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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Tarmac on May 07, 2004, 02:02:28 AM
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Got into this argument tonight at the bar. Friend says that Roth "is Van Halen." I think Sammy's the man. He went as far as to say that "nobody likes Sammy." As I've never really discussed it before, I don't really know who "everybody" likes.
So let's hear it. Which one is better?
IMO, DLR is a tool who embodies everything crappy about 80's music.
Sammy's just a cool guy, and an excellent front man, and has a hell of a voice.
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Originally posted by Tarmac
Got into this argument tonight at the bar. Friend says that Roth "is Van Halen." I think Sammy's the man. He went as far as to say that "nobody likes Sammy." As I've never really discussed it before, I don't really know who "everybody" likes.
So let's hear it. Which one is better?
IMO, DLR is a tool who embodies everything crappy about 80's music.
Sammy's just a cool guy, and an excellent front man, and has a hell of a voice.
Niether, but i do enjoy the cabo waba.
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Sammy DLR Is a goofy tard. IMHO.
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If SRV never played in the band then it really musta sucked. :D
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I agree with the statement "Roth is Van Halen" to a degree (imho Eddie "is" VH).
But.... comparitively, I like Sammy better.
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Originally posted by Arlo
If SRV never played in the band then it really musta sucked. :D
True.
Or Robin Trower Or Alvin Lee and the list of really great guitarist goes on and on:D
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Tumor! Bro! Does "MrBendy" ring a bell? Just checkin. Some stories he told in a different virtual place sorta sounded like ya. :D
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MrBendy? No, aint me. Where?
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Originally posted by Tarmac
IMO, DLR is a tool who embodies everything crappy about 80's music.
Oh man I'm gonna get blasted for this.
VH is everything crappy about 80's music so DLR is the natural choice.
:p
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Well if it ain't you it don't matter none. But I guess I oughta tell ya or people will think it's some place quite kinky. One `o them Firefly forums. Well hell ... they're gonna think it's kinky anyway.
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Originally posted by Nash
Oh man I'm gonna get blasted for this.
VH is everything crappy about 80's music so DLR is the natural choice.
:p
LOL we might agree on something there Nash.:D
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I saw Van Halen with Sammy in 91 with Alice in Chains backing them up, it was a hell of a show. Sammy did a solo on acoustic that was good(where eagles fly). I never saw VH with DLR, so I couldn't compare the shows. But Eddie seemed to have peeked as a musician when he was with Sammy, I think OU812 is a great CD, so I would have to go with the red rocker.
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Van Hagar........................ ..aint Van Halen.
Both do good at what they do, but DLR is an integral part of Van Halen.
Ice Cream Man BABY!!!!!!!
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Paid 14 bucks for VH's eruption tour. Grade 4.
When we walked into the stadium, the door guy had a chuckle yelling over to his friends at the other doors "I better check these kids for bubble gum". They had a good laugh. When we got to our seats and pulled out our joints we had a good laugh too. :)
VH was all noodling and the splits. Kind of a waste of a night.
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Music wise I prefer DLR. So many of Hagar's songs in VH were all sappy love crap.
Why can't this be love
love walks in
When it's love
Humans Being rocks and sammy is cool. DLR seems like a real tool but I prefer the DLR version of the band.
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Sounds snobbish but once you have seen most of the great bands of the 70s all other pail in comparison.
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Originally posted by txmx
Sounds snobbish but once you have seen most of the great bands of the 70s all other pail in comparison.
Oh SO not true! You've just stopped.
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I like Sammy solo.
Van Hagar is OK.
But when ya talk Van Halen...
(http://www.driko.org/smallpics/davidleeroth.jpg)
Gotta
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Be
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DAVE!
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Originally posted by Lazerus
Van Hagar........................ ..aint Van Halen.
Both do good at what they do, but DLR is an integral part of Van Halen.
Ice Cream Man BABY!!!!!!!
second that
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Diamond Dave all the way! Hate hagar.
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DLR. First rock album I ever bought was 1984. Man I was cool that day ;)
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I hated van hagar until I saw them live in 87 at the monsters of rock tour. Live Van Hagar kicked Van Halen's ass. But as far as studio albums go I like Van Halen's music better. Both good singers and Hagar plays lead too but I like the way Dave sings on the earlier stuff better. He sounded like a guy having a fun time and it makes the music better.
Come on Dave give us a break
Hey hey hey! One break COOOOOMING UP!
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Diamond Dave made VH much more entertaining than Hagar could. There's just a huge streak of "sleeze" to DLR that made VH entertaining.
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I like both versions of VH but when you get people with personalities like EVH and DLR in the same band things dont last. Hell...when you get people like EVH in bands, bands dont last.
Again, I enjoy both incarnations but I guess the first two VH albums were the best, with the debut album "VanHalen" probably being one of the best and most influential albums of the the 70s-80s. If I had a choice I would prefer VH with DLR (but I dont have a choice so Ill listen to whichever makes good music).
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The ironic thing is that after the **** in the 90's I like DLR and SH better than EVH. Poor Micheal Anthony.....
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Okay, this discussion is simply going in circles, so lets get to another prescient musical debate. Was George Michael really the most talented half of Wham!? Or was Andrew Ridgeley simply never given a fair shot at solo superstardom?
(http://www.brielarson.com/wham.jpg)
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Diamond Dave was the best front man they ever had.
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Originally posted by Lance
Okay, this discussion is simply going in circles, so lets get to another prescient musical debate. Was George Michael really the most talented half of Wham!? Or was Andrew Ridgeley simply never given a fair shot at solo superstardom?
(http://www.brielarson.com/wham.jpg)
LMAO :lol
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Originally posted by Lance
Okay, this discussion is simply going in circles, so lets get to another prescient musical debate. Was George Michael really the most talented half of Wham!? Or was Andrew Ridgeley simply never given a fair shot at solo superstardom?
(http://www.brielarson.com/wham.jpg)
WHY DID YOU KNOW THE OTHER GUY FROM WHAM'S NAME!
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Udie is on to something.
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Anyone who knocks themselves in the head with a stick while attempting a martial arts move onstage during a performance is laughable. Nonetheless, Roth had the best songs, Hagar had the best attitude, and VH could continue with whatever frontman they used so long as there was chemistry with the group. Did anybody else notice how quickly Roth disappeared when he split? I think that's a fair indicator of where the musical talent was in that group.
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Originally posted by gofaster
Did anybody else notice how quickly Roth disappeared when he split?
And Sammy's solo career was pretty much over when they raised the speed limit to 70.
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Originally posted by gofaster
Did anybody else notice how quickly Roth disappeared when he split? I think that's a fair indicator of where the musical talent was in that group.
Actually, when DLR went solo, he had several hits (or close anyway, i.e. Yankee Rose), and his 1st solo album did quite well. In his day, DLR was the man. MUCH better front man than Hagar. Their old stuff, Van Halen 1, Diver Down, those albums were awesome. Much better stuff than OU812 Van Hagar. I HATED the song Right Now. (shudder)
I look at DLR NOW and he's an effete balding poof. He's so durn annoying that if I were locked in a room with him for any extended pierod of time, I would have to severly beat him.
In his day, DLR was the better of the 2 front men. He fediddlein' parachuted into a stadium for their first tour and landed on stage.
-Lute III/JG26 9th ST WidowMakers
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Van who?
They ceased being a good band when that hack Hackar took over.
Not that they were ever my fav, but I just can not stand SH.....
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There can be only one...
(http://www.nolifetilmetal.com/Images/vh_logobig.jpg)
1. Place "Women And Children First" in your CD player.
2. Turn the volume all the way up.
3. Enjoy!
PS - Kids, don't try this with any Van Hagar CD as your player will only spit it out onto the floor.
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I admit DLR is the biggest bellybutton in the world but if bands were popular based on personality Oasis would still be a garage band.
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Diamond Dave!! used to have a poster with the original Van Halen band They were all sitting on a tank with dave straddling the main gun We cut out the other members cause the caption at the bottom read : The Image of Van Halen
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BTW Van Hagar is back they are supposed to play in Dallas in june
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Diver Down is DLR's best album..
5150 is sammys best.... Imo
DLR is the Van halen i grew up on.. "Jump" "hot for teacher" etc... they jammed..
David Lee Roth is da man.. apparently so much so he cant get along with the catalyst of VanHalen which is Eddie.
Shame...
DoctorYO
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Originally posted by Arlo
Well if it ain't you it don't matter none. But I guess I oughta tell ya or people will think it's some place quite kinky. One `o them Firefly forums. Well hell ... they're gonna think it's kinky anyway.
Wow... I haven't even THOUGHT about Firefly since about 96. Thought it went away or something.
T.
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Also in Dallas this June one of the biggest concerts ion a long time.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/events/crossroads/