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Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: Mister Fork on May 13, 2004, 10:40:51 PM
Germany, February 1945

Hitler is considering his last options as the Allies pour into Germany from the north east and west.  America makes a huge push into the Rhine trying to get to Berlin before Russia.  Britian lends a hand by providing a few fighter squadrons. The feared Me-262 is known to be near the front lines.


Allies
B-17
B-26
C-47A
P-38L
P-47D-11
P-47D-25
P-47D-30
P-51B
P-51D
Mosquito
Typhoon
Tempest (limited fields)
Sherman(Panzer)
M-26 Pershing (Tiger)
M Series
Ostie

Axis
Ar 234B
Ju-88
Ju-52 (C-47)
Bf 109G-6
Bf 109G-10
Fw 190A-8
Fw 190D-9
Fw 190F-8
Me 262 (100 perks each)
Ta 152H (limited fields)
Tiger
Panzer

Settings
Map: Germany
Fuel 1.2
Dar: Historical
External Views: all off
Capture: 20 troops
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: Slash27 on May 13, 2004, 10:47:47 PM
Me 262 (100 perks each)

100?  How a-boot 50?:D




Nice set up:aok
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: TrueKill on May 13, 2004, 10:57:50 PM
what about the ME-163 for like 25 or 50 perks :aok
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: storch on May 13, 2004, 11:05:35 PM
how about it's awesome leave it be.
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: TrueKill on May 13, 2004, 11:07:42 PM
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how about it's awesome leave it be.


but i waaannntttt myyyy rocket :D
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: Grits on May 13, 2004, 11:20:06 PM
Hmmm....got enough to auger 9 1/2 262's...
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: TrueKill on May 13, 2004, 11:50:29 PM
yea its a good idea to make em 100 perks so every1s not im the jet all week only the good pilots can get them all week like in real life but i think they should perk the AR234s 25perks for 1 and 75 4 a formation just so we can get rid of these dam perks oh and the tigers for both sides like 25 or 50 and the typhoon and temp like 30 i have to many perks and all there doin is building up i want to see all of them down to 0 by the weeks end :D i just dont like every dweeb getting a temp or a typh and the tiger if u do that then it will be a GREAT setup :aok
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: artik on May 13, 2004, 11:59:04 PM
Looks like nice setup...
262 - 100 perks . I think it is better to reset perks.... at least once a month.
I have now more perks than at MA......
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: TrueKill on May 14, 2004, 12:11:12 AM
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262 - 100 perks . I think it is better to reset perks.... at least once a month.


i dont think they should cuz then every1 will just be flyin 262s and temps
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: memnon on May 14, 2004, 02:09:57 AM
Well with the external views off al least no one will be getting any bomber kills because no one will be flying them.
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: TrueKill on May 14, 2004, 02:16:51 AM
oh yea forgot about that guess no AR234 flying 4 me :(
thats what i was saying on the other post why have the AR234 when u cant see what ur shooting at with the rear gun?
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: Oleg on May 14, 2004, 03:05:32 AM
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Originally posted by memnon
Well with the external views off al least no one will be getting any bomber kills because no one will be flying them.


Especially in "this" setup. Looks like CT staff tends to ignore "vox populi" in last time.

btw, 100 perks for Me262 is bad idea too. Such things makes it available only for "regular members" almost independently of their skill. In the last time i seen that setup (about 1.5 year ago or so) it was much more "open". 10 or 15 with reset perks must be far better imho.
(personally i dont like jets)
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: Jester on May 14, 2004, 04:42:29 AM
Throw in the ME-163 as a "Freeby" just base it on one base near the capital for point defense.

Perk the Tiges about 25 points each as well. Not that many around. Otherwise you are going to see nothing but them.

You can either limit the Tempest to a couple of fields or perk it the same as the Ta-152.

Need to raise fuel burn to about 1.5 also.

!
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: Oldman731 on May 14, 2004, 06:51:24 AM
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Originally posted by storch
how about it's awesome leave it be.

Agreed.  Last time we had this period of the war, there were a lot of Temps and 262s.  I like Fork's current solution.

- oldman
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: Slash27 on May 14, 2004, 10:50:57 AM
Throw in the ME-163 as a "Freeby" just base it on one base near the capital for point defense.

Good idea.
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: Grits on May 14, 2004, 11:00:53 AM
I just noticed, no Osti-spumanti for the Axis?
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: DktrEvil on May 14, 2004, 11:48:33 AM
I like the setup, very refreshing.  I also like the idea of turning off the outside views, leave outside views for the newbies in the main arena.

I have another request, I would like to see the flashing base turned off or at least modified.  If you are closing in on an enemy base "under" radar then the base should not flash.  If you are "above" radar it need not flash since you will appear as a dot on the map.  If it can be made to flash only when vehicles are near then that would be ok.

I found this very nice when I flew the old WWII arena in Warbirds.  It made for very realistic conditions.  If you didn't keep your head on a swivel at all times you might get a tail full of lead.

If you can't do this for this week, it would be something nice for the future.

I am all for more realistic conditions and I ain't talking about historical planesets.  I mean, no outside views, no flashing bases for incoming aircraft, Radar you can fly under if necessary, radar that doesn't extend far beyond realistic boundries, and shorter icon ranges.

All these things make for better teamwork and better piloting habits in order to survive.  

I am sure there will be people that think this could reduce the enjoyment but I don't think so.  It might initially for those used to the present "reduced reality" settings of the Combat Theatre but after a day or two I am sure people would adjust and most would begin to like it.  You definately get a feel for how it was as a real pilot flying over Germany or Britain.

Maybe a separate arena with these settings "Realistic Arena" just for people to try out.  It would be fun one day to try "No Icons" on, I've done that before and you REALLY get a sense of how it was.  Plane identification and a pilots keen vision were key factors in living or dying in real life, there were no icons in WWII.

Anyhow, I finally got this off my chest and hope it stirs up some interest.  

Maybe I am the only one that enjoys a more realistic setup but I don't think so.

Regards
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Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: Bear76 on May 14, 2004, 11:53:00 AM
No more spits!!! Yippie!!!
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: Skyfoxx on May 14, 2004, 01:50:57 PM
Looks good as is. :aok

Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: 327thBS on May 14, 2004, 05:23:37 PM
howa bout u reset that perk cost on that 262..i mean some of us really dont live in the CT, i usually just go there to play and have fair to modest fun fights... we'll any way..it seems like a good setup to evry 1 that put there effort to the setup much thanks for it :aok
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: Dogsta04 on May 14, 2004, 06:28:26 PM
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Originally posted by DktrEvil
I like the setup, very refreshing.  I also like the idea of turning off the outside views, leave outside views for the newbies in the main arena.

I have another request, I would like to see the flashing base turned off or at least modified.  If you are closing in on an enemy base "under" radar then the base should not flash.  If you are "above" radar it need not flash since you will appear as a dot on the map.  If it can be made to flash only when vehicles are near then that would be ok.


I believe that they can set the range on when a base flashes. although I agree that if your under dar you would not be see on Dar, Spotters in and around the field would hear and see enemy ingressing and sound an alarm, or contact local police/miltary/civil defence and they would sound an alarm.
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: Mister Fork on May 14, 2004, 10:38:07 PM
Hmm... Interesting idea Evil.  When you say 'turning off the flashing base'...do you mean for aircraft?  I'll try turning it off for fighter aircraft but not for GV's.  The only concern is guys milk-running the bases for capture.

We have the ability to set the warning/flashing base range for bombers, fighters, ships, and ground vehicles. In this case, I'll set the fighters to 0.

327 - Perk points will actually limit the use of aircraft to historic level - both in gameplay and in the arena. Here's my thought...
75 perks... hmm... I only have 60-ish myself and I've been flying a bunch in the CT.  During WWII, only the most experienced and seasoned veterans flew the 262 - those who have earned their use.  In the CT, who'll fly them? The CT veterans which in a way will limit their use historically again. Same goes for Tigers.   Only the seasoned CT veterans will be allowed to use them.  

BTW- the Allies have a hidden Easter egg....: D
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: B17Skull12 on May 14, 2004, 11:17:53 PM
fork

i can get 75 perks in 2 days like most ct so we shoud all be able to fly 262's but 152's are closer to action so


"during the last days of the war the 152 was my life insurance":D
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: TheBug on May 14, 2004, 11:49:07 PM
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Originally posted by DktrEvil

Maybe I am the only one that enjoys a more realistic setup but I don't think so.

Regards
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I think it is a great idea and would be all for it, if it is something the staffers are able to do within the game constraints.
Title: Setup for May 14: Germany: Battle for the Rhine, February 45
Post by: DktrEvil on May 17, 2004, 11:14:28 AM
Fork,

I want to thank you for trying out the new Radar/View setup. It definately adds new dynamics to the Combat Theatre.

For example:

My squaddie noticed a formation of bombers pounding some of our airfields, he saw them turn around and realized they were rtb. Being the sneaky bastage he is, my squaddie decided to stay under DAR to try and intercept the buffs as they landed.

Sure as shootin, he timed it just right and arrived just in time to see the gear being lowered as the buffs lined up for the runway.  Needless to say 3 buffs died just short of the runway.

Under normal conditions the buffs would have seen the base flashing from miles away and been alerted to possible enemy in the area and would have immediately gone to the external view to spot possible cons.

I am a firm believer in realistic Radar/View settings in the Combat Theatre. It adds so much to the arena which you cannot find anywhere else in Aces High.

For those that like the "normal" settings" the Main Arena is a good option but give the rest of us a choice of more realistic settings somewhere in AH.

If you think about it the only difference between the MA and CT right now is planesets and maps.  No wonder there is so much focus in the CT on which planes should be in each weeks setup.  The focus is not on your skills but your hardware.  

Make the settings more realistic and you will find skills and teamwork become more of a factor.  You will also find there is more opportunity for innovative attack plans.

Thanks again Fork and don't stop here keep pushing the envelope.


Regards
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