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Title: Buy John Denver's Plane!
Post by: Habu on May 09, 2004, 05:38:03 PM
For all you tree hugging folk music lovin pilots. And the paint job is sure to grab attention where ever you go!

John Denver's Cessna 210 for sale (http://www.howardaircraft.com/N59167-specs-a.htm)
Title: Buy John Denver's Plane!
Post by: ra on May 09, 2004, 05:41:55 PM
Is this one amphibious?
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Post by: muckmaw on May 09, 2004, 06:34:11 PM
BAHAHAHAHHA!!

Oh that is so wrong on so many different levels!

WTG, RA!
Title: Buy John Denver's Plane!
Post by: Mathman on May 09, 2004, 07:02:51 PM
Is that the one that has taken off once but never landed?
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Post by: Ripsnort on May 09, 2004, 07:09:30 PM
Neg, Math, that was a Long EZ experimental.

http://www.avweb.com/news/safety/183015-1.html
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Post by: NUKE on May 09, 2004, 07:11:19 PM
It comes with an unfinished song demo called "rocky ocean low"
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Post by: SirLoin on May 09, 2004, 08:05:55 PM
What a loser!..Not to mention a shhitty pilot.
Title: Buy John Denver's Plane!
Post by: NUKE on May 09, 2004, 08:29:26 PM
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Originally posted by SirLoin
What a loser!..Not to mention a shhitty pilot.


he was a loser? I would say is was very successful in life.
Title: Buy John Denver's Plane!
Post by: Mathman on May 09, 2004, 09:29:24 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Neg, Math, that was a Long EZ experimental.

http://www.avweb.com/news/safety/183015-1.html


Sorry Rip, I guess I forgot to put the [darkhumor] [/darkhumor] tags on my post.
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Post by: eskimo2 on May 09, 2004, 09:51:50 PM
Far out man.

eskimo
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Post by: Yeager on May 09, 2004, 10:45:24 PM
Guy was a consumate pilot and a friend to anyone who flew.  Just screwed the pooch once and that was all it took.
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Post by: Creamo on May 09, 2004, 10:54:13 PM
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Originally posted by SirLoin
What a loser!..Not to mention a shhitty pilot.


Damn, that's harsh. He has 14 gold albums and 8 platinum in the USA alone. He owned a Lear Jet, was also an aerobatic pilot. The guy made some really great music and was pretty upstanding.

And you work where and have what kinda plane?
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Post by: Furious on May 10, 2004, 12:47:42 AM
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Originally posted by SirLoin
What a loser!..Not to mention a shhitty pilot.


John Denver was only following his instincts...

And so were you when you made this post.


Makes you think where the human race is in the cycle of things..:rolleyes:
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Post by: Airhead on May 10, 2004, 01:12:29 AM
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Originally posted by SirLoin
What a loser!..Not to mention a shhitty pilot.


How's the ol' twelve step program going there, Sir Loin? :D
Title: Buy John Denver's Plane!
Post by: Creamo on May 10, 2004, 01:16:16 AM
Oh come on Airhead. The Betty Ford Center now cures tards in 12 steps? I call BS.
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on May 10, 2004, 01:19:31 AM
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Originally posted by SirLoin
What a loser!..Not to mention a shhitty pilot.


WTF is wrong with you?
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Post by: Nash on May 10, 2004, 01:32:13 AM
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Originally posted by Creamo
Oh come on Airhead. The Betty Ford Center now cures tards in 12 steps? I call BS.


Did it in FOUR!

I rule.
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Post by: txmx on May 10, 2004, 01:52:24 AM
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Originally posted by Creamo
Damn, that's harsh. He has 14 gold albums and 8 platinum in the USA alone. He owned a Lear Jet, was also an aerobatic pilot. The guy made some really great music and was pretty upstanding.

And you work where and have what kinda plane?



Very well said.
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Post by: lazs2 on May 10, 2004, 08:18:03 AM
sir loin is a liberal.   If he was American he would be a democrat.

lazs
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Post by: Udie on May 10, 2004, 08:48:46 AM
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Originally posted by Creamo
Oh come on Airhead. The Betty Ford Center now cures tards in 12 steps? I call BS.




BS Nash! You didn't do it in 4!  IT took me 17 1/2 steps!
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Post by: Ripsnort on May 10, 2004, 09:06:04 AM
I wonder how much Denver's love of weed coupled with short term memory loss had to play in this?

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PROBABLE CAUSE
The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause of this accident was the pilot's diversion of attention from the operation of the airplane and his inadvertent application of right rudder that resulted in the loss of airplane control while attempting to manipulate the fuel selector handle. Also, the Board determines that the pilot's inadequate preflight planning and preparations, specifically his failure to refuel the airplane, was causal.
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Post by: gofaster on May 10, 2004, 09:23:33 AM
In the Long EZ, the fuel selector switch was located behind the pilot's head.  In order to switch tanks, the pilot would have to look up and behind him to his left.  If you've ever tried this in a car, you'll find that you begin to put pressure on either the brake or the throttle (usually the throttle).  I believe this is what the FAA is trying to say in their report - that he was looking back to his left and trying to turn the knob with his right hand and put pressure on his right foot (right rudder pedal) which caused the spin.

He should've checked his tanks and made sure he had the proper one selected before he launched.

And this is one ugly scheme.  

(http://www.howardaircraft.com/N59167-In-Air.jpg)

Was probably big in the '70s, though.  And judging by the selection of women's swimsuits this season, it looks like the '70s schemes are coming back.

(http://www.roxy.com/content/images/1229-617-2446-filenameMedium.jpg)
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Post by: Airhead on May 10, 2004, 09:56:11 AM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I wonder how much Denver's love of weed coupled with short term memory loss had to play in this?


None, according to the accident report. Uh... you DID read read the link you put up, right?
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Post by: Mathman on May 10, 2004, 11:07:30 AM
Actually, I blame his teachers, any drug habit he had, his liberal views, lack of a BMW, and non-carpeted garage.  That is what I got from Rip's post.
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Post by: Stringer on May 10, 2004, 11:27:29 AM
Also add a bad little league coach to that list, Math.
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Post by: lazs2 on May 10, 2004, 02:18:59 PM
allmost all weakness, liberalism and consequent democratic party membership has been linked to having poor math teachers in the students early years.

lazs
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Post by: Creamo on May 10, 2004, 02:47:39 PM
Too much. Captain Cut n paste does another mindless drive by. If he would have  batted .900 as a child in little league, he wouldn't have crashed. Bad parenting caused it.
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Post by: Habu on May 10, 2004, 03:18:32 PM
That is a nicely equiped plane. I bet the maintanance was top notch as well while John owned it. He must have put the casette player in it. I like how something that would not even rate a mention in an auto classifield ad (very old car cassette deck) gets a special mention and its own picture in an aircraft ad. It just shows how anything in an aircraft costs 10 times what it is worth.

Funny how entertainers always get hosed when they buy things. Imagine what that paint job cost. It must have 7 different colours in it. And the final result is something that dose not even look like it is painted in the right direction. Unless it is a special native American motif dealing with eagles I cannot see the relavance of the design to anything that flys.

Nice plane though.
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Post by: Udie on May 10, 2004, 03:20:44 PM
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Originally posted by Habu
I cannot see the relavance of the design to anything that flys.

Nice plane though.



ahhhh you never did acid ;)
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Post by: Sandman on May 10, 2004, 03:24:19 PM
I don't like the base color (I hate tan), but the striping is kinda cool.
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Post by: midnight Target on May 10, 2004, 03:26:05 PM
That's not an Indian motif.

Imagine you're on his high 6, then squint a little bit.......


That's Pippi Longstocking!
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Post by: Sandman on May 10, 2004, 03:32:41 PM
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Originally posted by gofaster
In the Long EZ, the fuel selector switch was located behind the pilot's head.  In order to switch tanks, the pilot would have to look up and behind him to his left.  If you've ever tried this in a car, you'll find that you begin to put pressure on either the brake or the throttle (usually the throttle).  I believe this is what the FAA is trying to say in their report - that he was looking back to his left and trying to turn the knob with his right hand and put pressure on his right foot (right rudder pedal) which caused the spin.


Here's an explanation: http://www.asktog.com/columns/027InterfacesThatKill.html
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Post by: Ripsnort on May 10, 2004, 03:34:25 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
allmost all weakness, liberalism and consequent democratic party membership has been linked to having poor math teachers in the students early years.

lazs


I don't think one who is out trolling is going to bite someone elses bait, lazs :lol :aok
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Post by: SirLoin on May 13, 2004, 09:45:47 PM
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Originally posted by Creamo
Damn, that's harsh. He has 14 gold albums and 8 platinum in the USA alone. He owned a Lear Jet, was also an aerobatic pilot. The guy made some really great music and was pretty upstanding.

And you work where and have what kinda plane?


Thank God(lol) they're all outta print...Sorry if I offended anyone,it's just that I've been listening to the Nick Drake box set  lately.
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Post by: SirLoin on May 13, 2004, 11:03:10 PM
Oops..Just read the facts on his death.For some stupid reason I thought he died flying at night without his night rating...Usually prettty good at remembering air/crash details of celebs.

BTW..Carb icing is what killed rock N' Roll.
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Post by: Habu on May 14, 2004, 09:52:18 AM
Yes when I read that accident report I was thinking wow that could have happened to me if I was flying.

I thought Long EZ were impossible to stall though? It sounded like a stall into a spin but I also thought they were impossible to spin as well.
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Post by: gofaster on May 14, 2004, 12:44:27 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Here's an explanation: http://www.asktog.com/columns/027InterfacesThatKill.html


Cool reading.  I was on the right track about the fuel selector position.  I always wondered why someone would put that switch in the most awkward place possible.