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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: popeye on October 05, 2000, 08:14:00 AM
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Reading about Citabria's great streak, reminded me of a question I've wanted to ask:
When counting a kill streak, how do you define the end of the streak? Obviously a death is the end, but is a "bail", "ditch", and/or "capture"?
popeye
ps. I always thought anything other than a safe landing at a friendly field ended my streak, but now I'm thinking that may not be "realistic".
[This message has been edited by popeye (edited 10-05-2000).]
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well the key is that CIT did 86 kills with only rearm re-fuel on hotspots ..
I go BINGO-Nerves at about 5 kills (if i ever get them lately ..) and do a .ef
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Whenever I fly naked.
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Yeah, the re-arm thing makes a streak pretty clear. I was thinking of streaks interrupted by eating and sleeping. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
popeye
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I couldn't fly same plane for 5 hours constantly..
Even while 270 kills in Fw190, I had once in a while fligt in another plane..
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Kill streak is the number of kills awarded without being killed or captured. That simple.
If you ditch.. you survived. That's why no kill is awarded.
If you crash and no kill is awarded.. well you were killed anyway.. streak over.
That is realistic.
Now.. slightly unrealistic is bailing. If you were to bail over friendly territory.. you could fight another day thus the kill streak would survive. Bailing over enemy territory is another matter.
For the sake of the game though.. kill streak ends with a bail too.
BTW.. Cit didn't ditch/bail/crash/disco during this entire streak so its a moot point for him.
AKDejaVu
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My definition of a kill streak is if I actually shoot someone down. A kill streak of one is good enough for me. I have to land successfully, no ditch or bail, for me to consider it a good flight.
Fury
[This message has been edited by Fury (edited 10-05-2000).]
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Any time I see my name spelled out in the radio buffer by the host for three, four, or heck five times in one flight. That is a streak to me.
Landing back at home or bailing in friendly territory have not entered into my equation yet.
-Westy
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I see it as:
Sortie kill streak: this is the obvious one; the number of kills you are awarded in one sortie.
Shot down kill streak: the number of kills you score in succesive sorties, until you are downed. Deaths, bails, ditches captures count as shot down.
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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
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Swager checks his own personal dictionary!
"Hummm,.....!" "Nope! No kill streak defined here!""
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I once got shot down 16 times in a row with out getting a kill!! Ha! There's a kill streak!!
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Kill streak = career of a real pilot. If you die or are captured, the war is over for you.
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I like Funked's.
If you live, and are not captured, the streak lives with you.
Sisu
-Karnak
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I didnt rearm at all
I just tracked my progress during the streak via the fighter k/d ratio.
my actual total including bomber kills was 93 before I got hit by an 88mm shell from a factory and crashed (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I really hope HTC implements the current streak and best streak in which the pilot can track their progress for each virtual life they use.
to me this is exactly how a streak scoring system should operate...
bails or ditches in friendly territory would not end the streak but capture or death would obviously end the kill streak as the virtual pilot is out of the war or KIA.
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Cita, you are going to have to fly with rocks in your pockets and one hand tied behind your back and one eye closed. Hehee, that way AH would be a little challenge for ya (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Nice goin!!! Glad you a Bishop!!!
<S>
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Most agree:
Death = end of streak (duh!)
Capture = end of streak.
Some disagree:
Ditch (no capture) = ?
Bail (no capture) = ?
popeye
[This message has been edited by popeye (edited 10-05-2000).]
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Well, I'll settle for funked's, as I just had to dtich at a7 after running outta fuel killing cons.
That means my 22 kill streak is still on (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
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Kill Streak.... hmmm.
You mean the streak I leave on the ground when I plow into it in a big fireball?
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[This message has been edited by Lephturn (edited 10-05-2000).]
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Popeye:
I think funked has it right. A good way of measuring streaks is to model it on a real pilot's career.
As far as the:
Ditch (no capture) = ?
Bail (no capture) = ?
issues.... Well in the real world that pilot would have been flying again (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
Of course what we are talking about is just DATA. Tracking this stuff is trivial on the computer so iEN could in fact keep track of 4 or 5 different kinds of streaks. Funked's could be called the "historical streak". Another type could be a "RTB streak" which only held as long as you successfully landed each mission. It should be real easy to add this stuff to the scoring pages. There really isn't any reason NOT to track several different type of streaks, or scores (jabo scores for example) so that the player's could switch between trying to maximize k/d one tour, to jabo score next tour, to RTB streak next tour etc....
And shouldn't somebody be out there killing Citabria, so the rest of us don't have to face up to what pathetic losers we really are? :P
Hooligan
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One major flaw in AH is the streak system. If you logout...Ur streak is gone.....Why?
Did Galland get 101 kills in one day? I dont think so.
So why not carry the streaks on until you actually are captured or killed online, whether that be over 1 hour or 1 week?
IMO the score system, or the displayed kill system is porked and not realistic wotsoever.
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9.JG54 Grünherz
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[This message has been edited by VoX (edited 10-06-2000).]
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Hi
Yes thats a great idea, kill streaks should be kept mission after mission even if you dont rearm/refuel on the pad. HTC can this be implemented?
thanks GRUNHERZ