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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gunslinger on May 07, 2004, 02:59:57 PM
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I was listening to rush today about an Army SSgt who was dissapointed with Mr. Stark for his no vote on the resolution to support the troops and to berate the ones who abused the iraqi prisoners. (sorry there's not much detail or a link but I'm in a hurry)
Any how this SSgt faxed him a letter saying that not all soldiers serving right now are bad. Most are serving w/ distinction and honor and he was upset at Congressman Stark's "NO" vote on it.
Stark called the guy back and left a VOICE MAIL. Rush had a copy of that voicemail and it was DISPICABLE what this guy said.
He (stark) went off on the guy saying "he doesnt know what he's talking about" "I wonder who wrote this letter for you cause I dont think you even have the education to do so" and to top it off HE SAID "what kind of Golly-geeM hero do you think you are"
I not kidding here I hear this crap with my own ears. Now I know you guys are saying that this came from rush and its BS but the audio speaks for itself. Even if this guy was a repub...I'd be pissed and call a spade a spade.
Let me know if anyone else heard this.
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Well, he's not going to be re-elected.
I expect there's so many people under so much pressure at the moment, he just sounded off. There's a good sanskrit proverb:
'If I stumble and fall, many hands will set me back on the path, but a thousand stallions will not be able take back the words I have uttered.'
Ravs
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Good point ravells but would you agree that if he was a republican people would be asking for his resignation.
On another note I just found out dist 13 is the bay area. That explains alot but not this:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33704
There he was on Capitol Hill last week, sounding more like Eminem than an eminent lawmaker, hurling epithets such as "fruitcake" and "c--ks----r" at Republicans during a mark-up session on pension funds legislation of all things.
Most of the mainstream media coverage of the fracas has focused on the handling of the meeting by House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Bill Thomas, who is accused by Democrats of summoning Capitol Hill police to the scene in order to prevent the minority from meeting in a committee library to discuss procedural objections.
But while Beltway types squabble about whether Thomas was technically out of order, Stark's blatantly thuggish behavior has once again gotten a pass from the establishment Left.
According to an official committee transcript, Stark physically taunted fellow Ways and Means Committee member Scott McInnis, R-Colo., while Thomas attempted to hold a voice vote on the bill at hand. In response to McInnis' demand that Thomas be quiet while the bill was being read, Stark blurted out: "Oh, you think you are big enough to make me, you little wimp? Come on. Come over here and make me. I dare you.''
Further goading McInnis, a married Republican gentleman, Stark lashed out: "You little fruitcake. You little fruitcake. I said you are a fruitcake." According to Fox News Channel, witnesses say Stark then hurled a 10-letter homophobic insult at Thomas better suited for an anti-gay rap record than the Congressional Record. Stark's press office refused to answer my questions on the record about these remarks.
Homosexual-rights groups, whose fax machines and phone lines would have been on fire had the comments been made by any prominent conservative, shrugged at Stark's remarks. "I think he meant nothing by it," Human Rights Campaign official Winnie Stachelberg told Fox News. In his own defense, Stark claims "fruitcake means inept, crazy, a nut cake to me."
No word on what liberally construed definition Stark cites for "c--ks----r."
And no word of protest from magazine writers at the Advocate, who went ballistic when "antigay" Texas Rangers baseball player John Rocker called a couple of restaurant patrons who were harassing him last summer "fruitcakes."
The silence over Stark is no surprise. Liberals have long looked the other way at Stark's bigoted boorishness over the course of his three decades in public office. In 1995, when he called Rep. Nancy Johnson, R-Conn., a "potato" for the insurance industry and suggested that her knowledge of health care came solely from "pillow talk" with her physician husband, not a single Democrat objected. Not one of the proud feminists on Capitol Hill signed a letter, supported by 35 Republican House members, demanding that Stark apologize.
Nor did the Congressional Black Caucus emit a peep when Stark lambasted former Bush I Health and Human Services Secretary Louis Sullivan, an accomplished doctor and medical researcher, as "a disgrace to his race and his profession" because he opposed Stark's socialist health care schemes. "I guess I should feel ashamed because Congressman Stark thinks I am not a 'good Negro,"' Sullivan observed after the 1990 incident. "As a Cabinet member who has spent almost four decades of my life dedicated to healing, ... am unable to express my own views without being subject to race-based criticism by those who are not ready to accept independent thinking by a black man."
Then there was the time Stark attacked former conservative California state welfare director Eloise Anderson in 1999 as a baby-killer, complaining at a public forum that she would "kill children if she had her way" simply because she opposed cradle-to-grave government welfare entitlements. Not a single finger-wagging editorial from the media elite about the need for decorum and decent behavior in public debate appeared in either the California or national op-ed pages.
The lesson couldn't be more stark: Only the self-anointed preachers of tolerance and civility on the Left can have their fruitcake and eat it, too.
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wooo fun, another thing for us to be emberassed about as Californians...
What an ******* this guy is.
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Democrat, Republican...it doesn't matter.
People in politics should not make responses like he did to their constituents.
I expect the Democrats will be pressuring him to resign if he carries on like this. He's hurting their chances. He looks like a liability.
Ravs
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Originally posted by ravells
Democrat, Republican...it doesn't matter.
People in politics should not make responses like he did to their constituents.
I expect the Democrats will be pressuring him to resign if he carries on like this. He's hurting their chances. He looks like a liability.
Ravs
I agree with you...but not just in politics people who are public figures PERIOD should realize what they say has a greater effect on people that if you or I had said it.
And I think you are completly wrong about them pressuring him to resign. This is the double standard we live with. A libral is aloud to be a racist anti-gay loud mouth and you hear barely a peep out of it.
Trent lot makes a comment just complimenting an old friend....people twist the meaning....he's now a racist....he's pressured to resign.
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And I think you are completly wrong about them pressuring him to resign. This is the double standard we live with. A libral is aloud to be a racist anti-gay loud mouth and you hear barely a peep out of it.
Well if it's that way, then I think it's rather sad.
btw...I've been meaning to ask you this for awhile, what is the design on your Avatar?
Ravs
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A link to the full letter (http://www.ksfo.com/listingsentryfeature.asp?ID=209279&PT=KSFO+Spotlight)
You can click to hear the audio the bottom of the page I linked.
What a skumbag. How do we ellect tools like this?
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Revells
His current avatar? the Orange globe and anchor??
You do not know?
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I heard it on Rush... (yes I listen sometimes, helps warm my blood)
2 observations
1. Stark seems to have had legitimate reasons for his no vote. He mentions that he didn't want the enlisted persons to take the heat instead of the officers.
2. Stark is a *******.
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MT he can vote Either way his acusation agaist the letter writer is sickening though? The guy acts like a 12 year old and calls the person stupid??
Jeez and we elected this tool.
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Yeah, it isn't about how he voted, it is about his tone and what he says to the man. Jeez, Stark sounds like someone replying to a genuine post on a game-related BBS....
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WOW gtora thanks for the link!
Ravels my avitar is of the Eagle Globe and Anchor. It is the US Marine Corps emblem. Being a Frmr Marine I wear it like a badge of pride just like my fellow active duty servicemen today.
Now about pete stark.....WHAT A F'CKN SCUMBAG. If somone could show me in this resolution were it would absolve the Generals and other officers of any wrong doing I might not think SO bad for him but WHAT A F'CKN SCUMBAG.
Seriously Repub or Dem. this guy would be a scumbag either way but he's Getting a HUGE pass on this it seems. I havnt heard JACK on this in the media.
He's a public servant talking to one of his constituants. It matters not that the constituant disagrees with him but to talk down to him and berate him for disagreeing is absurd.
If he was my congressman I'd send him a nasty fax/email/letter as well.
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rav...stark has allways been a nutjob but he votes the right way for the democrats... a real team player. From what I have observed over the years... Republicans are about twice as likely to cut loose their nutjobs as democrats are.
lazs
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
MT he can vote Either way his acusation agaist the letter writer is sickening though? The guy acts like a 12 year old and calls the person stupid??
Jeez and we elected this tool.
hence my observation #2
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Pete Stark is one of the most respected members of Congress America has... I really hope he runs as Hillary's VP in 2008.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Pete Stark is one of the most respected members of Congress America has... I really hope he runs as Hillary's VP in 2008.
Airhead....please tell me that was sarcasm!
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(about the avatar) no...I didn't know, hence the question.
Thanks!
Ravs
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You listen to Rush Limbaugh?
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Originally posted by Sixpence
You listen to Rush Limbaugh?
Normally no....lately i've been going to the gym during my lunch hour and catch a few minutes of it. Reguardless of were this was reported at Pete Stark's treatment of one of his constituints was apaulling. If I lived in district 13 I'd do every thing I could to make sure he wasnt re-elected.
On another vote I still havnt looked up the resolution but I doubt it says anything about admonishing the officers involved in this incident.
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Ok, I was gonna say, many here complain that people look for a reason to bash the president, and if you listen to Rush Limbaugh, you are doing the same thing.(opposite of course) Although I did listen to Rush pick the Pats to be in the superbowl:aok (even though I didn't think he belonged on the show)
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Quote:
"I expect the Democrats will be pressuring him to resign if he carries on like this. He's hurting their chances. He looks like a liability."
I guess you haven't heard of Sen. Robert(Grand Kleagle of the KKK)Byrd, and Sen. Ted(I Ran All The Way Home)Kennedy, the two "elder statesmen" of the Democrat Party?? AFAICT, there is NOTHING that a Democrat could do to make him/her a "liablity"...
C.
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Originally posted by Cabby44
Quote:
"I expect the Democrats will be pressuring him to resign if he carries on like this. He's hurting their chances. He looks like a liability."
I guess you haven't heard of Sen. Robert(Grand Kleagle of the KKK)Byrd, and Sen. Ted(I Ran All The Way Home)Kennedy, the two "elder statesmen" of the Democrat Party?? AFAICT, there is NOTHING that a Democrat could do to make him/her a "liablity"...
C.
AMEN
this is such a double standard. A republican could say "I think marrige is defined as a union between man and woman but support gay rights to form 'civil unions'"
and the Gay community lables him a bigot homo hater anti gay facist.
A Democrat says " You FRUITCAKE C*ck*su*ker" and he's a libral hero.
totally a double standard.