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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Hajo on May 11, 2004, 04:40:59 PM
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Yes.....missing the fun by not flying AH2. It's (IMHO) outstanding!
Was in MA Tuesday...Urchin, Shane, myself and Shamus. Text buffer chatter was about the conveyor belt of aircraft from A4 to A239. MA same old same old....which is ok if ya like that sort of thing. I asked if anyone wanted to go to AH2. Shane and Urchin
immediately said yes...Shamus said okie dokey also.
Got there found ManeTMP and Cavalear there already, among others.
I switched sides and Shamus and I flew a few 1 vs 1s in 109F4s.
AH Community this is where you are missing the fun! Fly AH2! The FM reminds me somewhat of the old FM....you pay the price for tugging to hard and you either spin, stall or both! No hitting the target from 1200.....hell....no hitting it from 200 if you don't lead correctly and configure trajectory with target and your movement.
Gun solutions not automatic...you have to earn the solution.
Shamus and I had a hoot! Took 75 fuel in 109F4s and we were both almost bingo when the fights finally finished.
Do yourself a favor...Get there....Get there now and experience the future of Aces High and enjoy as well as learn.
I can hear the distant whining now as the MA as it is now disappears and AH2 comes to fruition.
The Gunnery Sucks...My Plane doesn't fly right....I have rubber bullets....the whines are coming....and the time is closer then you think!
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- Hajo -
The Gunnery Sucks...My Plane doesn't fly right....I have rubber bullets....the whines are coming....and the time is closer then you think!
YES! YES! YES! - said in best Meg Ryan voice. :lol
I'm looking forward to waving byebye to all that gamey s#it - 800 yard spray shots and the like.
As for the whines, Hajo, you missed something: Don't forget all the account cancellation threats!!
(http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_72.gif)
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Are the CTD's fixed?
IKON
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Going to be a lot more than just threats... :D
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If the fm is like the old pre 1.03 or whatever FM then they will probly have to fix it.
So you think it will be more friendly toward late war planes and burning a full tank of fuel hiding from each other?
lazs
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Lazs
Just saying it's going to be more of a challenge. Gunnery isn't as easy as it is now. FM requires a little more thought when flying.
Flew the G10, F4, BF110/G2. 109F4, P38 and P47D30. Seems that all shared the same penalty for overtaxing their limits. You're going to spin, stall or both.
Even when flying a late war aircraft....gunnery is going to have to improve on the Pilots end.
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AH2 won't run on my system. So, its MA or CT until axed, then it'll be subsims and old offline sims thereafter.
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was on for a bit last night until "sick fiancee ack" got me. :rolleyes:
but I had the opportunity to try the mossie, the n1k and an La5.
FM is good (although I'm no expert) i learned from my first forray into AH2B not to yank the stick - La7 looked funny with wings snapped back. :lol:
Lost control of the Mossie as well last night due to over-anxious snap-shooting :o
My one big gripe is the clipboard. It's in the freaking way in the hangar. You can't rapidly up a mount if your field is about to get capped. :mad:
The unmanned field AAA is less accurate (kinda like an excited human on the other end) but when it does hit you - Kapow.
For those of you who have suitable hardware - come on over to the beta and try and break it.
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gofaster...If AH I runs then I'm betting AH II will run. Too many people, including myself, gave up too quickly on the Beta. Actually AH II when offered was more Alpha than Beta. My FPS are 12% higher in AH II that in AH I right now. One of my squaddies, Darknet, skinned the P-51 in 339th Historical Skins. He told me to get back in there. I did. I like it.
I'll say this. It really doesn't look much different on the surface then AH I. This might be because none of the cockpits have been changed. It's when you look left at your wing or look at the ground building details. At this point, the Sun looks better than in I but still has something to be desired. FM's I really can't tell as like the subject of this post....No one is there. I wish more would fly there so we can see the real AH II. In all, I think more has been done "Under-the-Hood".
Connects are the same. Cable, DSL, DialUp all are about the same as in AH I.
My $.02
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I played for a couple hours on Saturday. I really like the way it has progressed. There are a few issues here and there, but overall it seems to be coming along very nicely.
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Originally posted by gofaster
AH2 won't run on my system. So, its MA or CT until axed, then it'll be subsims and old offline sims thereafter.
A hardware upgrade is in the cards for me although I could not use AH2 as the excuse. There's a whole new wave of games coming out that'll finally tax my older hardware, Doom3 wont run without a DX9 certified card. Then there's HL2, and even the current game "Far Cry" forces me to turn some stuff off and run in 1024X768. It is about time if you ask me though, I have a 2 year old vid card (ti4400) and my proc is only a 2200.
As far as sub games go, I assume you're playing Enigma?
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Heh you'll need a LOT more than just a DX9 certified card to play DoomIII.
It runs playable only on the best of the best CPU and most expensive displaycard you can find. And probably even still it'll freeze up in tough situations.
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Come and fly tonight - 13th TAS always starts out in AHII Weds 9:00PM EST USA.
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Good time tonight. I think we had 28 in there at one point. Lookin good.
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Originally posted by nopoop
Good time tonight. I think we had 28 in there at one point. Lookin good.
its about damn time ;)
... now i just need to find some time and force my self BACK in there :)
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I haven't beem more excited about Aces High since I first started playing
So many new "little tid bits" its overwhelming at times. From bullet holes riddleing your plane, blood spatterd all over the cockpit from pilot wounds, oil all over the canopy from an oil hit.
You can now "de-ack" a CV group!!! LOL Kill the radar on it as well. There is just too many new and exciting things to list.
If you haven't started playing AH2 yet then you're really missing out folks.
Here's some pics of a CV in deacking process :P
Also radar is blown up and smoking like crazy!
(http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/ststang2/cv.jpg)
(http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/ststang2/cv1.jpg)
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can't wait for actual flames gfx instead of blinding by smoke only.
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actually there are flames... Tho I do think there is a bug here with the flames. I need to do some playing around before I can be sure. What seems to happen is when you destroy the radar tower on the CV. The flames apear but stay in that spot where the CV was when the radar tower was destroyed... And the CV moves along while the flames stay behind hoovering over the water :)
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What I like in AH2 best is the reduction of ack/buff gunner leathality. Now I can actually attack both of them without fully intending for it to be a suicide ride.
For some reason the ack has always had a taste for me, just last week I lost a 6 kill sortie to a heavy ack sending me to tower. And I've played something like 8 hours total in 2 months - it was the 2nd or 3rd time I even dared to go in ack range.
Humans I can deal with.. but my computer always seems to beat me with ack runs.
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Ok,
but I mean real sized flames of combustible fed by the open-air wind... not just an expanding black buff sprite:).
Siaf, you must be doing the same thing wrong each time if it gets you so much, I remember deacking a large field was the easiest thing I could do when I first started AH. Now I do about as bad as you describe.
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AH 2 ROCKS
Good point Hajo, need more ppl in there!
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I don't know.. if the FM makes it even harder for early war planes I will probly like it even less than the current horde warriors that is AHI..
Mostly it seems that the guys who don't fly anything like me like AHII.
mostly tho.. my puter is getting outdated.. don't really need less framerate. Don't care to set up for AHII till I have to and then I guess I will decide if it is fun for me or not. Most of what I have heard doesn't sound that fun tho.
lazs
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Wed night (5/12) I counted 31 on the roster. 19 rooks, 11 bish, and 1 nit. Great fun in there! The way the patches and the game is going the launch date may be coming up fast.
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Lazs2 i do not understand why you think it will make it even harder for early war planes.
I think it was Urchin flying a zeke in AH2 the other day and a right pain in the bellybutton he was too :)
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two things... urchin is a little more talented than the average and... UK guys like AH2... for the most part... if UK guys like something in AH.... I don't.
lazs
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
actually there are flames... Tho I do think there is a bug here with the flames. I need to do some playing around before I can be sure.
Yeah, maybe you should take a group of B17's over to the CV and... oops.
:eek:
Sorry about wreckin that '17 run for ya Morph, but you did de-Spit me a few times so we're even..
Slappy told me to do it!!
:aok
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I played some AH2 last night. It's good fun, but I still don't notice anything remarkably different about the gunnery. Some things in the game itself have changed, like the inability to see hit sprites when a plane is under your nose and out of sight. That doesn't necessarily make gunnery more difficult, but you do have to adjust to it.
I expect that most players, after a brief period of getting used to the gameplay and flight model differences in AH2, will find that their hit percentages mirror those in AH1.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by lazs2
I don't know.. if the FM makes it even harder for early war planes I will probly like it even less than the current horde warriors that is AHI..
Mostly it seems that the guys who don't fly anything like me like AHII.
mostly tho.. my puter is getting outdated.. don't really need less framerate. Don't care to set up for AHII till I have to and then I guess I will decide if it is fun for me or not. Most of what I have heard doesn't sound that fun tho.
lazs
Lazs ... come on now. I DO fly planes like you. Poop and Levi were in there last night and we seemed to be having fun ... for the most part ... eh Lev ?
I have spend a good amount of time in AH II and I can testify that the FM has not neutered the early war planes. Ask Lev too.
The Spit V is fine, the Hurri is fine, and the F6F is a monster. Only caveat is that Pyro has hobbled the FM2 by turning off WEP. We are hoping that he has a heart and turns it back on.
Lazs ... my grandmother use to say ... "You can't con a conner". Drop the excuses, get up off your ***, and get in there ... ;)
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I'd go in there more, but outside US prime time, the arena is deserted. Still, I've just DLed Beta29, and will probably practise offline at least.
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Other than getting my arse shot off by all the same guys that shoot my arse off in AHI, I didnt see anything wrong with AHII last night.
I wasnt much more help than a target drone to distract guys so Levi and others could kill 'em but I had fun anyway. :)
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Yeah that was a blast last night. When I logged in I saw 19 other guys already online. Was awsome.
to everyone, great fights.
It's like a mini CT with a lot better planes, a much better FM and some better graphics.
Skins kick prettythang - it is much cooler flying and seeing different skins. and keep up the good work skinners!!!!
Can't wait till this goes live!
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Originally posted by dracon
It's when you look left at your wing or look at the ground building details.
This is what bothers me about AH2...I run a decent box and - with the settings adjusted to increase playability - I STILL CAN'T SEE THE FREAKIN' BUILDINGS until I'm very close to them. If I want to bomb (level or dive), I need to see the buildings a lot sooner than I can in AH2 right now.
It's annoying.
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Originally posted by beet1e
I'd go in there more, but outside US prime time, the arena is deserted. Still, I've just DLed Beta29, and will probably practise offline at least.
Last night it wasn't deserted, Beetle. When I logged in for a while there were more players than I had ever seen before in there - 19 I think. That's more than the CT usually has at a similar time. :)
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Last 2 nights from approx 9pm UK there have been 15 and up players in AH2.
Lazs did you mean "UK guys (Beetle) like AH2... for the most part... if UK guys (Beetle) like something in AH.... I don't."
I hear you like a fight well your not the only one.
We agreed to fight between A4 and A5, close bases not much alt gained between them.
From memory Shane, Urchin, Manetmp, Hajo, Pyro albeit in buffs and several others, now if you still can't get a fight you like its not because the opportunity is not there.
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well... if lev and slap say it is ok then that is a relief... much better than "it reminds me of the old pre 1.03 FM" or... "it's great... you can't hit anything with the guns and the planes fall out of the sky if you try to turn..."
but... My puter is marginal and...even if it weren't... I'm lazy..If I had to change controls and mapping and such I probly still wouldn't go in there till I had absolutely no choice.
I take it you can't just log on and play with all the same controls and mapping you are using for AH.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
well... if lev and slap say it is ok then that is a relief... much better than "it reminds me of the old pre 1.03 FM" or... "it's great... you can't hit anything with the guns and the planes fall out of the sky if you try to turn..."
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The flight model definitely does not remind me of anything approaching early AH1. If anything, each revision seems to make it feel more like the current Aces High we know and love. Plus the things that make gunnery marginally more difficult really are more bug fixes than anything; we shouldn't be able to see hit sprites beneath our field of view, and they correct for that.
but... My puter is marginal and...even if it weren't... I'm lazy..If I had to change controls and mapping and such I probly still wouldn't go in there till I had absolutely no choice.
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Just install AH2 and then copy over your Settings folder from AH1. That will transfer all of your stick setups, stick mappings, key mappings, graphics settings, etc. You shouldn't have to set up any of that over again.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by lazs2
well... if lev and slap say it is ok then that is a relief... much better than "it reminds me of the old pre 1.03 FM" or... "it's great... you can't hit anything with the guns and the planes fall out of the sky if you try to turn..."
but... My puter is marginal and...even if it weren't... I'm lazy..If I had to change controls and mapping and such I probly still wouldn't go in there till I had absolutely no choice.
I take it you can't just log on and play with all the same controls and mapping you are using for AH.
lazs
Man ... glad you came clean ... I'm lazy.
For every release of Beta, I have downloaded and installed the FULL install over the top of the last FULL install.
It installs itself into \Aces High II directory so there is no conflict with AH I.
I then copy my \sights \settings and \sounds folders from AH I directly into the new AH II install. Everything that I have setup in AH I is directly imported into AH II and I have yet to have any problems with this proceedure.
Your computer may be marginal ... key word "may" ... you won't really know until you get up off your bellybutton and TRY IT !!!
Oh .. about the FM ... everytime Toad flies in AH II he is astounded by the flight model. He can't stop saying how "real" the planes feel. I take his word for it. He would know far better than me ... thats for sure.
All in all, yes the FM is different, but not insurmountable and definately enjoyable.
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Now, Slap... don't exaggerate.
I said I think it is much improved and much better than AH1. I particularly like the "feel" at low speeds and low speeds/high AOA.
I personally think the FM improvements are the star of the show for me. I like the new look and all but I like the new feel even better.
Gunnery? Dunno. I still shot out a P-38's left motor at 800 yards on my range-o-meter. Hit sprites are smaller, true but I don't think anyone is going to have that much trouble adapting their shooting from AH1 to AH2. As someone said, in a short while I think hit % will be about the same for most guys.
From last night, I'd say AH2 is just about ready for "prime time". I'm sure they will continue some updates and other outright improvments, but I think they could put this show on the road right in to the MA anytime now.
The one BIG question is....... what about the gameplay? Is there a plan to change "strat"?
AH2 or not, I'd like to see us get away from the "join-my-huge- mission-steamroller-to-reset-golly-gee-we-WON-the-war-WooHoo-perkies-for-all" gameplay model.
Let's do some FIGHTING! ;)
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Now, Slap... don't exaggerate.
Oh ... OK ... was just trying to get the lazy dog excited and see if he'll hunt.
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Originally posted by Mr. Toad
The one BIG question is....... what about the gameplay? Is there a plan to change "strat"?
No! So we'll still be able to have our gameplay pow-wows on the BBS. You surely don't want to give those up, do you? :D;)
I wonder if we'll still have the pizza map in AH2...
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I wonder if we'll still have the pizza map in AH2...
Dear God I hope not
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It is good. I haven't seen anything I don't like about it. I was online tonight for about 45 mins. One interesting moment came when I was chasing Gixer's 205 in my F6F. I followed his zoom but as I wanted to fire, the sun made the canopy glare and I couldn't see Gixer's dot even at 400/200. (I assure you that canopy glare is realistic) I fired anyway, saw no sprites but got kill credit minutes later - was surprised. Later a Spit chased me but couldn't land a 600/400 spray shot (it just gets better!).
I was getting 160fps :eek: But the horizon was wavy, so someone said press Shift+F3. That fixed the problem. Frame rate dropped to about 90 though, but I notice that AH2 uses more of the available 128MB vid card memory - 57MB of it against only about 28MB in AH1. This is good - I've bought the resources for the game to use, not stand idle.
I typed "shift+F3 worked - tnx", and inadvertently dropped the F in "shift". :o I thought I was going to get squelched for 10 mins! :lol But the swear filter is not enabled it seems, and my message appeared in the TB unedited.
SOB was there! Was getting ready to dogfight him, dumped my DT and Doh! - accidentally cut my engine.
Ecke,SOB,Roscorro,Gixer et al.
Lazs! What CPU do you have and what video card? We'd love to see you in AH2. However, Rosc was getting CTD when flying near the CV - lots of rendering going on. Last time I had a CTD was when my CPU was being pushed too hard (inadvertent overclock). Rosc then said he doesn't have a problem with his newer system (AMD 2.2), so Lazs - we need to find out what you have in your box and maybe upgrade it. Or else you'll just have to pedal harder.
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I had acceptable frame rates running a 1.2 AMD with 512 of ram. Old Nvidia GF2 pro card.
Was getting 41 in the tower. Tweak, recheck etc..
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Had a blast today .. Great Fights guys .
(yea i ctd in heavy ack , near cv's , or after dropping troops )
1.3 amd, gf 2 mx 400 , 54.xx det's, dx 9.0b, win 98se with sp1.5 on it . fixit utilities AV running .
I'll get my 2.2 ghz with the ti 4600 and try it tommorrow .
it could be my av program causing the ctd's also
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it could be my av program causing the ctd's also
Damnn, those av programs!
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Er, we're talking about Adult Video progs, right? :D
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slap... I admitted I was lazy. For some reason.. I don't want to work hard at a game on a puter. If I wanted to work I woulda stayed at work and made some money on the deal.
I will wait till there is only the option of AH2 or there is no one left in AHI.. at that point I will probly try it. If it won't run on my puter or is no fun then I will wait for the next sim or puter.
lazs
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man i hope AH2 will work on ym kind of sysetem:rolleyes:
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Someone post a picture of that blood, I need to see it! :D
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Originally posted by Lazer
Someone post a picture of that blood, I need to see it! :D
Check out this thread ...
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116312
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Cool looking.. thanks slap! :D
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Originally posted by beet1e
I was getting 160fps :eek: But the horizon was wavy, so someone said press Shift+F3. That fixed the problem. Frame rate dropped to about 90 though, but I notice that AH2 uses more of the available 128MB vid card memory - 57MB of it against only about 28MB in AH1. This is good - I've bought the resources for the game to use, not stand idle.
Beetle -
I'm curious about your video settings as memory usage is double for me. Slapshot and I, having essentially the exact same systems, compare our "CTRL-I" readouts in AH2 each time a new beta arrives or we make a video change (drivers, FSAA, tweaks, etc) on our ATI 128 meg cards. What we see is approx. 120MB of video memory in use, sometimes around 116 but usually closer to 120. Framerates seem to stay averaging around 75-80, maxing out at 100 because we keep VSync ON to avoid the graphical issues that arise from lack of sync. We run in 1280x1024 32 bit, and use 6X FSAA and 16X Anistropic Filtering, which are the maximum settings for our cards.
Our specs read:
PIV 3gz (800mz FSB)
1 GB PC3200
2 - 120GB 7200 RPM - RAID 0
Sapphire ATI 9500 (non-pro) Softmodded to 9700
Omega's latest drivers (4.4 until 4.5 Omega's arrive, ATI Cats out now)
Viesonic 22" P225fb Monitor
CH USB HOTAS
Thanks!
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Originally posted by Icer
Beetle -
I'm curious about your video settings as memory usage is double for me. Slapshot and I, having essentially the exact same systems, compare our "CTRL-I" readouts in AH2 each time a new beta arrives or we make a video change (drivers, FSAA, tweaks, etc) on our ATI 128 meg cards. What we see is approx. 120MB of video memory in use, sometimes around 116 but usually closer to 120. Framerates seem to stay averaging around 75-80, maxing out at 100 because we keep VSync ON to avoid the graphical issues that arise from lack of sync. We run in 1280x1024 32 bit, and use 6X FSAA and 16X Anistropic Filtering, which are the maximum settings for our cards.
Our specs read:
PIV 3gz (800mz FSB)
1 GB PC3200
2 - 120GB 7200 RPM - RAID 0
Sapphire ATI 9500 (non-pro) Softmodded to 9700
Omega's latest drivers (4.4 until 4.5 Omega's arrive, ATI Cats out now)
Viesonic 22" P225fb Monitor
CH USB HOTAS
Thanks!
Icer,
I've just done some more tests. These were offline, as my program (Beta29) is out of date as of this morning and I won't have time to update till later.
In an F6F climbing out from a base with only sky and sea visible, the frame rate was 164. Turning back to face the drones, with ack smoke and bullet rendering going on, the fps dropped to 75. I continued past the field so that the view was half land (no objects) and half sea. Fps went back up to 147.
I'm running AH2 at the same resolution as you are.
I've checked my Vsync setting (took a while to find it!) and its status is given as "always OFF". Can you tell me what changes I might see if this were set ON?
My monitor is a iiyama VM-Pro454 running at 85Hz. Some monitors don't have the refresh rate to support advanced hardware, which is why I upgraded the monitor.
My hardware: Asus A7N8X-DLX mobo, AMD XP2600 CPU, 512MB RAM, ATi Radeon 9600 etc. OS is W2000 Pro with SP4 and all subsequent updates applied.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Icer,
I've just done some more tests. These were offline, as my program (Beta29) is out of date as of this morning and I won't have time to update till later.
In an F6F climbing out from a base with only sky and sea visible, the frame rate was 164. Turning back to face the drones, with ack smoke and bullet rendering going on, the fps dropped to 75. I continued past the field so that the view was half land (no objects) and half sea. Fps went back up to 147.
I'm running AH2 at the same resolution as you are.
I've checked my Vsync setting (took a while to find it!) and its status is given as "always OFF". Can you tell me what changes I might see if this were set ON?
My monitor is a iiyama VM-Pro454 running at 85Hz. Some monitors don't have the refresh rate to support advanced hardware, which is why I upgraded the monitor.
My hardware: Asus A7N8X-DLX mobo, AMD XP2600 CPU, 512MB RAM, ATi Radeon 9600 etc. OS is W2000 Pro with SP4 and all subsequent updates applied.
I'll jump in here in Icer's absence ... he is the expert but I will give it a go.
Here is what our settings page looks like ...
(http://pages.cthome.net/crzn22/Misc/3d.jpg)
Notice the "Wait for VSync".
Yours is OFF and that is why you are getting those abnormally high framrates. This can cause problems, such as rubber bullets, tearing, etc. Then again, it might not. Kind of a gamble.
If you set it like we have, you will only get 85 fps at the max cause that is what your refresh rate on the monitor is set at. 85 FPS is a very liveable framerate.
Our monitors support 100Hz so that is why we get 100 FPS and never anymore than that. If we set VSync OFF, I can get FPS in the 200+ range.
Our cards are ATI Sapphire 9500s softmodded to 9700s.
Also, we use the ATI drivers from http://www.omegacorner.com. These are offical ATI drivers tweaked especially for gaming. We have been using these drivers from day one and have never experienced any problems with them. They have, as far as we are concerned, been a godsend to our cards.
Just the other day we applied this tweak to our cards ...
http://www.elitebastards.com/page.php?pageid=4533&head=1&comments=1
This enables Temporal Anti-Aliasing on ATI cards (not all cards support it). It's a little known enhancement on some ATI cards that is normally turned off. It has made a significant difference on our computers. All lines are so much smoother. AH II looks fabulous with this turned on.
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Slap - I've been out all day, just got in but going straight out again. Short of time, so...
... would those Omega drivers work with my ATi Radeon 9600?
Rubber bullets - was a big problem with WB, but not AH. I think it's more down to the connect. I get 150ms, so I'm OK. But I do know that my guns are better if flying on a T1 - like at a con or something. I'll wait to hear from you about the drivers, then I'll probably install 'em, turn ON Vsync, and then repeat the tests. That will probably be tomorrow evening.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Slap - I've been out all day, just got in but going straight out again. Short of time, so...
... would those Omega drivers work with my ATi Radeon 9600?
Rubber bullets - was a big problem with WB, but not AH. I think it's more down to the connect. I get 150ms, so I'm OK. But I do know that my guns are better if flying on a T1 - like at a con or something. I'll wait to hear from you about the drivers, then I'll probably install 'em, turn ON Vsync, and then repeat the tests. That will probably be tomorrow evening.
I be back..
The answer is yes Beetle, the Omega drivers are modified ATI Cats so they are made for all ATI Radeons. Read the readme file, as you will need to uninstall the ATI Control Panel before installing the Omega's if I remember correctly. Once you run the Omega's then upgrading to next Omega version is just running the install. As you can see from Slap's settings he has VSnyc at Applicvation Preference. I run with it "Always On" as I don't think any apps control it normally anyway. You will see you FR pegged at 85 FPS once you do this.
Give it a shot and let us know what you think.
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I dont see any problems with AH2 Hurricane Mk1. Well, its still darn slow:D
About 70fps @ 1280*1024/16 with low detail level.
1.5MHz
512M RAM
GF4 4200 Ti 64M
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I find p51 in AH2 easier to fly than AH1... more forgiving... and the wing doesn't drop whenever it feels like it..
SKurj
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Originally posted by Icer
I be back..
The answer is yes Beetle, the Omega drivers are modified ATI Cats so they are made for all ATI Radeons. Read the readme file, as you will need to uninstall the ATI Control Panel before installing the Omega's if I remember correctly. Once you run the Omega's then upgrading to next Omega version is just running the install. As you can see from Slap's settings he has VSnyc at Applicvation Preference. I run with it "Always On" as I don't think any apps control it normally anyway. You will see you FR pegged at 85 FPS once you do this.
Give it a shot and let us know what you think.
I've tried AH2 with the VSync setting "always ON". Yep, frame rate pegged at 75. I've since downloaded those Omega drivers, but it's an .EXE file not a .ZIP - where is the readme file? Do I have to run the .EXE? At what point does the readme file become available?
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Beetle.....make sure you not only uninstall the current drivers but
ALSO uninstall ATI Control panel before installing the New Omega
Drivers.
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Originally posted by Hajo
Beetle.....make sure you not only uninstall the current drivers but
ALSO uninstall ATI Control panel before installing the New Omega
Drivers.
Hmmm... I thought the modern video driver packages did all that uninstallation for you. That was certainly the case with my ATi Radeon driver package when I put in the Rad-9600. I know that in years gone by you really had to do a fine toothcomb cleanup job - purging registry entries etc. But I thought those days were gone.
So you're saying I can't just install the Omega drivers over the top?
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very nice i was actually able to connect to the ma and fly. usually i get host disco soon as i hit the ma. only problem though....my system isnt quite big enough to play ah2. i got into it with a temp and spit i think near an nmy base. first i dropped on the town with n1k eggs. i dropped and framerate to to 1. i engaged the 2 cons and ended up dieing cause framerate was hovering at around 1 cause nasty lag like creature to pop its head.
love to start playing ah2 but at the moment but aint got the cash to upgrade cpu. gonna cost about 200 just to be able to play it without a problem.... so its gonna be a while.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Hmmm... I thought the modern video driver packages did all that uninstallation for you. That was certainly the case with my ATi Radeon driver package when I put in the Rad-9600. I know that in years gone by you really had to do a fine toothcomb cleanup job - purging registry entries etc. But I thought those days were gone.
So you're saying I can't just install the Omega drivers over the top?
Beetle -
ATI's standard CAT's release deals with the Control Panel overwrite. Omega's do it differently, so Omega wants you to simply uninstall ATI Control Panel (use "ADD/Remove Programs " in Windows CP), then run the new Omega driver .exe file. Once you go with Omega's driver set you don't ever have to do anything but run his latest install EXE. If, for some reason you want to go back to ATI CATs just install them right over Omega's, leaving ATI Control Panel (Omega's version of it) in place. If you have a problem or questions I would be happy to walk you through it real time using Teamspeak, just let me know.
Here is the readme, edited for your use.. and a link to the file itself.
REMINDERS:
1- If you have the normal ATI drivers installed, uninstall the ATI Control Panel
BEFORE upgrading to these drivers, the Omega Drivers already have the CP integrated
and another CP will cause conflicts or other problems.
2- There is no need to uninstall ANY previous drivers (ATI or OMEGA) when
installing these, they will override any previous settings.
3- In Windows 2k/XP, ALWAYS disable DDC in the ATI "Displays/Monitor" CP after
installing drivers to be able to use ALL the refresh rates and resolutions
your monitor supports, also this is the best way to avoid the 60Hz RR bug.
4- The WDM drivers for VIVO and AIW cards are not included, but they can be
downloaded separately from a link in my drivers page.
5- The Radeon cards do support FastWrites and they will work with it on
(on some machines), but it is not recommended, there is NO SPEED gain
when using FW, and this option will affect your PC's stability a LOT,
most game crashes and problems are because FW is enabled.
I don't recomend the use of ANY external tweakers with my drivers (specially Rage3D
tweaker), as they override my special settings and will make my work useless. The only
time I recommend a tweaker is when you have a specific problem with a specific tweak
and need to change it in order to make the drivers work correctly. Also if you use
a tweaker for overclocking, FSAA, Gamma or Aniso settings, is just fine, but you'll
be better off using the integrated ATI CP for that (which is ok by me if you change
any setting in it).
http://www.omegacorner.com/radeon_omega_drivers.txt
:aok
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I've installed the Omega drivers, having uninstalled the ATi control panel. I have set VSync to always ON, but I have not yet applied that Anti-Aliasing tweak mentioned later.
Still getting a frame rate of around 74. Still using only 35MB of the video card memory. Everything looks exactly as it did before.
:confused:
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Originally posted by beet1e
I've installed the Omega drivers, having uninstalled the ATi control panel. I have set VSync to always ON, but I have not yet applied that Anti-Aliasing tweak mentioned later.
Still getting a frame rate of around 74. Still using only 35MB of the video card memory. Everything looks exactly as it did before.
:confused:
The Omega's based on the latest CAT's (4.5) have just been released, not sure if you got those or not. Be sure to set AA to at least 4X and Anistropic to 8X (under Direct3D Tab), not Application preference. I'm currently running 6X and 16X and getting great framerates.
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Originally posted by Icer
The Omega's based on the latest CAT's (4.5) have just been released, not sure if you got those or not. Be sure to set AA to at least 4X and Anistropic to 8X (under Direct3D Tab), not Application preference. I'm currently running 6X and 16X and getting great framerates.
I've made those two changes and, sure enough, 70MB of the video card is now being used instead of around 30MB!
Better still, for the first time since I entered Flightsimdom, the trailing edge of a wing looks straight - instead of looking like a hacksaw blade! :cool:
Frame rate is as before at around 74.
I'm not going to have much time for AH in the coming week, but I'll be sure to let you know how things turn out. (Hehe, we have a TAS member flying in from Bermuda who I hope to meet next week)
Many thanks -
Beet1e