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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: GRUNHERZ on November 15, 2000, 09:42:00 PM
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Hi
Will the only planes permited to use carriers be ones that historically used them?
For example N1K2 did not fly off of carriers.
thanks GRUNHERZ
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those vtol niki's would sure feel at home on carriers (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Im sure the htc crew will only allow carrier capable planes to land on carriers.
That is the way that they did it in WB's
HOWEVER..it is the duty of every paying subscriber to attempt to land all the modeled planes on the deck (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) .
In AW Dos and WB's this was a time honoured tradition.
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I'm sure only carrier planes will be allowed to launch from the CV. And if you don't have a hook it would be pretty hard to land.
But as Ping pointed out, players will find ways to land any plane on the deck. Any port in a storm. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I think if it can fit on the deck, it should be allowed to take off from a carrier (or at least try) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Scenarios are the place to limit carriers to carrier-based planes, IMO.
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I don't think non-carrier based planes should have the benefit of catching the wire though.
SOB
[This message has been edited by SOB (edited 11-16-2000).]
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So...basically, it's going to be F4U's and Hellcats vs. Zeros? Sounds like fun lol.
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LJK_Raubvogel
LuftJägerKorps (http://www.luftjagerkorps.com)
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Originally posted by LJK Raubvogel:
So...basically, it's going to be F4U's and Hellcats vs. Zeros? Sounds like fun lol.
and whats up with Spitfires off carriers??? - they did it too....
I've got £10 says no-one can get a Lanc on deck in one piece. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
[This message has been edited by Sparks (edited 11-16-2000).]
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if I can land a b-25 on the wb cv Im sure I can get any plane to do it its just a forced stall as you cross the end of the deck anyways and then hard on the breaks (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I have pictures of USAAF P-47's, P40's and P-39's taking off from carriers in WWII !!!
Now we just need the P-40 and P-39 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
-Westy
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Sparks - spitfires only took off carriers in special circumstances (USS Wasp and HMS Eagle delivering spitfires to Malta, for example). I don't think they were ever operational from a carrier (might be wrong). Should only let aircraft that were designed and used as carrier-borne planes to take-off from a carrier.
Now the Seafire - that's a different question... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I feel only AC that actually took off from carriers should be allowed to do so.
Not sure what to think about B25 though...
Also.. you should be able to land any AC on a CV err at least you should be able to attempt to land any AC on the deck +) in the MA
Was there a Mossie equipped for carrier ops? or was that the Hornet? (love to see the hornet in AH!! +)
Give the SpitV the carrier equipment, might as well. It would be a minor change to modify the Sp5 in Aces to Seafire standards.
SKurj
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If they get to have Sea fires, then those carries should only be allowed to have Swordfish, or Albacores as attack planes lol. I am suprised no one thought of adding the Perk Plane for carriers, the Bearcat F8, and even the Tigercat F9.
UncleBuck
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Hey Sparks.... sounds very tempting!!! I can often stop a Lancaster in a much shorter distance than a F4U! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Nexx
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Hmmm....you think you can get a B17 off the deck of the carrier with full flaps? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Or what about a goon? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
[This message has been edited by sling322 (edited 11-16-2000).]
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You could get a B17 off a carrier (offline) in Warbirds. The taildragger configuration helps a little as the thrust vector of the engines gives that tiny extra bit of help...
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Graywolfe <tim@flibble.org>
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Nexx - the tenner stands - has to be in one piece and on its gear on deck. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Dowding - you're right - I was being kind of general in that the first Seafires were converted MkV's so in theory it should be valid to operate MkV's from the carriers until will get a pukka Seafire.
I wonder if it will be as difficult as Jeffrey Quill says it was in his book - certainly the nose high attitude is going to be intersting at flare. Think I'll need to practice those slipped curved approaches.
Skurj - yep Mossie was carrier borne - TR Mk33 - but I think it was unarmed gun wise (not sure about that) - load was one torpedo and radar. Book I've got says it never went operational.
Sparks
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The Seafire should be pretty easy to do... and they did many, many variants which were very much the equivilent of RAF types - MkV and MkIX and later.
Was HMS Ocean a WW2 carrier? If it was then they carried RAF Spitfire's too, mostly in the transport role.
Regards
Nexx
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I have a nice narative of a squadron of fully armed Spitfire MkXIV's taking off of a jeep carrier in 1945 to fly into a potential combat situation.
To get carriers that have catapults we'd have to have British carriers. Thay're the only ones who had them in WWII.
BTW, UncleBuck,
The British used Avengers, Dauntless' and the like as well. They also had some more modern British carrier aircraft.
Sisu
-Karnak
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Launching a bomber from a carrier wouldn't be too tuff.. consider Doolittle left with about 100 feet of carrier deck in front of him.
An Essex carrier was capable of upwards of 30 knots even in severe seas... add that to a 20-30 mph headwind and the height of the deck above the sea, plus factor that the launches were timed for the deck to be on the 'up-swing' in the seas as the bomber came to the end of the 'runway'. Psuedo-catapult. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Of course; I have no idea if AH is gonna model wind and provide a wind direction indicator, let alone sea-states as per Beaufort scale. Sea-tate modeling would be a hoot tho; wouldn't it?? hehehhehe.. sure would pork Rips Cruiser's heavy gun accuracy, and make those pesky PT boats very tuff targets indeed for a cruiser or destroyer. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
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at one time I could take off and land from a carrier with the Me 262 in both WB and AW, and additionally the F-86 and MiG in AW (though I could never get the F-86 to stop before rolling off the carrier)
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A Seafire in the Pacific scored the last kill of WWII (several minutes after the Japanese surrendered I believe)
Just sayin (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
- Jig