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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: StabbyTheIcePic on May 11, 2004, 11:08:38 AM
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Way to revert back to a dictatorship.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/04/01/1080544629883.html?from=storyrhs
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The draft law prohibits rallies outside government buildings, embassies and international organisations, on main roads, near schools, hospitals, stadiums, concert halls and religious centres, and at pipelines and environmentally hazardous sites.
Sounds like something we could use here, quite frankly.
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but protesting on the sidewalk is still good...perfect
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Sounds like something we could use here, quite frankly.
Yea, freedoms are such a damn hassle. How dare people protest our government!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Sounds like something we could use here, quite frankly.
Saurdekar, millions of men and women have given their lives so people could have those freedoms that you suggest should disapear. Was their sacrifice in vain, has their contribution been knocked aside by your hand as irrelevant?
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Saurdekar, millions of men and women have given their lives so people could have those freedoms that you suggest should disapear. Was their sacrifice in vain, has their contribution been knocked aside by your hand as irrelevant?
Saud would rather us be run by a military dictatorship. You will have to ignore his statements.
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The draft law prohibits rallies outside government buildings, embassies and international organisations, on main roads, near schools, hospitals, stadiums, concert halls and religious centres, and at pipelines and environmentally hazardous sites.
Sounds great to me. If the 'God Sucks!' 'Eat Lettuce!' or 'Yay Gay!' crowd want to protest, they can stay off my streets and away from major centers of congregation so I can safely operate my motor vehicle without the temptation to open the drivers side door now and again.
Although I can understand why youre upset about not being able to shout "God is the Devil!" at the top of your lungs while giving vegan high fives in some of the local environmentally hazardous locations.
Bummer.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Sounds great to me. If the 'God Sucks!' 'Eat Lettuce!' or 'Yay Gay!' crowd want to protest, they can stay off my streets and away from major centers of congregation so I can safely operate my motor vehicle without the temptation to open the drivers side door now and again.
Although I can understand why youre upset about not being able to shout "God is the Devil!" at the top of your lungs while giving vegan high fives in some of the local environmentally hazardous locations.
Bummer.
If you dont like it you can geeeeeeeet out.
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What was it that Trent Lott said a couple years ago? You might want to dust the quote off, Saurdekar, as you can use it to bolster your case. Ah yes: "...if the rest of the country had followed our lead (in voting for Thurmond running on the Dixiecrat platform which stood in favor of segregation), we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either."
Indeed, if our constitutional protections were thrown aside as you suggest, Saurdekar, then in the 1960s we 'wouldn't have had all these problems' that brought about an end to segregation.
The bullet is in the chamber, why don't you pull the trigger?
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Originally posted by Chairboy
What was it that Trent Lott said a couple years ago? You might want to dust the quote off, Saurdekar, as you can use it to bolster your case. Ah yes: "...if the rest of the country had followed our lead (in voting for Thurmond running on the Dixiecrat platform which stood in favor of segregation), we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either."
Indeed, if our constitutional protections were thrown aside as you suggest, Saurdekar, then in the 1960s we 'wouldn't have had all these problems' that brought about an end to segregation.
The bullet is in the chamber, why don't you pull the trigger?
Saud is just giving other vets a bad name. Not all of them are democracy and freedom haters.
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So basically, because I dont think that protestors should be able to clog up major pipelines and rather important locations like... oh I dunno... a hospital... I've been labeled...
1.) A Racist
2.) A supporter of a military dictatorship
3.) As ungrateful to soldiers
4.) A very, very, bad man
Sttttrrrrrreeeeeetttccccchhhh h! :rofl
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
So basically, because I dont think that protestors should be able to clog up major pipelines and rather important locations like... oh I dunno... a hospital... I've been labeled...
1.) A Racist
2.) A supporter of a military dictatorship
3.) As ungrateful to soldiers
4.) A very, very, bad man
Sttttrrrrrreeeeeetttccccchhhh h! :rofl
no...they think those things because your previous posts seemed to be saying that you opposed ALL protests ANYWHERE...and that is the effect of your relatively poor wording and the "socialist hunting" attitude the other users seem to have...
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
So basically, because I dont think that protestors should be able to clog up major pipelines and rather important locations like... oh I dunno... a hospital... I've been labeled...
1.) A Racist
2.) A supporter of a military dictatorship
3.) As ungrateful to soldiers
4.) A very, very, bad man
Sttttrrrrrreeeeeetttccccchhhh h! :rofl
If you cannot respect the right to protest you are those things.
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I thought this was funny:
Liberals and communists branded it a blow against democracy just two weeks after...
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This is disgusting.
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This law is funny. "United Russia" party was a little bit too much eager to lick the prettythang of our beloved president. People said that according to this law people could be allowed to protest only in tundra in face of polar bears... Putin didn't sign this law and sent it back so they will "soften" it. It's funny that new version prohibits demostrations near presidental residences, so the May 1st demostrations in the Red Square supporting our beloved government and Party will be prohibited too ;)
Putin's inauguration on May, 7th was celebrated by National Bolshevik demonstration in the Bolshoy theatre, with Presidental Security beating teenage girls throwing propaganda leaflets around... It's the peak of idiocy so far.
A joke from four years ago: Comrade Putin loved the inauguration ceremony so much that he ordered himself a portable pocket inaugurator...
Unfortunately, happy ignorance of the idiots is the ideal social condition all over the world :(
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
So basically, because I dont think that protestors should be able to clog up major pipelines and rather important locations like... oh I dunno... a hospital... I've been labeled...
1.) A Racist
2.) A supporter of a military dictatorship
3.) As ungrateful to soldiers
4.) A very, very, bad man
Sttttrrrrrreeeeeetttccccchhhh h! :rofl
It could be funny if it wasn't so sad. With our beloved administration's habbit of licking any brass hat's prettythang this law will be used to cancel any demostration if it's not a protest against the opression of black minority in the United States...
Sorry for using this standard form of sarcasm from Soviet times...
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I think it's kinda funny. Not a single one of Saud's posts that I've read said that he's against protests. All I've read is that protesters should not be able to block traffic, or block entrance to the government building, or block a route to a hospital.
I think everybody is so obsessed with being free that nobody is concerned with respect or courtesy of others.
Those men and women died for us to be able to choose our religion, being able to speakout agains the government, get an education, open our own businesses. What they did NOT die for is some moron being able to put his and other lives at risk because he thinks that everybody should be eating vegetables for the rest of their lives.
May be the law above goes a bit too far, but some sort of leash has to be put on protestors.
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I agree.. they should not be able to block traffic or hospital entrances.
lazs
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The draft law prohibits rallies outside government buildings, embassies and international organisations, on main roads, near schools, hospitals, stadiums, concert halls and religious centres, and at pipelines and environmentally hazardous sites.
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Sounds like something we could use here, quite frankly.
Ah, but look at the quote Sardaukar agreed with. If his intention was only to say that you couldn't protest near hospitals, then I imagine he would have edited it appropriately.
Of course, changing ones statement to something more defensible in the face of debate is pretty common, I sincerely hope he's not doing that.
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Originally posted by lazs2
I agree.. they should not be able to block traffic or hospital entrances.
lazs
Well, if they block hospital entrances, I think at the very least, ambulance drivers transporting critically injured patients should be able to drive over them.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
So basically, because I dont think that protestors should be able to clog up major pipelines and rather important locations like... oh I dunno... a hospital... I've been labeled...
1.) A Racist
2.) A supporter of a military dictatorship
3.) As ungrateful to soldiers
4.) A very, very, bad man
Sttttrrrrrreeeeeetttccccchhhh h! :rofl
look its quite normal over here, since i were called terrorist because i were asking some questions, I were called Cyberterrorist today. (when i said that people are responsible per their computers :D )
:D
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Ah, but look at the quote Sardaukar agreed with. If his intention was only to say that you couldn't protest near hospitals, then I imagine he would have edited it appropriately.
Of course, changing ones statement to something more defensible in the face of debate is pretty common, I sincerely hope he's not doing that.
I still don't see a problem with it. Every one of those exceptions presents a situation that could be potentially hazardous(sp?) to those that are not part of the rally/protest. A student should not have to go through a crowd of protestors to get to school. An ambulance shouldn't have to go around a crowd to get to a hospital. A businessman should not have to push his way through a screaming bunch of activists to get through to city hall.
Of course the word "around" would have to be clearly defined as well.
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This is the first time Ive been fought over. You guys are the best! :)
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Can you feel the love yet? :D
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Can you feel the love yet? :D
save it for the con...
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You can’t protest wherever you want here in America either.
Abortion clinic protests for instance. Also the secret service sets up designated "protest zones" during presidential visits. Most of the time they are so far away from the "visit" to make them pointless.
Parades and rallies in most cities require permits as well.
All free speech hypocritical liberals are hilarious. How many of you euro folks in this live countries that ban "hate speech" etc.....
Freedom? What freedom? What governments offer is "liberty" which is the licensing of freedom. Each country has its own set of restrictions and requirements. Comply with those requirements or lose your license.
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Saur, I was with ya from your original post LOL.
And for you "other guys": it only takes a sec or two to actually read a post and consider the author's meaning before hitting the reply button.
;)
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Author's post usually is the only post I read....Or there must be fewer than 2 posts...
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Originally posted by Batz
How many of you euro folks in this live countries that ban "hate speech" etc.....
I dont see any Euro's posts here, Batz, before mine.
Unless you want to consider Russia part of Europe Community.
FYI it is not........... yet. :)
resistence is futile.... ;)
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How many of you Americans live in a country that bans nipples and/or any bad words on tv? :p
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Hmm you got a point there :p
Well I think I can consider myself one of the 'Euro folks' ;)
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Originally posted by lazs2
I agree.. they should not be able to block traffic or hospital entrances.
lazs
Then you agree to restrictions on your guns?
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Originally posted by frank3
Hmm you got a point there :p
Well I think I can consider myself one of the 'Euro folks' ;)
Ooops!!
Doh!
:)
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yes... I should not be able to block traffic or hospital entrances with my guns.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
yes... I should not be able to block traffic or hospital entrances with my guns.
lazs
Yeah, just putting all of its on the ground in front of the entrance will be enough for a barricade. :D
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dont see any Euro's posts here, Batz, before mine
Lada is, Thrawn is Canadian same thing....
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Originally posted by lazs2
yes... I should not be able to block traffic or hospital entrances with my guns.
lazs
That's like the same as killing dead people ;)