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Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Steve on May 04, 2004, 01:28:02 PM
Flew 1 fighter sortie last night and managed 7 assists.  That has to be a personal best for me.  Anyone else ever been bitten harder by the assist bug?  Ouch!
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Sikboy on May 04, 2004, 01:29:15 PM
What plane?

-Sik
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Steve on May 04, 2004, 01:33:15 PM
D pony... but heck I'm not particular
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Tarmac on May 04, 2004, 01:35:33 PM
I've had some craptastic vulches in a 109g2 (1x20mm) that probably got into the 7 assist range.  

Frustrating as hell.
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: DoctorYO on May 04, 2004, 01:48:52 PM
Steve should fly the 109f4 in the main..

Good luck keeping 4 cannon dweebery off your falling, flaming, tailess carcass that you just made 4 passes at to finally chop his tail off......

109 = assist master unless you sport gondolas or the 30.

1 vs 1 thats a whole another story with the 109..  :p

I broke down last tour and flew the butcher A8, It never felt so good to be bad...

Fight fire with fire..



DoctorYO
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Morpheus on May 04, 2004, 01:51:00 PM
Fly a P38 and aim for the skull;)
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Howitzer on May 04, 2004, 03:01:45 PM
Had 5 in a 262 last tour  :aok    Now thats bad luck.
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Pooh21 on May 04, 2004, 03:14:06 PM
Vulching with a 109 is a no go here. Biggest waste of ammo in the game.
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: kj714 on May 04, 2004, 03:15:29 PM
Ahh, I like flying the 202 just cause it's so much fun to fly. But getting kills? Better not have anyone else around, cause it takes a while for the 202 to finish 'em off. I've been in that assist range before with it.
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: 2stony on May 04, 2004, 03:29:04 PM
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cause it takes a while for the 202 to finish 'em off


     I'll co-sign that! I had a 202 on my F4F's arse at about 250 out and he was hitting me all over. I got away with minor damage and managed to land my kills over a sector away.

:D
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Steve on May 04, 2004, 03:36:47 PM
WTG Tarmac.


Geez, Howitzer.. it would be tough to get 5 assists in a 262 on purpose.  LOL
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Tarmac on May 04, 2004, 03:41:02 PM
Having a craptastic run of assists is somehow an accomplishment?  Heh, you must be one of those "the glass is 1/32 full" guys.  :)
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Murdr on May 04, 2004, 04:34:26 PM
lol steve.  Not to be a 1ups-man, but i distinctly remember having a flight with 6 consecutive assists, for  a total of 3 kills 8 assists, and it wasnt even vulching.
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: kj714 on May 04, 2004, 04:36:22 PM
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Originally posted by 2stony
I'll co-sign that! I had a 202 on my F4F's arse at about 250 out and he was hitting me all over. I got away with minor damage and managed to land my kills over a sector away.

:D


Yeah, with a 202, it can't just spray n pray. You gotta get em turning and pick nme to pieces on things like wingtips
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Halo on May 04, 2004, 04:38:36 PM
Consider all those assists like a brave counting coup.  Just showing you were there and coulda terminated them.
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Overlag on May 04, 2004, 05:11:26 PM
while im not to botherd with assists, there are some that really P*** me off... for instance today, i came up on a lonely P51B, while flying my Spit9 (IM SORRY! lol). I opened up at 200-300 with my cannons only, the right cannon hit the right wing, and the left cannon hit the tail. Both fell off, and the plane then blew up.....

Assist on goose something or other. I mean HOW THE F***?
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: kj714 on May 04, 2004, 05:21:05 PM
The 51B flew with much honor, Lag-son. The Spit, well...........
At least you admitted you were in it.:D

Poor Goose probably survived a great fight only to fall to the spitflower.
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: mars01 on May 04, 2004, 05:28:08 PM
Yeah fly with friggn slap.:D
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Steve on May 04, 2004, 06:25:44 PM
Sounds like my luck last night Murdr!

As for the 1 upsmanship..don't sweat it.. that's what the thread is for.  :)
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: SELECTOR on May 04, 2004, 07:04:26 PM
p51b is a good assist plane.. normal for me if i get 2 kill i have 2 assists aswell
Title: Re: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 04, 2004, 07:19:02 PM
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Originally posted by Steve
Flew 1 fighter sortie last night and managed 7 assists.  That has to be a personal best for me.  Anyone else ever been bitten harder by the assist bug?  Ouch!


Oh yea. Ive done that several times. Most recently the other day.
It ouched even worse cause several of those assists are on specific pilts I want/ed to get kills on.

Personally I think you should get at least something in the way of points for assists.
 One time I was in a tiffy and spotted 4 planes hot on the tail of another countrymen. I slid in behind em and they were so busy racing each other to get the kill on the one guy none checked their 6.
I came in and nailed all 4 one after another.
End result 1 kill and 3 assists
Landed, looked at score.
I was not pleased.
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: opus on May 04, 2004, 10:19:34 PM
Nah, I've never gotten assists after blowing off a planes wing and having a LW come by and spray it as its tumbling to the ground - must just be you, Steve :p

Don't puff out your chest - just kidding :)
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Roscoroo on May 05, 2004, 03:11:16 AM
12 assists in a d11 jug ... I was a winging them and the horde was blowing them up for me  :)
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Kweassa on May 05, 2004, 03:42:53 AM
Hands-down, the assist meister are the 109s, w/o MK108, w/o gondies. It's a great useful plane for point defence, immediate air coverage and when there are multiple 109s around one really notices how much defending becomes easier.

 But the damn frickin' armament usually means that the 109s will work their prettythang off to bring higher planes down to deck levels, where either the La-7s or Spits are waiting to finish the enemy off, depending on whether the target decides to turn or to run - whichever case, the 109 rarely gets to kill anything.

 I think the highest assists I got was about 9 in a G-10.
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Tilt on May 05, 2004, 05:20:32 AM
Lethality of the lavochkin 3 cannon set compared to its 2 cannon set always seems more than the 50% extra implied by the No. of cannon............. but it could be just me certainly my assist rate shoots up when flying the La5FN compared to the La7........... particularly  when shooting at heavy stuff.............

Yet the Yak 9U with only one such cannon and a 12.7 mg whilst having less rounds seems  to produce a higher ratio of kills to assists when I fly it.


How many folk actually know their convergence setting each time they choose a ride?
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: lazs2 on May 05, 2004, 07:46:27 AM
I fly the FM2 and the yak... I probly have more assists than anyone short of a dedicated 202 user.

lazs
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: keyapaha on May 05, 2004, 02:04:27 PM
I had 9 assist flying the A6M2 then I ran out of bullets.:)
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Halo on May 05, 2004, 03:34:59 PM
Tilt, what does convergence have to do with the Russian nose guns?  No wing guns there, right?
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: TequilaChaser on May 05, 2004, 04:02:01 PM
contrary to somes belief, convergence affects nose mounted guns ( mainly cannons over machine guns) in the neighbor hodd of  50 to 75 , meaning if you set machine guns in the nose at 500 you would need to set the cannons 50 to 75 further out to hit at 500 with the machine guns,  I have tested this theory with Yaks, La7's p38's  so I would assume it would be the same for the FW's and 109's as well and al other nose/cowl mounted gunned planes.

The distance of convergence is not as substantial between 200 to 500 but over 500 it starts to grow. Most people that say convergence does not matter have prob gotten used to the way they aim and are not really looking at the distance counter at all, but are honed in on the sweet spot by the way the size of the target looks when they pull the trigger! :)
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Lizard3 on May 05, 2004, 07:07:55 PM
I think its some sort of server overload. Last night I hit a spit V at d400 and less 3 times with P47's 8 .50's. No damage....none.  On the 4th, he blew up in flames. Happens to me all the time. I'm the assist king.

Funny though, when I went to the con a few years back things died like I do usually. ping pang BOOM!
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: VWE on May 06, 2004, 10:18:44 AM
Almost 2 weeks back I landed 8 assists in a B-model pony, very next mission I upped a 262 and landed 6 kills... I don't like to share. :D
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Tilt on May 06, 2004, 10:27:15 AM
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Originally posted by Halo
Tilt, what does convergence have to do with the Russian nose guns?  No wing guns there, right?


Re Lavochkins I often wonder..............

If you set them very long then the shells should never be more than 400mm apart (in theory). If you set them very short then after the sweet spot they begin to diverge wider and wider.........

However many an AH la pilot will still fuss over a setting somewhere between 250 and 400.


My comment re convergence was a generic one unrelated to my observations re yaks and lavochkins
Title: re:tilt
Post by: Teebone on May 06, 2004, 01:18:38 PM
I know my convergence every time i get in a plane bcause i set them all to the same thing.;)
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 06, 2004, 04:02:10 PM
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Originally posted by Lizard3


Funny though, when I went to the con a few years back things died like I do usually. ping pang BOOM!


Be happy. least you get a ping pang. Some of us just get BOOM
LOL
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 06, 2004, 07:39:42 PM
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Originally posted by Murdr
lol steve.  Not to be a 1ups-man, but i distinctly remember having a flight with 6 consecutive assists, for  a total of 3 kills 8 assists, and it wasnt even vulching.



Hehe and his assist rates goes up when I'm around since I usually end up steal my squaddies kill


ack-ack
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: dfl8rms on May 06, 2004, 10:29:07 PM
I usually get more assists in the 9t than the 9u due to the fact that it only take 1 hit from the 9t to bring a plane down, but some other person could put 50 rounds in and not damage them.
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: Sixpence on May 06, 2004, 10:59:33 PM
Flew a 202 a few times, it's an assist machine.
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: wklink on May 08, 2004, 01:47:56 PM
Suprised no one mentioned the KI 61.  

Beautiful plane, love to fly it, might as well be firing Nerf balls at them for all the good it seems to do me.
Title: 7 assists in 1 sortie
Post by: VWE on May 08, 2004, 02:52:39 PM
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Flew a 202 a few times, it's an assist machine.


I've landed 7 kills in said assist machine... its the pilot, more so than the plane. :D