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Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: lazs2 on May 07, 2004, 09:48:30 AM
Scandium!   They had all the scandium and they weren't selling any to Smith and Wesson.

The Smith and Wesson 340 PD.... finally and excuse to own a 357 again.

lazs
Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: ra on May 07, 2004, 09:52:09 AM
How did they get all the Scandium away from the Scandinavians?
Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: lazs2 on May 07, 2004, 09:59:36 AM
some scandanavian discovered/proved it existed  the element but it was found to exist only in the former soviet union..

mixed with aluminum it makes a very strong and light alloy.   Scandium costs like $7,000 a pound.

lazs
Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: ra on May 07, 2004, 10:08:53 AM
They should have called it Sovium.
Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: Staga on May 07, 2004, 10:58:15 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandium

For what purpose is S&W using Scandium ?

found it: Lightweight frames made of aluminium-scandium alloy. Is it any better than titanium? easier for machine / mould ? cheaper?
Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: lazs2 on May 07, 2004, 12:10:44 PM
lighter... the scandium .357 mag smith with titanium cylinder and stainless steel barrel liner weighs a feathery 12 oz.

I ordered  1,000 rounds of remington 125 grain JHPs in .357 in anticipation of shooting the little bugger.   methinks it might recoil a tad.

lazs
Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: gofaster on May 07, 2004, 02:02:09 PM
For awhile, the Soviet Union was the only source of titanium, too.  The CIA managed to procur a source clandestinely, and Soviet titanium ended up in the early F-14A's.

Just some useless trivia to throw around at dinner parties.
Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: ra on May 07, 2004, 02:09:14 PM
Titanium is a very common element in the earth's crust.  It requires a lot of energy to make, but it's hard to believe the Soviet Union ever had a lock on titanium.
Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: gofaster on May 07, 2004, 02:35:23 PM
That's what I heard on the History Channel during a segment about the F-14, so consider the source.  Could be incorrect info.  Wouldn't be the first time.
Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: ravells on May 07, 2004, 02:43:28 PM
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Originally posted by gofaster
For awhile, the Soviet Union was the only source of titanium, too.  The CIA managed to procur a source clandestinely, and Soviet titanium ended up in the early F-14A's.

Just some useless trivia to throw around at dinner parties.


Must remember that, Gofaster....that'll really pull the chicks ;)

Ravs
Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: lazs2 on May 08, 2004, 09:55:33 AM
rav.. buy a 340 PD and you will have to beat the chicks off with a stick.   You should be able to get one through your local FFL dealer.

lazs
Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: wklink on May 08, 2004, 02:05:16 PM
Scandium Huh, wonder when the golfing industry will get ahold of it.  

They sure did make a killing out of Titanium.
Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: lada on May 08, 2004, 02:16:03 PM
actualy proper fun is rising around cuprum...
Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: lazs2 on May 08, 2004, 02:25:11 PM
OK.

lazs
Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: Habu on May 08, 2004, 02:55:56 PM
Quote
Originally posted by gofaster
For awhile, the Soviet Union was the only source of titanium, too.  The CIA managed to procur a source clandestinely, and Soviet titanium ended up in the early F-14A's.

Just some useless trivia to throw around at dinner parties.



I doubt that this is true. There are huge deposits of titanium in South Africa in the sands of Richards Bay I think it was. If you want to see some South Africian Titanium look at your walls. Most of it is processed into TiO2 titanium dioxide. Which is the pigment that replaced Lead in paint. A big plant does this in Sorrel Quebec.
Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: FUNKED1 on May 08, 2004, 03:06:06 PM
Quote
Originally posted by gofaster
For awhile, the Soviet Union was the only source of titanium, too.  The CIA managed to procur a source clandestinely, and Soviet titanium ended up in the early F-14A's.

Just some useless trivia to throw around at dinner parties.


Before that it ended up in the A-12 (plane the SR-71 was derived from).
Title: Why the breakup of the soviet union was so important..
Post by: Roscoroo on May 08, 2004, 04:07:44 PM
Titanium,
 Atomic Number: 22  Atomic Radius: 144.8 pm
 Atomic Symbol:  Ti  Melting Point: 1668 ºC
 Atomic Weight:  47.90  Boiling Point: 3287 ºC
 Electron Configuration:  [Ar]4s23d2  Oxidation States: 4,3,2

History
(Latin. titans, the first sons of the Earth, mythology)

Discovered by Gregor in 1791; named by Klaproth in 1795. Impure titanium was prepared by Nilson and Pettersson in 1887; however, the pure metal (99.9%) was not made until 1910 when Hunter heated TiCl4 with sodium in a steel bomb.

The metal was a laboratory curiosity until Kroll, in 1946, showed that titanium could be produced commercially by reducing titanium tetrachloride with magnesium. This method is still largely used for producing the metal. The metal can be purified by decomposing the iodide.