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Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: Ripsnort on May 12, 2004, 09:12:17 AM
http://www.indystar.com/articles/7/145616-6437-031.html

On a 59-40 vote in the GOP-controlled Senate, they fell just shy of the 60 votes needed to overcome objections that extending the benefits violated last year's budget agreement.

Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, was the only senator who missed the vote. Kerry was campaigning Tuesday in Kentucky.
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: Sixpence on May 12, 2004, 09:15:12 AM
What was the voting among party lines?
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: capt. apathy on May 12, 2004, 09:17:32 AM
or you could blame those other 40 who voted directly against it.  but I suppose if you looking for anything you can find to blame on him you'll find it.  even when there are 40 others readily at hand who where much more responsable than he was (they did vote against it as apossed to not voting at all).  I'll go out on a limb here and guess that the reason we aren't blaming those 40 right now is because they are republicans, right?
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: Westy on May 12, 2004, 09:24:28 AM
bingo Capt apathy ;)

 And why on earth would the government extend benefits in this time of a supposedly booming economy and where hundreds of thousands of new jobs are reportedly being created each month?
 If the government cut benefits across the board we'd all probably save at least a few bucks per month from the lower taxes.
 Add that bonus to the future boon of 15 cents less per gallon of gasoline and I dare say my vote could swing towards reelecting Bush/Cheney and Rumsfield!

(well, toss in a lobotomy too and I might vote for him)
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: Ripsnort on May 12, 2004, 09:24:52 AM
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
or you could blame those other 40 who voted directly against it.  but I suppose if you looking for anything you can find to blame on him you'll find it.  even when there are 40 others readily at hand who where much more responsable than he was (they did vote against it as apossed to not voting at all).  I'll go out on a limb here and guess that the reason we aren't blaming those 40 right now is because they are republicans, right?


Democrats tried to attach the benefit to a corporate tax bill.

Yep, we could probably blame the others too ;)
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: capt. apathy on May 12, 2004, 09:26:51 AM
it was the likely the only chance to get a majority vote in a republican controled senate.
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: Eagler on May 12, 2004, 09:38:43 AM
the point it skerry kerry pushed for the crap then couldn't schedule his time to make sure it passed

sounds like poor time management  - for he and his staff

a blackeye for mini-jfk
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: Batz on May 12, 2004, 09:59:30 AM
Why doesn't Kerry just give up his Senate seat? Bob Dole did...

He could fake resign, maybe turn in teddy's papers whiler claiming they are his own?
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: capt. apathy on May 12, 2004, 10:02:00 AM
maybe Bush could resign too, so he wouldn't have to take time off from his job to campaign either.  ( not that he ever really needed much of a reason to take some more time off)
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: Batz on May 12, 2004, 10:04:00 AM
Bush is still able to do his job while campaigning Kerry isnt, this aint aint he 1st vote he has missed...
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: Thud on May 12, 2004, 11:29:15 AM
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Originally posted by Batz
Bush is still able to do his job


 :confused:
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: Red Tail 444 on May 12, 2004, 12:06:55 PM
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Originally posted by Batz
Bush is still able to do his job while campaigning Kerry isnt, this aint aint he 1st vote he has missed...


Bush's job is remembering his lines while Cheney and Rummy are calling the shots. As lons as he keeps answering every question with "stay the course" he'll be just fine.

PS  June 30 is only about Nov. 2.
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: Tarmac on May 12, 2004, 12:52:46 PM
Wait, why do we want unemployment benefits again?

The government shouldn't be in the insurance business anyway.
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: Steve on May 12, 2004, 12:54:18 PM
Maybe the people on unemployment should just get a job.  This way the whole thing would become moot.
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: mosgood on May 12, 2004, 12:57:21 PM
A HA!

I finally figured it out!!  Rip... you're actually a Democrat in an undercover operation to make people think all republicans are automotons!!!  

Busted!!!!!

:D
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: Gunslinger on May 12, 2004, 12:58:02 PM
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Bush's job is remembering his lines while Cheney and Rummy are calling the shots. As lons as he keeps answering every question with "stay the course" he'll be just fine.

PS  June 30 is only about Nov. 2.


Wasnt it the UN and the democrats that support it ranting and raving about a timeline.  IRC they were crying about setting a date a date was set and it wasnt acceptable to them?
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: rpm on May 12, 2004, 02:13:13 PM
I give it a 1.5 on the Ripsnort Stinkbait scale. Far below the minimum requirement.
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: CMC Airboss on May 13, 2004, 03:08:06 PM
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Originally posted by Batz
Why doesn't Kerry just give up his Senate seat? Bob Dole did...

He could fake resign, maybe turn in teddy's papers whiler claiming they are his own?


Clearly, Kerry decided to give up his Senate seat before he decided not to.

MiG
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: Hajo on May 13, 2004, 03:13:00 PM
If you remember....Congress adjourned for the Holidays last year and failed to vote on extending unemployment benefits before they adjourned.

One state...Wisconsin voluntarily extended their benefits in hopes that Congress would pass to extend.

Folks....it isn't one party that doesn't care, it's both...by the way, in the last 7 years they've voted raises for themselves 4 times.
This fact alone should tell you how much they care about the everyday working american........they've got theirs, why should they worry about you getting your meager unemployment benefits if needed??
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: Red Tail 444 on May 13, 2004, 03:46:22 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Wasnt it the UN and the democrats that support it ranting and raving about a timeline.  IRC they were crying about setting a date a date was set and it wasnt acceptable to them?


Yes, but if the handover occurs on time, then we managed to adhere to our timetable, regardless of the fact that there's no way Iraq is ready for self-rule again.

OTOH, if we don't turn it over on time, regardless of what the situation is, I believe that it only adds  more credibility to the argument that we've got a tar baby on our hands.
Title: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: capt. apathy on May 13, 2004, 04:56:27 PM
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from msnbc Pentagon seeks increased financing for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2005, but some senators alarmed over issuing a ‘blank check’ to the Bush administration.


if we are pulling out in June why would we need 50B to spend there next year?
Title: Re: Unemployment benefits not extended: Thank Kerry
Post by: strk on May 13, 2004, 05:54:17 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
http://www.indystar.com/articles/7/145616-6437-031.html

On a 59-40 vote in the GOP-controlled Senate, they fell just shy of the 60 votes needed to overcome objections that extending the benefits violated last year's budget agreement.

Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, was the only senator who missed the vote. Kerry was campaigning Tuesday in Kentucky.


my my what a crock

Look closer Rip, because that vote was a scam.  Repubs changed votes knowing they had were going to prevail.  They got together and counted their votes beforehand of course.  Then a few change so it looks closer than it really was.  Its not a new trick.  It is an illusion to make Kerry look bad, and it fools the ignorant and misinformed while providing fodder for the other side.  

Smoke and mirrors

Kerry has already responded that he would bring the vote back to the floor if those repubs would not change their votes.  We shall see, but I bet they won't bite.