of oil every 100 miles :lol
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Just looked at the first bar graph you posted Rip...Ford is rated worst of all vehicles..Hey,some gut feeling eh?
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I do have to say I've never owned anything but a Ford. Never had any reason to buy anything else, outside of little things they never gave me any major problems.
First car was a 1983 LTD. It had a 100K on it when I got it and I put on another 75,000. I sold it to a friend and he put another 50,000 on it. The old straight six will run forever. I know for a fact it was still on the road about 4 years ago.
89 Escort GT Used to be my wifes car. 160,000 when we sold it to a guy I used to work with. He fixed it up a bit and drives it 60 miles round trip to work everyday.
91 Escort 175,000 traded it in on a 99 Escort that my wife drives now. That one has 110,000 and finally needed its first tuneup a couple of months ago.
87 F150 190,000 miles, once again the straight six. That one did have a sensor go out that turned into a problem. The guy replaced it with a new one that turned out to be bad also. So the truck never ran any better and he went on to check other things, never thinking that the sensor he put in might be bad. Finally someone from Ford came and took a look at it and got it figured out. But I was without my truck for a long time.
That was the biggest problem I ever had with any of my vehicles outside of wear and tear. And it turned out to be a 40 dollar part. Until they prove me different I'll keep buying them.
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Originally posted by SirLoin
Just looked at the first bar graph you posted Rip...Ford is rated worst of all vehicles..Hey,some gut feeling eh?
Industry average: 767
Ford: 768
Yeah, some gut feeling ;)
(pssst. not all automobiles are ranked in the top 20 ;) )
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I don't care about Fords,Nissans,Mistubuishi's,BMW's,Range Rovers, whatever. I just love my Jeep. :D
(http://www.jeepgallery.com/gallery/desktops/5.jpg)
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Forget the Jeep, you're kinda cute Gixer.
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I've owned an explorer, and my father just bought his second or third last month.
I enjoyed mine.
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Originally posted by Nash
Forget the Jeep, you're kinda cute Gixer.
LMAO
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Originally posted by Gixer
I don't care about Fords,Nissans,Mistubuishi's,BMW's,Range Rovers, whatever. I just love my Jeep. :D
(http://www.jeepgallery.com/gallery/desktops/5.jpg)
Is she standard equipment???:)
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She's equipment, all right. Dunno about the standard part.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Yea I didnt think so either.....I've never seen an Explorer w/ a V8 in it. I think for that you'd have to step up to the Expidition.
Have you checked out this forum yet:
http://Http://www.seriousexplorations.com
Its a forum specifically for Ford Explorers and they are pretty good guys
The exploder can be had with the 5.0 V-8