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Title: Today in history...
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on April 30, 2004, 08:19:45 AM
Nevermind
Title: Today in history...
Post by: Udie on April 30, 2004, 08:34:38 AM
gee thanks for the reminder.....


celebrations going well comrad?
Title: Today in history...
Post by: Wolfala on April 30, 2004, 10:40:46 AM
To quote another member, I normally go out of my way to coach my comments to even those I violently disagree with in a non-confrontational way, and with a degree of respect I believe human beings deserve. So please take this in the spirit it is intended...

Go to hell.
Title: Re: Today in history...
Post by: Bodhi on April 30, 2004, 10:50:36 AM
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
http://www.guardian.co.uk/fromthearchive/story/0,12269,1206971,00.html


I was going to be nice aftert some of your former comments, but, it is obvious you are yet another piece of juvenile eurotrash that needs to be ignored.

Enjoy the karma your posting brings around...
Title: Today in history...
Post by: Creamo on April 30, 2004, 10:57:16 AM
The AH O'Club now sucks.

It isn't a AH flightsim bbs forum alternative/choice for sharing anything other than gameplay issues, it's just a bunch of trolls, and a political mess.
Title: Today in history...
Post by: Raubvogel on April 30, 2004, 11:07:22 AM
This coming Tuesday in history.........


May 4, 1982
Argentine air attacks from Super Etendard fighter planes using Exocet air to surface missiles sink the British destroyer HMS Sheffield with twenty men on board. One British Harrier plane is shot down.
Title: Today in history...
Post by: Udie on April 30, 2004, 11:08:07 AM
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Originally posted by GScholz
*LOL!* No one hates more being reminded they lost than the Americans, and yet they love reminding others (French bashing anyone?). So please take this in the spirit it is intended ... Suck it up, you had it coming.



yeah I'll go tell that to my Vietnamese friend who lost his family after we left.
Title: Today in history...
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on April 30, 2004, 11:18:35 AM
We were there because the French screwed it up to begin with and then ran.

Further, it was evidently politcally expedient not to fight to win, or to win. Kennedy and Johnson chose to get us into the mess. The powers that were did not have the convictions to do what was necessary to win. Targets were chosen on the basis of political safety, not on the basis of strategical importance. The war was run on a political basis rather than a military basis. Such actions are thus doomed to failure.

Had the military been released to target the infrastructure and support elements of the NVA, and to take and hold ground, the outcome would likely have been very different. When one side practices limited warfare, while the other side practices total warfare, the side that practices limited warfare will not win, regardless of other advantages.

There was no unconditional surrender by either side in Vietnam. The U.S. was not actually defeated in battle. It was in fact military action by the U.S. that practically forced North Vietnam to the table, and into the agreement the U.S. offered. Not the other way around.

On a final note, on the did not win side of the ledger, the U.S. has Vietnam, and it appears it has recovered nicely. So, how many does YOUR country have on the did not win, or more to the point LOST side of the ledger?
Title: Today in history...
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 30, 2004, 11:25:33 AM
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Originally posted by Creamo
The AH O'Club now sucks.

It isn't a AH flightsim bbs forum alternative/choice for sharing anything other than gameplay issues, it's just a bunch of trolls, and a political mess.


The funny thing is that Skuzzy could make it all go away by giving the boot to about 5 people.

Schitenmyfries - hope youre the first bud. :aok
Title: Today in history...
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 30, 2004, 11:29:21 AM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Yeah, why don't you go tell him why you left?


And the second.  Come on in - all of ya!  :aok
Title: Today in history...
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on April 30, 2004, 11:39:21 AM
The French left Vietnam. Get it? They screwed it up and left. You said it. Figure it out.

As far as the win:loss thing goes, I guess when you don't stand up and fight for anything, you don't lose any fights. Go figure.
Title: Today in history...
Post by: Torque on April 30, 2004, 11:43:08 AM
"It was in fact military action by the U.S. that practically forced North Vietnam to the table, and into the agreement the U.S. offered. Not the other way around."

Yeah blowing the watermelon out of a bunch of civillians
Title: Today in history...
Post by: FUNKED1 on April 30, 2004, 11:45:04 AM
We'd like to thank England and Norway and Canada for all their help in repelling the PRVN's invasion of the RVN.  WTG allies.  :rolleyes:
Title: Today in history...
Post by: -MZ- on April 30, 2004, 11:46:07 AM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar

Schitenmyfries - hope youre the first bud. :aok


It ain't going to be him.  Look at the venom being spewed in his direction.
Title: Today in history...
Post by: AKCasca on April 30, 2004, 11:46:32 AM
I have to agree with Creamo, the O club is now the official residence of **** Sticks.

:: outta here ::
Title: Today in history...
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on April 30, 2004, 11:54:00 AM
"Those who are unwilling to study history are doomed to repeat
it."

I'll be flying over the weekend in MA - you boys are welcome to take it out on me in the sky.....in game nic is Schaden...........
Title: Today in history...
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on April 30, 2004, 11:57:49 AM
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Originally posted by Torque
"It was in fact military action by the U.S. that practically forced North Vietnam to the table, and into the agreement the U.S. offered. Not the other way around."

Yeah blowing the watermelon out of a bunch of civillians



Whatever you say. War is war, you often must bomb the country you are at war with, since it is the country that supplies the war machine. But whatever you do, don't let logic cloud your vision.
Title: Today in history...
Post by: AKIron on April 30, 2004, 12:00:27 PM
We have John Kerry (among others) to thank for that.
Title: Today in history...
Post by: FUNKED1 on April 30, 2004, 12:03:36 PM
Kerry should celebrate with a big rally with Jane Fonda and Rene Gonzalez.
Title: Today in history...
Post by: -MZ- on April 30, 2004, 12:07:54 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
We have John Kerry (among others) to thank for that.


If only more people had been sent to die it would have turned out OK, right?
Title: Today in history...
Post by: FUNKED1 on April 30, 2004, 12:09:05 PM
If only the people doing the dying didn't have their hands tied behind their back by politicians whoring for votes from ultra melons like Kerry.
Title: Today in history...
Post by: VOR on April 30, 2004, 12:14:27 PM
Schadenfreude and GSholtz,

Ya know, I can't help but get the funny feeling you're trying to upset people intentionally. Did somebody here hurt you? ;)

GS, I am especially surprised at you. You always seemed to me to be the kind of guy that does his homework and presents arguments in a rational way.

Everyone (myself included) seems to be foaming at the mouth around here lately.

Can anyone post a link to an alternate bbs forum without all the biting? Is there such a thing?
Title: Today in history...
Post by: Torque on April 30, 2004, 12:38:22 PM
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Whatever you say. War is war, you often must bomb the country you are at war with, since it is the country that supplies the war machine. But whatever you do, don't let logic cloud your vision.


Oh the Irony of your statement.
Title: Today in history...
Post by: straffo on April 30, 2004, 12:48:23 PM
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
We were there because the French screwed it up to begin with and then ran.


And you screwed more than we can have dreamed off ...
And you ran away too :aok


So where is your point exactly with this kind of sentence ?
Except bashing and showing your complete ignorance ?
Title: Today in history...
Post by: WilldCrd on April 30, 2004, 12:56:01 PM
always the same thing from the frenchie's and certain other euro's

Americans we hate u u stink your no good!............oh Americans we LOVE you! here drink our wine, eat our food PLEASURE our women!!...........Americans we hate you ect. ect. ect....{well except for the french women they still love american men}
Title: Today in history...
Post by: Skuzzy on April 30, 2004, 12:58:47 PM
This started out bad, and has not improved.  It seems it is just getting people angry.