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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Citabria on May 09, 2004, 03:11:29 AM
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its one seriosly mirrored cut up skin on it with patches everywhere, all the maps are rescaled and different sizes.
this is fine for a 256 skin with no heavy detailing, but with the unchangable colors on the nose and spinners and mirrored nose and wings and nacels, this is a fixed skin with no room for changes or variations and it may get skinned in 1024 and have its 1 high res skin but with the patches and confusiontheres no chance for metal refelction effect, individual plane markings. basically nothing you will see on the p51 by the players will happen to the p38 until its got a straightforward adaptable texturemap.
and with 2 1024 x1024 bmps to work with this is double what IL2 uses to skin their entire aircraft.
simpler is better, no details no fixed colors and no mirrors or repeats to allow the plane to be done in an olive drab camoflage repaint or in any squadrons or pilots markings.
or leave it as it is and it will be very likely get left as it is by the skinners the way the 109g6 was till it had its tulips plucked.
(http://www.r0013636.hostultra.com/uploads/data/media/1/p38mapgrid.jpg)
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its an excellent 3d model and for the few polygons it uses its incredibly well done in capturing the look of the 38.
but it needs a good skin thats adaptable
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That's something we'll take a look at redoing post release. The best time for us to remap the texture and do some fixup on the model is when we add some other 38 variants.
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Originally posted by Pyro
... is when we add some other 38 variants.
the p38 fans are gonna pee their panties when they read this.
imo - the more big fat ugly targets the better :)
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Originally posted by Pyro
That's something we'll take a look at redoing post release. The best time for us to remap the texture and do some fixup on the model is when we add some other 38 variants.
Pinch me, I think I'm dreaming.
ack-ack
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(http://www.fansview.com/2000j/1027b327.jpg)
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Originally posted by Pyro
That's something we'll take a look at redoing post release. The best time for us to remap the texture and do some fixup on the model is when we add some other 38 variants .
OHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I CANT TAKE MUCH MORE OF THIS!!!
Muhahahahahha Pea38 Variants!!!!! :D
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PYRO can you pweeeeeez tell us more??:D
Like.... mmmm maybe what other Variants you MIGHT have in mind? Nothing writen in stone here but just like an off the top of you head thing....
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p38F im sure of it.
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if u go play/test ah2 and pyro or HT are in there they are much more informative whn asked stuff. i got more info in 30min than 3 months of reading the boards
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weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Haven't been more thrilled about Aces High than I am right now:D :D :D :D
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Ki-100 please! :cool:
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Amen Mitsu :)
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its seems to me so incredible to get something new after that loooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooonng
time
wow. realy...
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
p38F im sure of it.
I hope not. That's the crappiest P-38 of the lot. Slow, crappy vertical performance (any plane that can do a high yoyo can rope it) and it doesn't have combat flaps. It's only saving grace is that it's the best turn fighter of all the P-38s.
ack-ack
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I can certainly see an E, F, or possibly a G added to fill out an early war scenario role. The J seems the most obvious choice, but the performance of the later J's is so nearly identical to the L that I don't see the point.
Even though they only built one and it never flew in combat, maybe we could get a perked P-38K. (http://home.att.net/~C.C.Jordan/P-38K.html) :D
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I'd rather see the G or even H model.
The K would be cool, no more Runstangs since we'd be able to chase them down.
ack-ack
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I'm with AKAK on this one. Imagine chasing a P51D down with no doubt whatsover of it getting away... the whines ohhh the splendid whines. Get in tiptop shape AKAK, chan 1 is about to get a whole lot better:D
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I'm thinking either the G alone(or maybe with an early J) or the F and the H.
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:D :aok
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F and the H please,
They will do better in AH2:ToD.
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Originally posted by Pyro
I'm thinking either the G alone(or maybe with an early J) or the F and the H.
Muahahahah
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I hope not. That's the crappiest P-38 of the lot. Slow, crappy vertical performance (any plane that can do a high yoyo can rope it) and it doesn't have combat flaps. It's only saving grace is that it's the best turn fighter of all the P-38s.
ack-ack
Lets watch that P38F talk Ack-Ack :)
My Nomad 38 was always a P38F with a bad left engine that leaked oil all the time with the guns misaligned too.
Loved that old "Miss Fire" :)
Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1084221113_38f.jpg)
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i'm laying odds on a G or H model since it wouldn't have to be so majorly reworked visually.
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at this point i would take what ever they gave us. :D
~S~
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Originally posted by Shane
i'm laying odds on a G or H model since it wouldn't have to be so majorly reworked visually.
The J looks like the L, but the G and H both look like the rest of the early models with the sloped back dual air intakes under the prop instead of the flat triple intakes of the J and L.
The reason for the difference in the intakes was that the J and L had core type (made like radiators) intercoolers with the cooling inlets below the props, while all of the earlier versions had the intercoolers in the leading edges of the outer wings.
So only a J model could be done without signifcant alteration of the actual graphic model, anything like a G or H would require a serious rework, as would an M, which would require a hump behind the pilot for the RO.
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:aok
Looking forward to it. :)
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id put my vote on the p38F and p38H being most beneficial for varieties sake
though an addition of a p38J to the p38F and H would really make the p38 set complete the way the 109 set is. the J being a tad faster with no dive flaps or boosted ailerons would be a variation of performance between the H and the L.
P-38H is an excellent choice because it will make scenarios much more balanced when the setup is 1943 luftwaffe against b17s and p38H's escorting. also the mediteranean theatre used early model p38s long after the j and L was available.
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Originally posted by Batz
F and the H please,
They will do better in AH2:ToD.
That was my first inclination, but the more I think about it, the more a G and early model J make sense to me.
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Originally posted by Pyro
That was my first inclination, but the more I think about it, the more a G and early model J make sense to me.
The early model J meaning J-15-Lo and earlier, WITHOUT dive flaps? The only advantage of the early J over the G and H is power level, and that is handicapped by added weight.
Not much difference between the G and the H, and pilots of the 20TH and 55TH FG's told me that they had at least as many H models as G models, so I doubt it really matters.
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I don't know what your plans are for AH and TOD (where a J model might make perfect sense for the timeframe) but the J triggers my hangar queen alert. :o
It's nearly identical to the L minus a few horses here and there, dive flaps and a bit of gas.
F and G/H would be completely new and different toys and as far as I can see are better suited for scenario use.
F and H please :)
But then, every new plane is Good News.
Being a regular P-38 driver I'd rather sit out a few versions in favor of a new Japanese plane though :D
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The P-38G was the 3rd most numerous produced lightning behind the J, and L models.
The H was really a stop gap model while waiting on the J's improvements.
I don't know how the F could have been the best turner though. The F-15 model was really the first model with combat flaps. With only about 150 being produced before the G. Maybe the F's performace was being calculated on the F-15?
I'd love to see an earlier P-38 though.
Definitely a good looking aircraft!
(http://firstfighter.servegame.com/P-38H_1.jpg)