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Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Gunslinger on May 11, 2004, 08:15:39 AM
I know its early in the morning here but I dont think my eyes decieved me.  I could have swore I just saw the news say that Iragis were protesting rebel cleric, wanted for murder, to leave.

All sarcasm aside I havnt seen any news link yet but if this is true it is really good news.  It does go to show that the majority in Iraq want peace and prosperity.
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Udie on May 11, 2004, 08:33:30 AM
According to some Iraqi blogs they have been for quite a while actually.  Here's one from yesterday....



http://iraqataglance.blogspot.com/


Tuesday, May 11, 2004
Arrest him..
Abdilsattar AlBahadli.. One of Muqtada’s thugs in Basra, he’s the manager of AlSadr office there, on Friday, he urged his thieves that he’ll pay 250000 ID for anyone who can capture a soldier and if the soldier is a female, he can take her as a bondwoman! (I.e. they have all the lawful rights to do anything with her, and she must work as a house maid, they can sell her for others, have sex with her..anything..anything!!) All of that ( according to AlBahadli) is admissible in Islam, the announcer on the TV said “.... all the men who were listening to him were astonished and didn’t pay attention to his call”..
They didn’t, but Al-Mahdi militia of course did ! Murders leading idiots and thieves, what should we expect?
How can we describe Muqtada and his followers? Murders? Thugs? Thieves? Robbers? Kidnappers?..I think all the above are fit..
The coalition and the GC must put an end to M.Al-Sadr and arrest him with his ‘representatives’ right now, he’s so dangerous, it’s silly to negotiate with a murder and wrong to postpone this issue, it must be finished before June 30. M.Al-Sadr is the real threat now, he’ll spoil Iraq in the future..it’s extremely necessary to get rid of him..
It’s told that many of his ‘representatives’ in other provinces were agents for Saddam, they exploited the trust of those who were attending to pray behind them in Mosques, so the people were going to AlBahadli or Alkhaza’li and other ‘religious leaders’ to talk with them in politics, religion..and such things, then when the ‘honest leaders’ find something ‘suspicious’ in those people, at once they pick a pen and write a report to be signed by Ba’thists, then those naive people were being arrested and executed..
........

I read on Al-Iraqia channel that Al-Najaf people arranged a demonstration against the chaos that Muqtada’s followers commit, then M.followers replied by firing at them! I’m waiting for the electric power to watch what happened exactly..

Those crazy murders are roaming in the cities so freely, come on, kill Muqtada and his thugs immediately..
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Gunslinger on May 11, 2004, 08:35:39 AM
wow....some good news.  Who'd a thaught we'd get some of that from Iraq.
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Udie on May 11, 2004, 08:44:27 AM
It's been there the whole time.  But these guys are just CIA operators ;)
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Gunslinger on May 11, 2004, 08:45:41 AM
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Originally posted by Udie
It's been there the whole time.  But these guys are just CIA operators ;)



[sarcasm mode]
LIES.....They are being paid by the coalition govt to protest.  That has to be it.  Things cant go well in Iraq.  That might make bush look good[/sarcasm mode]
:D
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Lizking on May 11, 2004, 09:00:53 AM
http://www.albawaba.com/main/index.ie.php3?lang=e

That is a good place for news, check it out.
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Yeager on May 11, 2004, 09:17:35 AM
where are the eurotoilets telling everyone this is all propoganda and the US will lose.  As the US always loses.  Just like SE Asia.
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: GRUNHERZ on May 11, 2004, 09:23:29 AM
AlSadr is a wonderful champion of the people!!!  Bad USA stop being mean to him...
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Nilsen on May 11, 2004, 09:41:36 AM
99.99999999% of the iraqi people want peace and prosperity..... they just wanna do it on their terms in their own country.
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Udie on May 11, 2004, 10:06:28 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Nilsen
99.99999999% of the iraqi people want peace and prosperity..... they just wanna do it on their terms in their own country.



that's fine and dandy but that's not going to happen until the fighting stops.
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Nilsen on May 11, 2004, 10:10:44 AM
so stop fighting them :D ...let em sort it out themselves
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Gunslinger on May 11, 2004, 10:12:09 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Nilsen
so stop fighting them :D ...let em sort it out themselves


You mean pull out and let the strongest person prevail.  Isnt that akin to anarchy?
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Nilsen on May 11, 2004, 10:18:10 AM
isnt the strongest prevailing there now too? :D
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: straffo on May 11, 2004, 10:21:09 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gunslinger
You mean pull out and let the strongest person prevail.  Isnt that akin to anarchy?


hahem no ,it's either dictature or perhaps tribalism but it's not anarchy (I mean theorical anarchy as described by the theorician)
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: vorticon on May 11, 2004, 10:31:02 AM
yay...



i'm suprised
Quote
where are the eurotoilets telling everyone this is all propoganda and the US will lose. As the US always loses. Just like SE Asia.


and where are the americans blaming all the troubles on the "useless UN" troops...
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Gunslinger on May 11, 2004, 10:50:33 AM
Quote
Originally posted by vorticon
yay...



i'm suprised

and where are the americans blaming all the troubles on the "useless UN" troops...


didnt the UN pull out of Iraq.
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: StabbyTheIcePic on May 11, 2004, 10:57:38 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Yeager
where are the eurotoilets telling everyone this is all propoganda and the US will lose.  As the US always loses.  Just like SE Asia.


We are setting ourselves up for a loss.
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Red Tail 444 on May 11, 2004, 02:08:46 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Gunslinger
You mean pull out and let the strongest person prevail.  Isnt that akin to anarchy?


No, that's capitalism :lol
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: lada on May 11, 2004, 02:40:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
AlSadr is a wonderful champion of the people!!!  Bad USA stop being mean to him...


Well you are guys quite big ignorants.

I guess this is probably for a first time, when you hear about him.




Anyway its fun to watch meeting of two idiots
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: lada on May 11, 2004, 02:42:57 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Nilsen
so stop fighting them :D ...let em sort it out themselves


pssst .. only great NON-evil american can sort it out.


are you teenager or what that you dont know it....
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: lada on May 11, 2004, 02:46:48 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Udie
that's fine and dandy but that's not going to happen until the fighting stops.


sure you are right.

so lets have a look who is fighting who overthere.....
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Tumor on May 11, 2004, 03:38:14 PM
Sadr's actually considered a dick-head by quite a few in Shia circles.  How he's survived this long is beyond me.
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: lada on May 11, 2004, 03:45:05 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Tumor
Sadr's actually considered a dick-head by quite a few in Shia circles.  How he's survived this long is beyond me.


he also recieved official warning from Iranian President, so he calmed down for some time.

Then Iran sent diplomat to Iraq to help US to sort out problems with Shiias.... Chatami urged US to provide him cover.

Few days later were Iranian diplomat killed and Sadr started to grow slowly again.


He can probably get a lot of more power and influence.
How?
Its simple. I fear that same things whitch happen in Iran in 70`s could happen in Iraq if US will not have balls to admit lose and bag out.
Whitch will lead to Bush's loose in public eyes. So it wont happen before he will find way how to do it and not to lose his face.
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: lada on May 11, 2004, 03:53:35 PM
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Originally posted by Udie



http://iraqataglance.blogspot.com/

 


nice link thanks... sooo...

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SO yeah hell what an average dentist from Baghdat :D
edit: First things whitch made me wonder is absence of arabic version
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: lada on May 11, 2004, 05:03:42 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Udie

Those crazy murders are roaming in the cities so freely, come on, kill Muqtada and his thugs immediately..


If you were born in Iraq, you could change Muqtada word for some other specific group of people and keep saying same stuff
(in that case you would do technicaly same, but you will be terrorist lover instead of honorable freedom spreader)

technicaly, there is so little difference between you and an average civilian supporting Muqtada.
Actualy only one difference is probably only yours geographic location and origin.
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Udie on May 11, 2004, 05:53:17 PM
lada where the hell are you from?   I could understand the last sentence and a big to you for that.  who the **** are you to say americans are no diferent than al sadr's criminals?  You from russia or something?
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: lada on May 11, 2004, 06:38:00 PM
gavarim i pa rusky, potrochu
wo yi shou han yi, (but not well :D )
a taky trochu po nasem ...

yeah that post missing a big portion of letters :D

will try to fix it
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: ravells on May 11, 2004, 06:38:56 PM
Czech Republic, I believe.

Ravs
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: Sixpence on May 11, 2004, 06:40:17 PM
Many have not liked him because of his extreme views, some seem to forget that Iraq is one of the more liberal of Arab nations and do not want to be like Saudi Arabia or Iran. No one likes to give up freedom(however limited) once they get a taste of it.
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: lada on May 11, 2004, 06:44:02 PM
Quote
Originally posted by ravells
Czech Republic, I believe.

Ravs


WTF ? .. one public secret less :D

got clue about second language ? :)
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: ravells on May 11, 2004, 06:51:16 PM
You have a very revealing handle :)

Aw hell, you said it earlier, but you're probably from the Sudatenland anyway :D

Ravs
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: lada on May 11, 2004, 07:12:31 PM
well Lada is girl name overhere :D

its so old that i do not know any girl with this name :)
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: ravells on May 11, 2004, 07:18:30 PM
It's also the name of company that built bloody good tanks in early WW2 and now builds budget cars. :D

btw...czech girls are yummy (the ones I've met anyway) and if they were called lada or skoda.....I'm sure they are all Ferraris!

Ravs
Title: Iragis Protesting Al Sadr
Post by: lada on May 11, 2004, 07:26:13 PM
Ferraris :rofl :rofl :rofl