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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: GRUNHERZ on May 05, 2004, 12:55:12 AM
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You AH liberals pay my AH subscription for the next year.
Any takers? Who will start the pool?
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Is'nt it illegal to sell your vote? I'm telling.
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Originally posted by NUKE
Is'nt it illegal to sell your vote? I'm telling.
Ur just upset you didnt think of it first! ;)
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Careful or Udie will get you.
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When I lived in NYC I used to take this apathetic guy I worked with out to lunch on voting days and made him vote for who I wanted.
It was goofy fun.... I felt like the Chinese.
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Originally posted by Nash
When I lived in NYC I used to take this apathetic guy I worked with out to lunch on voting days and made him vote for who I wanted.
It was goofy fun.... I felt like the Chinese.
maybe that's why God sent the crows after you.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
You AH liberals pay my AH subscription for the next year.
Any takers? Who will start the pool?
If you live on the East Coast I'll gladly pay for a night's worth of excessive drinking with the condition that you DON'T vote for Kerry.
How's that?
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But I dont vote amnyway, so nothing is required to make me not vote for Kerry.
However if you want me to actually vote, and then on top of that vote for Kerry well I'm gonna need an incentive.
So are there any takers? Who is gonna contribute to a years worth of AH for Grunherz so I go vote for Kerry?
Who will start the pool?
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It would be enough if you voted at all.
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Originally posted by Sandman
It would be enough if you voted at all.
Can I put you down for a month?
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If you vote for me, I'll lease you my VP for a month.
-SW
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
If you vote for me, I'll lease you my VP for a month.
-SW
I have my own gerbil, thank you...
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How about for some lufftwaffe models?
:D :rofl
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Perhaps, but only my VP has been taught by SOB... and survived.
-SW
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Yeah, like your one vote for Kerry will make a difference in the sea of Kerry votes that swamps Bush.
Go ahead, vote Bush and pay yer own AH subscription. And brace for the Kerry SOTU speech.
And you bastard.... you just ate my sammich. You are cold.
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Originally posted by MrCoffee
How about for some lufftwaffe models?
:D :rofl
LOL :)
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Can I put you down for a month?
Vote any way you like, but vote and you can put me down for a month.
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Originally posted by Nash
Yeah, like your one vote for Kerry will make a difference in the sea of Kerry votes that swamps Bush.
Go ahead, vote Bush and pay yer own AH subscription. And brace for the Kerry SOTU speech.
And you bastard.... you just ate my sammich. You are cold.
Weak!!! Put you money where your mouth is you Kerry lubber!!! ;)
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Originally posted by Sandman
Vote any way you like, but vote and you can put me down for a month.
I'll take that.
Only 11 months to go!!!
Who's next?
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This is sheer Genius, Grun. And for anyone with money to throw around, I'll take cash to NOT vote for Kerry or to NOT vote for Bush. 'Course, I won't be voting for either of them anyhow, but... err, maybe I shouldn't have revealed that last part. DAMN!
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That vote has already been paid for in blood, tens if not hundreds of thousands of times over.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
That vote has already been paid for in blood.
So you in or out? Or are you Canadians all talk?
Cmon only 11 months to go!! What's US $15 each to 11 angry anti-bush liberals?
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It's more like 7 months Grun, or are you predicting another Supreme Court fiasco of an election?
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Originally posted by Nash
It's more like 7 months Grun, or are you predicting another Supreme Court fiasco of an election?
I meant a full calendar year, a full 12 months. Sorry for any confusion.
One down 11 months to go!
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I would post a list of 10 things in favor of Bush for a 6 month deal. :D
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Both parties already buy votes. There should be nothing wrong with being honest about it. Unfortunately for me to vote for either one of the current candidates it will cost them more then an AH subscription.
The “ballot” is manipulated by the various “political machines”, special interests and other such cliques whose interests appear to be contrary to the good of the country as a whole. The people put up for office are usually so mediocre that no citizen of wisdom or character would care to be represented by any one of them.
Voting is pointless. Granted I will see numerous replies stating that the “vote = freedom”; “use it or lose it”…
However, giving the idea that we are free because we have the ballot is nothing less then fraud. This “feeling of freedom” has engendered a means by which our essential “slavery” is hid from our eyes and thus more securely fastened upon our backs. Behind this camouflage is a “Plutocracy”, one of the nastiest and basest of all forms of government.
One of the most demoralizing results of our “democracy” is its dissipation of responsibility. When a law derives from a king or an aristocracy the king or the nobles have to stand for it before the Nation. They are held accountable for their failures. This “responsibility” creates a restraining and steady influence as inescapable as it is socially valuable. Or else the consequence could mean revolution. The kings and nobles would know that in the long run the very continuance of their position and their rule depends upon their providing such government as to command the confidence of the “people”.
We can see that under the ballot system “responsibility” itself has become so comminuted and dispersed that there is hardly any of it left. The fragments of it are shifted so easily and plausibly from one man’s shoulders to another’s that it cannot be successfully laid on anyone. Power without responsibility is ruinous to all good government.
There are also those that equate the vote with the right to free expression. Not voting itself is an example of free expression. But I am not one who worships at the alter of “free speech”. There are many vital issues and problems affecting the welfare of the nation upon which the average Oprah watcher has no right to be heard. The average US citizen has trouble explaining our basic election process yet they are given an equal voice in the discussion of solutions. Whenever any “upstart” with overweening presumption, ventures to air his opinions, it would be better for all concerned, and ultimately better for him, if a hot rod were laid across his back, at least he be laughed off his soap box.
Generations of belief in “free-speech” and “free-press” have made every little loudmouth and want-to-be editor an oracle and at the ready to diagnose the evils of an economic and political system, and to advise remedies.
The learned citizens will express convictions that have behind them their best thought and ripest experience over periods of 30 or 40 years, and children in their teens, who have not given such ideas as much as 30 minutes consideration in their entire lives stand up and contradict them..
I have said before not all opinions are of equal value. “Democracy” as I have come to see it is always loose-tongued, loud-mouthed, and weak minded.
It tends to produce a society of chattering magpies..
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The biggest joke is that since the vote is private, Grun can get the money, SAY he voted for Kerry, but actually voted for Bush :D
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Nonono....the biggest joke is that he is not even old enough to vote :D
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
But I dont vote amnyway, so nothing is required to make me not vote for Kerry.
However if you want me to actually vote, and then on top of that vote for Kerry well I'm gonna need an incentive.
So are there any takers? Who is gonna contribute to a years worth of AH for Grunherz so I go vote for Kerry?
Who will start the pool?
muhehehee sniff sniff .. somebody run out of mickey mouse money here :D
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Nash... if you buy me lunch I will tell you that I am going to vote for whoever yu want... even that football playing herman munster guy.
The only way the dems could do worse with women is to get kerry to grow a mustache.
lazs
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
But I dont vote amnyway, so nothing is required to make me not vote for Kerry.
how typical. one of the most opinionated guys in the room doesn't vote.
you know I'll pass on certain sections of the ballot. maybe their electing for an office and I don't know anything about either candidate(I will not just vote party lines). or there is an issue up that I am uninformed about.
I'm not sure whether to laugh or pity our country when I see people who go around spouting their opinion yet wont get off their prettythang and vote.
btw-selling your vote makes you no less of a potato than a woman selling her self.
(personal attacks aren't usually my thing but your statements in this thread disgust me, Grun)
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
You AH liberals pay my AH subscription for the next year.
Any takers? Who will start the pool?
Kerry is going to beat Bush by a wide margin in Caulifornia anyway. You should move to a contested state to sweeten the offer.
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lol grun cannot vote, damn illegal aliens.
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
how typical. one of the most opinionated guys in the room doesn't vote.
The two are highly corrolated, I've seen and learned far too much about how politics really work to bother voting....
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Originally posted by StabbyTheIcePic
lol grun cannot vote, damn illegal aliens.
Oh I can vote, I have been a naturalized citizen for almost ten years now and have been a registered voter since I was 18... But I choose not to.
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Grab a cup of coffe follow the worlds rotation and watch the idiots going around :)
It is good fun, and dont hurt anyone :D
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You all do realize that Grun is exercising his right not to vote. I have yet to see:
1) 100% of those eligible to register actually register.
2) 100% of those registered actually vote.
He has his reasons for not voting, as is his right.
He has reasons to criticize and speak his mind as is his right.
Get over it and move on, sheesh.
Oh btw, I do vote.
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lol airguard :D
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Kerry knows nothing about economics, neither does Bush, either way you vote, you're screwed. But I guess it doesn't matter, most seem to think an actor from California(and a bad actor) was the best economist of the 20th century.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Kerry knows nothing about economics, neither does Bush, either way you vote, you're screwed. But I guess it doesn't matter, most seem to think an actor from California(and a bad actor) was the best economist of the 20th century.
Yes the best president would a dour university economics professor..... He would make everyting right!!!! :rolleyes:
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yep.. California will go with kerry... that should be enough warning for everyone but... people are pretty stupid and some will vote with the women for kerry anyway.
lazs
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Yes the best president would a dour university economics professor..... He would make everyting right!!!! :rolleyes:
No, but instead of increasing our debt, he would work to reduce it.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
No, but instead of increasing our debt, he would work to reduce it.
Really? Do all economists agree? But obviously it's the only issue that matters!!!
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Really? Do all economists agree? But obviously it's the only issue that matters!!!
Well, what matters the most to you?
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Well, what matters the most to you?
Prolly business recovery in the near term.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Prolly business recovery in the near term.
So, the economy?
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Originally posted by Sixpence
So, the economy?
That particular aspect of the economy.
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how bout a nationwide movement of young women who will "take one for Kerry?"