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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: 68DevilM on May 06, 2004, 07:01:36 AM
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just wondering at what point do you quit playing ah. because your bored with the same old same old.
like the game still but lately ive been in a slump, and the fun has seem to have left, mabey i need a break.
what do you venterens think, ever get tired of playing and want to quit, what makes you stick around?:o
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Jump in a vehicle for a while, find a different aspect than flying for a while.. You'll see how the hunger comes back for flying..
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Hmm, "..same old same old..", do something different. Fly a different plane, fight a different fight or just do some totally silly stuff. Bottomline, if it ain't fun....don't do it :).
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Its summer, go out, BBQ, get drunk, get laid etc etc...
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Discover the terror of trying to win through embattled sky's with an anarmed C-47.
Grab a new challenging plane and stick with it till you master it.
Tanks, lvts, boats all can be fun at times.
Last but most inportant.
Find a squadron of like minded pilots.
People that you get to know, share your life with, etc.
A good squad is a lot like a good marriage.
The sum is more than the whole of its parts.
Find a way to "give some back" to AH & the community. Small & subtle or huge like mapping (fester).
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Originally posted by Maniac
Its summer, go out, BBQ, get drunk, get laid etc etc...
Above always represents a good option.. hehe
Burn out comes and goes. Beyond all the glory though.. Beyond landing all the kills.. Fun for me comes from flying with my squad. Those guys are awesome.. I doubt that your learning curve has found it's peak so there are still things to learn and do. Find some new folks to fly with. Learn from them. Or simply fly a different plane. Burn out comes and goes... 8)
dude
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Try the Combat Theater for a change, if the MA gets boring. And participate in events (http://events.hitechcreations.com/) like Snapshots and CAP...
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
just wondering at what point do you quit playing ah. because your bored with the same old same old.
like the game still but lately ive been in a slump, and the fun has seem to have left, mabey i need a break.
what do you venterens think, ever get tired of playing and want to quit, what makes you stick around?:o
Was real tired of the game, then I had a stroke. It's all a challenge again, though this is probably not a solution I'd recommend for everyone:)
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Go play in the CT, I've all but abandoned the MA except to say 'hello'...
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It's all about P40 B's. There's nothing quite as exciting as being gangbanged by 20 rooks in La7's in a P40 B and you still take out 4 of em!
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
just wondering at what point do you quit playing ah. because your bored with the same old same old.
like the game still but lately ive been in a slump, and the fun has seem to have left, mabey i need a break.
what do you venterens think, ever get tired of playing and want to quit, what makes you stick around?:o
In the past 10 years of online sim flying I have took around 3 to 4 sabaticcals, most for just a few months but 1 was dang near a year long, I would drop in a few times, but mainly stayed away because of being burnt out, did more outdoor activities, etc....
As NB said, if it ain't fun don't bother, also everyone seems to get yancy for some summer fun and less people fly during the summer months, but they/we all come back home :) when Fall time starts rolling around........
And it is the friendships and online community that keeps alot of old timers around!
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1 word for you- SQUADRON
its the people not the planes that make me come back
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Well I dont concider myself a "venteren" by any sense of the word. Im comming up on 3 years here and still learn new things nearly every day.
I think the search for all things new is what keeps the game alive for me. It isn't all of it but its a bigger part.
I dont think there is a person in the game that knows it all. I know there are some that think they do but thats a different story. For that simple fact, the thrill of learning is what is fun. And then aplying it to the game and how you play it. (what you learnd that is) Every plane is different in its own way. Every GV is different. There is always something you can learn.
There have been many nights where I would log off and I said to myself, "self, wtf are you playing this game for?!" Then i answer my self i say... "self, its a game! Have fun and stfu!"
It all comes down to these few simple words: The game is what you make of it.
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thanks guys ill trygoing back to gv's for a while. im already in a good sqaud so thats not the problem, just tyred of the furballs, hoing ect.
hmm could be last couple of maps depressing me too:)
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
There have been many nights where I would log off and I said to myself, "self, wtf are you playing this game for?!" Then i answer my self i say... "self, its a game! Have fun and stfu!"
hmm sure morph, we all do it.
its ok.
really.
it is.
:D
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Flyboy :)
The game is just a game it will never be more than just a game.
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There have been many nights where I would log off and I said to myself, "self, wtf are you playing this game for?!" Then i answer my self i say... "self, its a game! Have fun and stfu!"
ROFLMAD!!! SIG MATERIAL!!! :D
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Build you one of those flight sims you sit in.......
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I have flow online sim about 4 years now, and AH was my first;).
The diffrent online flight sim have there own + & -, but why many off stick around is moustly the squad you are in or the communety.
For me the highlight is speciel events, not the MA. I hardly fly MA anymore. But maybee moust off us who have been along for some years comes to a stop some times and need a break;).
HTC have done a great work with the game the last 4 years I have been around here, but the last 1 1/2 year other sims have come up with huge grapich and damage/structur detail improvment who give a sim more realisme and fun. But ofcourse you cant have great grapich etc. and 700 in the same room playing without getting lagg.
I think there is room for both this type off sim, like AH and IL2/FB etc. Who have there diffrent aspect of fronting the game.
AH:
+ Closer communety
+ Multi players up to 700 in the same room
+ Plane types
+ Boats, tanks etc.
+ Outstanding vocie communicaten.
- Grapich
- Damage models
IL2/FB:
+ Outstanding grapich
+ Outstanding sound
+ Outstanding detailed damage models.
- Multi playes, max at 32 players.
- No Speciel events
- No inbuilt voice communication, it have one but it sucks...;)
- You loose some off the communety of the pilots since you dont fly with so many at the same time.
Ok probely more + & - on both to add, but this was what came up;)
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If you think there is anything that is more important than a good furball you will burn out. there is nothing better than the fight. The rest is simplistic and a waste of time. The only changing challenge is the fur.. The rest is simple to attract players but... it is also the failing of strat.. once you realize that it is all for nothing and that the only real strat is "the side with the most numbers wins" you are left with no game... and, since you never learned to fight... no options.
Furballs are ever changing. Furballs are their own reward. They are not for those who are insecure and have to have recognition but.. If you are good... it is simply known.. if you are not very good you can't game your way into looking better.
If you want to burn out then worry about the so called strat.
lazs
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You should start a series lazs, "the zen of fur". ;)
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yep... think about it...
Who is gonna burn out first? The guy who lives for the furball or..
the guy who types all in caps "JOIN THE MISSUN NOW!!!!!!!!!" "we are flying heavy ftyphies at 25 k to hit the fuel at an undefended base 4 sectors away!!! help your country!! we are losing the war!!!!"" "come on guys, should be a good missun and not takle over an hour."
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
If you think there is anything that is more important than a good furball you will burn out. there is nothing better than the fight. The rest is simplistic and a waste of time. The only changing challenge is the fur.. The rest is simple to attract players but... it is also the failing of strat.. once you realize that it is all for nothing and that the only real strat is "the side with the most numbers wins" you are left with no game... and, since you never learned to fight... no options.
Furballs are ever changing. Furballs are their own reward. They are not for those who are insecure and have to have recognition but.. If you are good... it is simply known.. if you are not very good you can't game your way into looking better.
If you want to burn out then worry about the so called strat.
lazs
That is the most clear and concise description of how I view AH, I could not have worded it better. If you notice, the guys around here that were in AW, and I mean the old DOS AW, that have been flying forever follow that path also.
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In dos AW... you knew that if you fought enough hard fights or simply died enough times you would eventually get good enough to hold your own...
Nothing has changed except the attitude.
Strat is a good place to hide and pretend that you aren't interested in doing well in a good fight. When the lie finally hits you... you are burnt out.. you have no joy in toolshed killing and you haven't learned how to put up a decent fight... you can follow the horde and you probly won't get slaughtered but... While you are trying to figure out what to do about those three cons below who are outnumbered 6 to 1,... the guys with some skill have killed the only 3 cons and have left.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
In dos AW... you knew that if you fought enough hard fights or simply died enough times you would eventually get good enough to hold your own...
Nothing has changed except the attitude.
More of less I find the same thing in AH, its just harder to wade through all the building battlers to find those other guys that think want to fight. When you do find them it makes it all worth it. One good sortie in a furball can make my night.
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You still can burn out from the massive dog fights, furballs, etc.... especially if you fly alot more than the average player.
If you flew Dos and early days of what was it? SVGA AW4W you also got burnt on the cost :D and some old un's have ended up like me and got an expensive divorce out of it :lol
edited: But I still live long for the sweaty palms type fights, to me thats the reward!
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Yup it was SVGA Air Warrior for DOS circa '93. When I started playing AW I didnt have a local node with GEnie so combined with the long distance and the hourly rate I paid $14 an HOUR[/b]!! Needless to say, I am not overly sympathetic when I hear folks squeal "I PAY MY $15 A MONTH, AND I DEMAND THAT YOU HOLD MY HAND FOR ME!!"
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compared to most of you guys, im like a two week free trial guy. i have been playing AH since just before christmas 2003.
But i think already i can relate to the furball lovers. personaly i cant stand using a whole tank of gas and only finding one person that doesnt run or ho. rtb fuel sucks. rtb ammo is cool
when i see 20-30 planes twisting and turning in a 1/2 mile area i know for sure i will get the chance to shoot at 5 planes a minute and be shot at by twice as many. for what it is worth,IMHO, AH would have a more elite and select comunity if you got rid of the Golly-geen base captures all together:aok
for me, its simple. i live for the messages:
SYSTEM: You shot down pilot-X #X
and:
SYSTEM: pilot-X shot you down
and:
SYSTEM: Mechanic landed 4 kills in plane-X of squad-X
and:
SYSTEM: pilot-X that shot you down landed 4 kills in plane-x of squad-X
and finaly:
Mechanic: WTG pilot-X good fight
Pilot-X: ty mech good fight sir
so next time you fight someone, dont say, 'your in a plane-x dweb ride loser freak', 'get a mans plane', 'fight me equally next time alt monkey', 'you ho'ing SOB', 'nice ram a-hole' ,etc etc etc, blah blah blah boring boring boring...drone drone donre...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaargh
SHUT UP
just say 'nice kill' or ' pilot-X' or at the very least 'lol, that was fuct up man'
hahahahha a two week newbie setting guidlines
what ever next:rofl
noble foe and friends
all whiners and beatches
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ROFLMFAO!
Mechanic bro you crack me up!
I love it!
A very daring post here in the world of how stongly so many feel the game should be played. Dam lol... I still got a smile on my face from reading your post. You are thinking exactly as I was and for the most part still am. The only difference is it took me a year or so to get to the state of mind that you are at.
Although I do disagree with you on some of what you said.
I used to run missions, huge missions for the bish. I loved bish. I still do like them for the most part. Somewhere along the lines, and I dont know where or how, either I grew apart from the bishops ways or the bish seemed to change as a country. I think it was the first now that I look back on it.
It can become very stressful, trying to take bases and win a reset. Its at that point when you let the game get the better of you and it no longer is a game anymore. It turns into something more. Which sadly it should not be. As a whole, the fun is gone when things start going sour. Bases that are planed to be captured are not, missions that you set up and plane fall apart. There are just too many variables to have to deal with that most peole dont want to nor care about dealing with.
Some like to win the war, and sure its fun. But logging into the game everysingle day and devoting your every moment on line to winning this reset, the fun of the game is lost. I think it will be very difficult for most to disagree with me on that.
Point being, mix it up! Do a fighter run, do a jabo run, hop into a GV, take a bomber up and set up your own little mission... Make the most of your 15 bucks. Do all that stuff ever day or every time you log on and the game may not become more of a "thrill" for you.
Personaly, I know what its like to get worn out flying fighters and doing nothing else. If you fly fighters and nothing but, before long it will be all that the game is to you and shortly there after you WILL get burnt out.
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morph.. no way can I bring myself to fly a jabo run or drive a GV... at my most bored... when there is no one on but toolshed battlers and fuel can killers... I might grab a field gun and kill a few... I can't do that for more than 10 minutes or so tho and the best time I ever had doing it was about a tenth as fun as the worst furball I have been in...
mechanic describes it well... the 20-30 plane furball stretching from the deck to say 6 k or so never fails to excite. I need lots of targets and the challenge of keeping track of a lot of action and flight models. If I am doing anything else I will sometimes auger if someone I know tells me where there is a good fur.
lazs
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It's all about the K/T ratio :D
Seriously...
If I (and I assume many of you) am not involved in as least one fight every 5-10 minutes it's becomes boring. I usually keep my K/T up around 12-13 which is better than 1 kill per 5 minutes of flying time! My best tour I had a 15.696!
I've burned out a number of times, as I've played since beta. Just keep paying your subscription and when you come back there will be new cool features for you to play with. In this case AHII.
And remember, always take females and friends over a game.
g00b
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The vast majority of guys I used to fly with over the hill that have moved on to something else were "historical" guys, events etc.
I was in a squad where I was usually the only one flying in the Main. I agree completely with lazs. There is NOTHING better than a good furball. It's always a challenge and I can ALWAYS do better. ( with the new stick setup I can DEFINATELY do better and if I don't pretty soon...the dogs dead )
The pilots that I knew, and am seeing in this game now, that long for something more than a damn good fight fade away.
Out of the 36 pilots in JG 2 'Richthofen' in WB there are only TWO still flying. Myself and Beaner on the other side.
The fight is what brought to me online sims, and the fight keeps me here. I don't need anything more than a damn good fight.
Tho PT boats are a blast on occasion..
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
just wondering at what point do you quit playing ah. because your bored with the same old same old.
like the game still but lately ive been in a slump, and the fun has seem to have left, mabey i need a break.
what do you venterens think, ever get tired of playing and want to quit, what makes you stick around?:o
It's a cycle...Alot of us have been flying these games for ten years or more, learning to balance the fun factor is half the game now. Anything in excess is not a good thing. Taking a break from time to time is always healthy. I also make sure to have another game, very dissimiliar to Aces High to play, such as Civilization III, or a good first person shooter. You'll know to take a break when Aces High starts feeling like a second job (or a first job if you're a Bishop ). If you start feeling like that, just take a week or two off, or play lightly flying in a style totally different than your usual using different aircraft.
Zazen
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I think quite a few people fly less when the weather starts getting nicer out also..then get back into it later on in the year..
Not a big deal, you can always come back if you want to. Keep it fun.
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Originally posted by nopoop
Out of the 36 pilots in JG 2 'Richthofen' in WB there are only TWO still flying. Myself and Beaner on the other side.
Come back to the dark side brother:D
Find a squadron of like minded pilots.
People that you get to know, share your life with, etc.
A good squad is a lot like a good marriage.
The sum is more than the whole of its parts.
This is what really got me hooked on this game. It was my first online game on my first computer, and I ran into a few great guys from the far corners of the world(from where I am). I evolved from my first squad to this one, and met another group of guys that I would do anything I could for. I somehow managed to get the CO position of a longtime flightsim community squad, after my friends suffered the burnout that so many seem to go through.
I have been lucky in the sense that a few guys have stuck with me, a few great guys that I sometimes spend more time talking to on vox, than I do flying in a night. This has made me stick with the squadron that I was handed.
I have an intimate realtionship with Aces High. It has caused arguments with me and my wife(I guess I'm alone in that one:p). It has enabled me to refocus my life by giving me an outlet at a time when I needed a distraction from what I was doing. It has given me a common ground with my father (who I got hooked on the game, but flies H2H) that supercedes even cars. (Turns out the old man is pretty good in H2H:D ) It has also givin me a impetus(sp?) for exploring the history of a time when many members of my family were in service of my country and contributed to what we currently as Americans have.
I've never really thought about what this 'game' has done for me, but I think that overall (addiction aside:D ), I am better off with it than I would be without it.
wore my damn keyboard out:D
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Originally posted by Lazerus
Come back to the dark side brother:D
This is what really got me hooked on this game. It was my first online game on my first computer, and I ran into a few great guys from the far corners of the world(from where I am). I evolved from my first squad to this one, and met another group of guys that I would do anything I could for. I somehow managed to get the CO position of a longtime flightsim community squad, after my friends suffered the burnout that so many seem to go through.
I have been lucky in the sense that a few guys have stuck with me, a few great guys that I sometimes spend more time talking to on vox, than I do flying in a night. This has made me stick with the squadron that I was handed.
I have an intimate realtionship with Aces High. It has caused arguments with me and my wife(I guess I'm alone in that one:p). It has enabled me to refocus my life by giving me an outlet at a time when I needed a distraction from what I was doing. It has given me a common ground with my father (who I got hooked on the game, but flies H2H) that supercedes even cars. (Turns out the old man is pretty good in H2H:D ) It has also givin me a impetus(sp?) for exploring the history of a time when many members of my family were in service of my country and contributed to what we currently as Americans have.
I've never really thought about what this 'game' has done for me, but I think that overall (addiction aside:D ), I am better off with it than I would be without it.
wore my damn keyboard out:D
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STFU moot, you dont qualify:p
When the F/ck ya comin back any ways? You're one of the ones I was talkin about, ya frnch flabberin, Arizona hippy:D
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ok found out what the problem was!
i was just playing too much literally, been playing since oct 2003 and at first it was just someting i did every once and a while but it soon became a addiction. really i would be on this damn comuter every chance i could and i burned myself out. so i took a couple days off and today was a little better, not to metion the map change helped out.
ps i think ht put something in this game to brainwash me into never quitiing.:eek:
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
ps i think ht put something in this game to brainwash me into never quitiing.:eek:
I've often wondered that:eek:
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I have never really liked AH gameplay - especially on small maps where the front is squeezed into a relative handful of bases. (AKDesert is much better in that respect)
I felt I was wasting too much time, so my solution is simply to boycott maps I don't like. I'm not asking anyone to follow suit, but I can tell you it makes a big difference. Play only on the maps you enjoy, ignore the others, and you'll enjoy this game much more.
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yep.. beet is on to something here.. I rarely fly the pizza sucks map but.. if there is a good fight I will log on and play it out till it is over and the map is one big blah of 25% fuel and long flights to nowhere to do nothing. Even a small map can be boring if it is some kind of "missun dooodz" mindset day wher it is 25% fuel and no dar and all the glass cv's have been sunk by mouse weilding suicide doodz.
log off when there is no good fights.
lazs
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
just wondering at what point do you quit playing ah. because your bored with the same old same old.
like the game still but lately ive been in a slump, and the fun has seem to have left, mabey i need a break.
what do you venterens think, ever get tired of playing and want to quit, what makes you stick around?:o
I had the same feeling mate, I have quit for about 2-3 months playing 1st person shooters etc. But after playing it for about 2 months, Aces High starts becoming pretty attractive again :)
Another good idea is to change the game play of aces high, Normally in h2h (where I play) you have ffa or team rooms, both becoming VERY bored.
What I did, I organize missions in h2h, varying from 4 vs 4 dogfighting at high alts (axis vs allies) with externals off, fuelburn to 1.5 and ask EVERYONE to disable ALL icons, so you can't see what plane everyone flies or at what distance they are. It's great fun cause it's hard to see who's friend or foe (only when chasing) and it's VERY realistic.
Also big bomber formations (4 pilots in B-17's with drones) in a tight formation vs a formation of fighter attackers without icons. Great fun!
Just stop by my room someday if you have time: Franks Coop Missions
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I think after a few months you gain some vacation time - just take a break :)