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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Max on May 09, 2004, 10:19:07 AM
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Like just about all other Saitek sticks, this one has some odd quirks. I find it to need almost constant calibration - especially upon launch of AH. I also find that it tends to deviate from the scaling I have set in AH. I'm using the latest XP drivers but have not installed the SST programming software, rather I've programmed the stick in AH j-stick set-up. Are the problems common to the EVO, or do I have a redheaded stepchild??
Thanks~
DmdMax
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Another herring like mine or is it a redheaded stepchild ... what!!
me 2??! :lol
Happy1 :D <----- still frustrated w/stick probs
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Been using a Saitek cyborg EVO for about a month now. No problems yet, and still works like new. I'll keep ya posted
(nice to have rudder control back)
Cheers,
RTR
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Have been using Sailtek Cyborg evo for about two months, no problems as of yet..........smoother control, better positioned buttons and nice adjustable handgrip. Used Logitech 3D Pro before, I will never go back.
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Found if you move the stick around all axis before taking off it will fix any calibration issues. It can be done in the air, but only if you're good at coming out of stalls :)
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Thanks for the input. RTR & SirJames, what Windows OS are you guys using?
Dmdmax
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I am using Windows XP on a Dell Model 2350 Computer
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XP Home here Max.
Have you gone through the calibration in windows, as well as the Calibration in AH?
I used to use a logitech stick and am now just in the habit of calibrating everytime I launch AH. Although I have not noticed any problems with this stick, I do calibrate it every time I launch the game.
Cheers,
RTR
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Hmmmm....XP Home here as well.
The latest Evo drivers preculde the ability of calibrating the stick in Windows CP's. Saitek support did point me to a utility which allows deadband tweaking...the preset is set at about 6% for both X & Y axes. That's helped a bit. I suppose I'll just make a habit of calibrating the stick within the game upon arrival.
Thanks guys ~
DmdMax
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does anybody here have a saitek st90 or used to have one i need help bad i cant reveres on cv caus eof digatl throttle
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To me the Sailtek Cyborg evo is the best
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Originally posted by jetb123
does anybody here have a saitek st90 or used to have one i need help bad i cant reveres on cv caus eof digatl throttle
In order to gain longer flight deck space on a CV, the ship must be headed into the wind, eg, not turning. You want to gently increase RPM's to 2300 - 2500. Once you begin a backward roll, keep an eye on your 6 so as not to roll off the back of the deck.
DmdMax
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My MS Precision Pro USB finally got so sloppy that I decided to replace it . Bought a Logitech 3D pro .... 10 minutes later it was back inthe box and returned to the store . Yesterday I decided to try a Saitek Cyborg EVO . I like it .... It is gona take me a long time to adjust to it after over 8 years using MS Joysticks .
I also find that I have to calibrate it in Windows and then in ( Offline ) game before entering online game ....
CHECKERS
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Originally posted by AWCHKRS
Yesterday I decided to try a Saitek Cyborg EVO . I like it .... It is gona take me a long time to adjust to it after over 8 years using MS Joysticks .
I also find that I have to calibrate it in Windows and then in ( Offline ) game before entering online game ....
CHECKERS
Checkers could you please do me a favor? Have you flown AH2 yet? My Evo seems to require much more calibrtion, and feels a lot more loose/twitchy in AH2 vs AH1. Do you get the same impression? I know the flight models are different in AH2 so I'm not sure if what I'm experiencing is from the new FM or stick spiking.
Thanks ~ DmdMax
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I use a saitek cyborg 3d usb stick. It works like a charm. I havn't calibrated in maybe 4 months, nor do I feel that I need to. The older cyborg has two or so buttons lessthen the EVO, but much better throttle placement IMO. You can find em now for as little as $10 if you look around.
-pellik
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Pellick I went through 3 Cyborgs in about 2 years. It seems to do a lot better with non XP OS's. I never had much of a problem with any of them other than their' shelf life is good for about 9 months.
Then again, for $35...it's hard to get upset. Very few folks seem to like the throttle placement of the Evo. I just wish Saitek could iron out their age old XP drivers :(((
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thanks guys for help:)
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Originally posted by DMax
Checkers could you please do me a favor? Have you flown AH2 yet? My Evo seems to require much more calibrtion, and feels a lot more loose/twitchy in AH2 vs AH1. Do you get the same impression? I know the flight models are different in AH2 so I'm not sure if what I'm experiencing is from the new FM or stick spiking.
Thanks ~ DmdMax
I tried the EVO in AH 2 and found it to be a hand full, after that I decided to beat the bushes and I was able to locate a new MS Sidewinder Pro II USB . I brought it home , put the EVO in back the box and never looked back 1 .
To answer your question , IMO AH 2 FM is different and the planes fly way different . I do not think that your joystick has squat to do with what you are seeing and feeling in AH2 ! .
I hope this helps ....also you would do way better asking others that have used the EVO for more time than me (just a few days) .... They can give you a much better answer than I can .
CHECKERS
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Using an EVO. The Saitek profiler settings do not seem to pass through to AHII. Nor have I been able to get an button functions to work in the AHII stick map setup.
Any1 care to share their stick mappings or profiler settings?
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2Slow I've never had much luck with the Saitek software. Rather I do all mapping via the AH stickmapping feature within the game.
My stick scale cfg is available if you'd like, drop an e-mail to topchef52@adelphia.net
Good luck,
DmdMax
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The Saitek forums have had a few discussions on Evo "drifting." I haven't had any problems with the calibration, but they had mentioned a possible fix. One option that worked for some was to invert the axes twice. Another option was to get this: DXTweak (http://www.wingmanteam.com/latest_software/gadgets.htm).
It helps you alter various settings for USB input devices.
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This is from one of the Saitek support dudes on Evo "drifting":
The stick should be self-calibrating so moving it through its full range of movement should correct any mis-calibration that is present.
If it doesn't then do the following:
Unplug the controller, click Start>Run, type regedit and click OK. In the Registry Editor browse to the following folders in order:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
SYSTEM
CurrentControlSet
Control
MediaProperties
PrivateProperties
DirectInput
And delete the VID_06A3&PID_0464 folder. Plug the controller back in, rotate and twist the stick fully a couple of times and that should have fixed it.
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Thanks for those tidbits Octavious. Those come from the Saitek tech forum?
DmdMax
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My only complaint about Evo is where the damn gas is Cyborb. It was on the sides up front where its needed. I lose alot of fights because of this.
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Heh yeah, the throttle position more or less sucks arse.
DMax, sorry, here's a link the forum (http://www.saitekforum.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=114). Unforuntately, you can't view the Cyborg Evo or joysticks general section until you're registered and approved. It took me a day or two for approval.
Support replies to threads relatively fast, too.
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i hav ebeen using cyborgs for last 2 years ..love them..
broke about 5 of thewm..but got free returns from Bets Buy..
been usn EVO..now..
I have to recalibrate everytime i log on the..kinda suks..
and throttle position does suk.........got used to it now tho
who the fuq is designing these things...they doont play?
throttl up front is much bettr
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Originally posted by DMax
Hmmmm....XP Home here as well.
Saitek support did point me to a utility which allows deadband tweaking...the preset is set at about 6% for both X & Y axes. That's helped a bit. .
Thanks guys ~
DmdMax
Can you pass on the utility? I could use it also.
Thanks
StrayDog
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i also have to calibrate my stick each time i log in. this is my second evo first lasting about 5 months (glad i got the 2 year warrenty) one of the buttons stuck. first and second evo both require calibration upon launch of AH. it dont matter if i calibrate in windows before game launch. once i calibrate it in AH its good to go the rest of the night.
i have noticed when i log in and dont calibrate the stick feels really sloppy and loose.
other than the calibration issue its a sweet stick and i like it alot:aok
whatever ya do DONT go get a logitech extreme 3d pro :)
this stick will last ya a month...then its back to wally world to exchange for another POS 3d pro...rinse and repeat:rolleyes:
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DMAX: I never installed the drivers that came with the joystick.
Win XP popped a message up stating it didn't recommend
installing drivers for that device. Apparently I'm only using the
ones that came with the service pack. After my post about having
a prob with the nose-bounce on the evo, someone sent me their stick.cfg it virtually elliminated the bounce. Haven't had time
to battle test it, but offline use seemed a lot smoother.
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Ya the new stick config. I'm using works a lot better now.
Cept I HAVE developed the "drift" ppl are talking about.
Been having to recal about 3 times a night.
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I`ve had the evo for a couple monthes ,i never loaded the manufacturer disc either,worked fine....but the stick axis wasn`t smooth, felt like it was catching on something,so i sweetheartd it with wd40,figured what the heck...smooth as silk now tho i don`t know if it was the right thing to do or not it worked for me...