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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SwampRat on December 31, 2000, 04:44:00 PM
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Something needs to be done about the Bish/Nits consistently taking the Rooks CV's. I signed on to AH pretty much because of CV ops, yet for the last couple of days the Rooks have been steadfastly denied the use of carriers. Constantly fighting a losing battle is one thing, I love being on the side with fewest numbers, but never getting to use carriers absolutely blows and definately is not worth the pricetag of this game. Right now there are 45Bish, 64Nit, and 29Rook, and yet again the Rook have nary a CV and still being attacked hard on both fronts. The current numbers ought to be a clear signal to what can happen to the game when a VERY big part of this game is denied one side (or the other for that matter). This is not a question of fair play, this is not a war, and were supposed to be having fun yes? Just my two cents for what it's worth.
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I somewhat agree...however, something needs to be done about the Bishops/Rooks consistently taking the Knight's CV's.
Just a view from the other side of the fence.
Regards,
Ozark
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Sorry, let me clarify. I'm not trying to make it a "side" issue. The problem is clearly this...AH in the last couple of days has become "Whichever country has the fewest numbers gets no CV". That in itself leads me to believe that there are a LOT of players interested only in the easy fight. No offense to anyone but you know who you are. All I'm trying to say is, perhaps at least one cv should be available per country all the time. Hey, I like flyin off carriers...and I don't think it very courageous to jump to another country just to do so.
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Its an issue with sportsmanship, as I mentioned in a post sometime last week. Seems the teams of larger numbers never lay off the team with the least. Seldom do you see folks offering to change sides to balance things out.
I feel your pain.
Paul
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Well said LePaul, no sportsmanship whatsoever, and hardly any teamwork, least for the Rooks. I flew Nits at first and did see a little more teamwork there, but they also often had superiour numbers. I agree with you but IMO I'd rather not see folks jumping country all the time. Yes, very sportmanlike but detracts severely from the ..err..community. What were seeing is exactly the same thing that happens all the time in Air Warrior and WarBirds...I'd hoped things would be better here.
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You ain't a kiddin man. I think if you take all the CV's from one country then RESET! should occur, they are bases after all are they not? I've been practicing with the big guns offline and wanted to try my newly honed skills online. Yeah right. All I see are would-be sim pilots paddin their scores by setting up vulch farms at a base where their CV can support them real nice. I pay for this? I don't think so. Its ok by me to be the underdog, benn doing it for a while now. BUT, I still want to enjoy the game and ALL it has to offer. Which means...GIVE US BACK OUR ******* CV's ya stinkin nits. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Seriously though, this is an issue which HTC may or may not have forseen. Well, we all see it now so FIX IT SOON.
Having said that...I still say we need to consider 2 maps,one for PAC and one EURO, and have 3 war eras,early,middle,late. Only the planes of that era and theatre will be availiable.Would this not cure some of the problems I hear about concerning one plane outmatching the rest? We do have the F6F now so the N1K has met its match. If we just had a D9 in a Euro theatre we'd be set. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) I know I know, I'll just have to wait, and I will to. I may squeak but I'm not going anywhere, too many good things about this sim and it is the best out there today. What do you think HTC folks? Can you help out us customers and fix the CV problem??? I know you can. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Razer/Skidog out
PS: I sure would like to have my old ID back...will that happen before or after we get the D9?
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Well it sure is funny how Dec 30th was the first time the knights had the numbers since 1.05 came out, and all of a sudden the Rooks are crying how we are gangbanging them. it was only two days ago when the knights had lost both there fleets, but I will have to look for the post that has them crying fowl. It sure is funny how nobody remembers the Bishops with 70 to 80 pilots on line, the Rooks with 40 to 50 pilots online, and the Knights with 40 to 50 pilots on line, and the Knights fighting the Rooks and the Bishops at the same time and having no fleets to sail around in. Well you will excuse me if I dont feel bad for you.
I know that when the Knights are getting gangbanged we all hear from the Rooks and the Bishops that it happens to all three teams and it is just our turn. well, maybe you should remember that when you are the ones getting trashed.
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Wolf..you'll notice I was attempting NOT to make this a "side" issue. Not suprised to see a vengful minded post, and nobody is asking for your sympathy, but while your at it, notice the way your blatently cutting off your nose to spite your face. This problem "fix" would benefit all and do away with the need for attitudes such as your own.
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Ok...My point is, every country will have the odds against them at one time or another. That's just the ebb and flow of the game...err...sim. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Just wait a few (minutes...hours...days). The one thing that has amazed me from the first day of Beta is that every country has their days (good or bad). No country has been stomped to the point of no return....the darn Rooks or the darn Bishops always rise again to kick butt. <S>
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wolf, mate, you've been flying off peak hours again haven't ya. since the release of 1.05 the rooks have been in the barrel, and prime time is the absolute worst. Deffinately NOT worth the price of admission. We've had a few scattered opportunities and break outs, but as soon as prime time starts getting close the bish and nits get all the numbers and it becomes 150 vulching on 50. As I'm writing this the rooks have been held to the same 3-4 fields for over 24hrs now, with the exception of an almost break out made earlier against the bishops. NO attempts at a reset have been made by the bish or the nits, and with the efficiency the nits showed last night it should've been NO problem at all for them to reset the arena. Guess ya'll lost all honor eh mate?
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I agree totally with Cave!! I logged off last night...err..this morning thinking there would have been a reset. Back on today around 4pm, Rooks have 1 cv and a couple of bases more than when I left. Then I see the Bish/Nits both move off the Rook mainland in order only to keep the Rooks down. This was confirmed as agreed on by the Nits/Bish on many occasions over the open channel. This is chickentoejam at it's best. I wouldn't dream of goin Bish or Nit now if my life depended on it, it would be to embarrasing. If the dipweeds responsible for this scenario had any sense of honor or dignity they would finish the job and let the fight start again. Obviously they do not.
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I agree...
I really would like to see a port next to HQ too, That way if some country is "gangbanged" it still have CV in use (usually). Also ports could have even tougher AA-artillery than now, something like those in CVs.
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Cave please stop. Heres couple screenshots for you...
Heres (http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/gb.gif) first one and this (http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/gb2.gif) one is taken couple hours later. As you can see only Bishes and Rooks really didnt take each others fields, just bases owned by Knights.
Oh and look all those huge sectorbars in Bish/Rook Front. Sorry theres none.
So Cave, What was your comment again?
[This message has been edited by Staga (edited 12-31-2000).]
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Swamprat:
HT reset the arena for you guys tonight. You have your carriers back.
Que
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since the release of 1.05 the rooks have been in the barrel, and prime time is the absolute worst.
LOL!-what a crock of crap-yesterday the bishops were down to 3 fields and getting hit by knights and rooks,we had no CVs,no radar but we kicked your butts anyway!
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Seems like if the ports for the left and right sides were on the HQ island like they are for the northern team, CVs wouldn't start out on the ropes like they do down south.
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CavemanJ:
no I have not been flying off hours.
and swamprat.....bite me.
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wolf37
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LOL WOLF!!!....very origional and well thought out reply. Fits well with you and yours hehehe. <S>
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Every country gets gangbanged at some time of the day. If you fly in the late night/early morning, it's usually the knights. Everybody gets their turn.
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Ripsnort summarized it well: "Every gets a night in the bucket"
Look, it happens to all the sides. Its no secret, I bounce around from side to side. While I tend to hang out as a Knight, sometimes I opt to play Rook or Bish since many of you are on those teams and I like flying with ya!
The one solution is if the server assigned you to a team as you logged in, in an effort to balance the sides out. But, I see more problems than gains doing that (Squads being broken up into different teams when they wanted to fly together, etc etc)
Have fun guys, and if you see my Lancaster up there, beep, don't shoot (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Paul
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Ok lets try and get back on subject. The idea here, is to try and make it possible for all sides have at least one cv per at all times. CV's being part of the game should NOT be allowed to be denied for the lenght of time it happened recently to Rooks..OR KNIGHTS OR BISHOPS FOR THAT MATTER. Flame away if your po'd about having been outnumbered or gangbanged or whatever, but please choose to do so knowing I don't give a crap about your petty personal gripe with one side or the other. ALL SIDES GET BANGED FROM TIME TO TIME ..OK??? sheesh.
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switch sides if carrier ops is ur bag and rooks aint got one. Dont expect people to change or the game to change just to suit ur desire to be rook and fly off carriers.
CRASH
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Gawd Crash...read above will ya? Like I said...it's not a freekin side issue.
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Dont expect people to change
??? Crash what point exactly are you trying to make?
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Let's see...when the Japanese lost most of their CV's in Midway, did they whine to the US that it wasn't fair to not have carriers, that they should always have one? Get over it...you won't have CV's all the time.
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Is this subject just too far over the heads of your average AH participant or what? Yet again...See above before you make some eloquent decry of intelligence. Did I not state that this was a game..to have fun..OF WHICH CV OPS IS A PART OF? My dear Texace..this is not WWII, or WWIII, or the friggin battle at bunker hill even. It is a game. Would someone please bother to reply to the point of my origional and following posts?
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Originally posted by CavemanJ:
SNIP: ..it should've been NO problem at all for them to reset the arena. Guess ya'll lost all honor eh mate?
Well, Cave, I know you're very willing to roll over like a dog and show passive in order to get a reset(Something you tried to get Knights to do in the past when you were knight), but ya got to tell that to the other Rooks that are fighting like a cornered rat, then we can reset...you see, when you get a country down to 2-3 fields, it gets alittle tougher to close bases. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Cave, I've yet to have more than 15 in any one of my Jabo sorties since the JG2 days...
BTW, I agree with the top post,however, add another CV task force,then,the most one country can lose is 2 CV's..
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One thing I have not heard mentioned yet...
One of the big reasons that HTC has put the perk points system in place is so they can use it as a tool to try and balance the arena a bit. Lets watch and see what HTC does, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that they'll use the perk system to help out. In that case it could be that you can beat one country down to 3 bases and no CV's, but then you would have to contend with a bunch of guys in P51 H's and P47M's. As a side benefit, some would switch sides to the outnumbered one just to get a chance to fly some perk planes or get more perk points.
Give it a chance folks.
In the mean time, let me point out that this is no different from normal. This is only an issue because the CV's are new and everybody wants to play with them. Things will even out and calm down a bit. If you log on and have no CV's, put a strike force together and go get one!
<S> to CavemanJ for helping us organize to do just that when I logged on yesterday. It was fun too. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I agree with Lephturn. HTC are very into their game, and will come up with a balancing measure before too long.
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Well we have gotten off the topic haven't we? Why in the world should I have to 'switch-sides' to enjoy any one aspect of this amazing sim??? Some bases are denied us for a set time once they are destroyed but regenerate eventually. Why can't the CV's be this way as well? I am not asking to be given the advantage, just the opportunity to enjoy flying,driving or gunning anything I want while logged on. Maybe the answer lies in toughening up the defenders when the numbers are against them. IE..as the number of bases for any given side dwindle slowly towards 0 the ack could become more accurate and the hangers tougher etc. I'm not whining, nor am I trying turn this into a flame war,this was a great post on a topic which needs to be discussed. I flew in B-land AW3 so I'm used to being outnumbered. BUT...we should still have the opportunity to choose what we fly/drive/gun regardless of the numbers. So what if we lose the ship every 15 minutes for 30 minutes at a time. If we can't defend it any better then so be it. The fact of the matter is this, no one country simply based on numbers alone should be able to deny another player the ability to try out any aspect of this game. It happens to every country sooner or later does it not? There were bases in AW3 which could be destroyed but not captured. Would this work in here? C'mon folks...we need suggestions not insults,this is our sim and in the end we decide in one way or another how things will be managed. Keep this in mind while your flying, and if you see something that needs to be corrected or have an idea to improve something, please share. Just remember this, as one of my fellow countrymen said the other night, some days your the windshield and some days your the bug. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Skidog
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I hate being outnumbered. TOday, 65 knits attacking 30 of us bish. It's real lame.
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I am sorry if I cant sympathize.
Couple nights ago, we were flying Rook and the rooks controlled 4 cv groups.
Yesterday, with almost 50 rooks on, we were getting killed, down to a few fields. I repeatadly tried to get rooks to do something, work together, and no luck. Hell, I couldnt even get a single rook to answer me when I asked if we were attacking anything. Repeated calls to rooks, not one answer.
So, our squad, (MOL) moved to knight. Enough of this nonsense, I hope and expect to get better teamwork with the knights.
Dago
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Swamprat change teams, get over it, or quit.
In a main arena you get what you get if you want to play on boats then change to a team that has boats. I friggin hate the aspect of "corsairs high" and constantly battling allied planes mainly chog no talent flying cannon dweebs. But it is what it is for those who pay if you dont like like then leave and dont pay...
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Originally posted by Pollock:
Swamprat change teams, get over it, or quit.
In a main arena you get what you get if you want to play on boats then change to a team that has boats.
ZOOM...right over another one's head.
Fergetit, obviously way to complicated an issue
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One of the big reasons that HTC has put the perk points system in place is so they can use it as a tool to try and balance the arena a bit. Lets watch and see what HTC does, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that they'll use the perk system to help out. In that case it could be that you can beat one country down to 3 bases and no CV's, but then you would have to contend with a bunch of guys in P51 H's and P47M's. As a side benefit, some would switch sides to the outnumbered one just to get a chance to fly some perk planes or get more perk points.
Exceedingly great idea! It is true that if you are under attack by greater force you tend to have less chances of success so if you succeed you should gaing more perk points for doing that! That is practical and useful reward for being in tight spot and surviving.
This would also automatically balance the arena a bit, underdogs get better planes (perks) more easily and this helps them to redress the balance.
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I'm not as worried about the CV's as some but I can see how one more CV with a port at HQ might help. The time zones seem to play a large part in the numbers game on AH. The largest differences in numbers I've seen on here are generally in non USA peek hours. That plays a major role in what you come back to the next day. As I said in another posting I've been playing this game way to much the last few weeks. I've observed the time zone peeks and valleys. If a CV group was tied to the HQ the other time zones could lose everything and you would still have a CV group.
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Originally posted by SwampRat:
"Whichever country has the fewest numbers gets no CV". That in itself leads me to believe that there are a LOT of players interested only in the easy fight. No offense to anyone but you know who you are. All I'm trying to say is, perhaps at least one cv should be available per country all the time. .
Hmmm ez fight and you know who you are? Sounds like that is what you want with a perpetual CV.
No reason to defend something you can never lose.
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Originally posted by Torque:
Hmmm ez fight and you know who you are? Sounds like that is what you want with a perpetual CV.
No reason to defend something you can never lose.
Good god. Go to origional post. For that matter, go read the "other" CV denial thread. Let me make it a bit clearer for ya'll who are so quick to jump in decide this is about gangbanging and whineing or self-pity. The point is, the G A M E offer's and advertises the use of Carriers. No Carriers means a large portion of the game is TAKEN FROM WOEVER DOES NOT HAVE ANY. THIS IS OK. Sink'em and send them back to port. What is NOT ok is having those carriers removed for EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME. Think of those folks who 1) Have squads and loyalty to a country. 2) Are limited in time to actually participate in the game. 3) Are paying (perhaps) to participate in AH because it's the best sim around. 4) Really really enjoy carrier ops 5) Are denied the use of CV's because of one reason or another. Now your talking about taking a huge part of the game away. I'm still payin the same price right?
Further, there are MORE than one CV per country now..right? There have been suggestions of 1 being uncapturable. Suggestions of adding one near a Port for more durability...whatever.
I would have said the heck with it all, but after I witnessed 2 "sides" confirm..via open channel that thier INTENTION was to keep the other side down and without CV's for as long as possible and not go for the reset then..THATS when it became much more an issue of "bucks worth" and therefore WORTH the time to discuss further.
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OK SwampRat, lessee if I can somehow, after several failed attempts, figure out what your point is.
I will base my struggle for understanding on your most recent effort to enlighten the masses, ie: your most recent post above.
{Ain't the holiday period great? It frees up so much time for mental self improvement.)
You said:
"The point is, the GAME offers and advertises the use of carriers."
I will concede that point but could you please refer me to the part where HTC offers and advertizes that all countries are guaranteed carrier options 24/7?
I cannot find that part and if it does indeed exist I guess you are not just whining about having to choose country loyalty over the ability to drive or fly from CVs and concede your superior reasoning abilities.
OK, if we concede that you are right I request that HTC make 1 Bomber base indestructable and that any bomber taking off from it be invulnerable to attack until it reaches 15,000 feet.
I make this request based on the premise that HTC offers and advertizes the use of bombers and when my country has 2 fields left and some inconsiderate SOB {not you SOB from FDB.) bombs the bomber hanger on them I am denied my right to maintain country loyalty AND fly bombers.
This places much strain on my psyche and if a remedy is not forthcoming from HTC, I may have to refer the whole matter to my attorney.
If I have to refer the whole matter to my attorney my psyche will be further strained and indeed quite possibly permanently damaged due to my aversion to dealing with attorneys.
HTC, is there a disclaimer somewhere concerning psyche strain or damage?
If not you may be hearing from my attorney.
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When did they put this thing in here and WTF is it for?
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Brilliant reply Sunchaser, my letter writing stinks but I think we got our point across.
swamprat obviously was one of the disenfranchised ones who was prevented by stormtroopers and rabid dogs to get to his CV. And it depends on what mean by 'is' is for carriers can be or shall be available to all. Swamp rat dop you live in Palm Beach county per chance?
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Ok Sunchaser
So what your saying is, it's grand to be able to concentrate on takeing all of one sides carriers, beat them back to a couple of bases then agree with the "other" side not to go ahead and finish the job and keep it that way for as long as humanly possible, lets say 2 days..or a week. In that..everyone on he side "in-the-bucket" is told by the "domination" types like yourselves and the "drivel prone" such as pollock to suck it up and live with it, or leave the game if they don't like it?
Ok thats fine by me, your point is made. I suggest you refer it to your lawyer based on your own self-evaluation. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Now lets see if anyone would like to add some reasoning pro or con to this issue rather than gratify themselves stirring up a flame war within the thread.
Good day
Swamp
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Originally posted by SwampRat:
Ok Sunchaser
So what your saying is, it's grand to be able to concentrate on takeing all of one sides carriers, beat them back to a couple of bases then agree with the "other" side not to go ahead and finish the job and keep it that way for as long as humanly possible, lets say 2 days..or a week. Swamp
Not once seen this "agree with the other side" thing in AH. Seen it attempted in AW3, but alas it never works (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Come on Swamp you reside in the same arena as we do, you know that teams do not form truces, sometimes when u are down it may seem like it.
The mob takes the path of least resistance, sad but true.
deal with it
AKskurj
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to start with swamprat, the Knights and the Bishops did not agree to keep the rooks down to three fields.
as for always having one cv no matter what has happened to your team, how many fields your team has lost, how many pilots your team has on at the time, is just stupid.
gee, maybe when one team bombs and flatterns my teams city and HQ, well my team should have radar all the time no matter what. NOT
the idea here is to proteck your fields, and even if your team is getting gangbanged, you should still be able to put up some kind of a fight, I know the team I fly for can put up a fight, and I know the team I fly for does put up a fight. with or with out fleets.
Now I geuss it does not really matter what I say or what anybody else say's here, you are the only one that is right and understands what it is you are whinning about, and everybody else is just to stupid to know what you are trying to say.
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wolf37
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I Beg to differ guyz. I saw at least 3 confirmed responses to Cave's questions over open channel at the time I'm refering to, can't remember all but 1 was Rhino. Not saying this happens all the time, but it did happen and it lasted long enough to make an issue of it.
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Originally posted by wolf37:
the idea here is to proteck your fields, and even if your team is getting gangbanged
Actually the idea here is to prevent 30-40+ hours of part of the game missing.
And of course I'm always right..where you been? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by SKurj:
Come on Swamp you reside in the same arena as we do, you know that teams do not form truces, sometimes when u are down it may seem like it.
When flyin Nit I saw MANY attempts by Knits/Rooks to get truces going and yes, didn't last long but it happened
The mob takes the path of least resistance, sad but true.
Yes very sad but very true.
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swamprat, I have flown Knights since beta one, and I have never seen the knights try to allie themselfs with either the Rooks or the Bishops.
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wolf37
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THUNDER BIRDS
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Swamprat
I know I have said come on rooks lets get bish or whatever, but NOONE takes this seriously, whenever i have made a statement like that (and most others as well) it has been basically a taunt.
WAKE UP!! u know how hard it is to coordinate with 1/2 a dozen teammates let alone a whole team. surely you're not this naive.
AKskurj
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Originally posted by SKurj:
Swamprat surely you're not this naive.
Wouldn't want to think so, just call'em as I see'em. What happened happened dude...try and make a liar outta me all you want, doesn't change a thing.
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Hey SwampRat, I need a favor.
I have read and reread my replies and cannot find exactly where I said what you said I said in your 4:56PM 1/2/01 reply to me.
I figured since you are adept at enclosing quotes in your replies, in fact more adept at that than you are at hangin' on to yer CVs, you could point me to the aforementioned statement.
Thanks.
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When did they put this thing in here and WTF is it for?
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Even if two sides did organize to route one country, it would be difficult at best since icons are all the same color, red. You wouldn't be able to discern who is who fast enough (yes, they have the little country outlines on icon, but all I see is RED!)
BTW, I have a screen shot 24 hours after your original post showing Rooks having the most fields, Bish down to 2 fields, and Knights with about 10 fields, would you like me to post that? Just goes to show you, it was your turn in the bucket.
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learn to enjoy doing it poorly!
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If your country doesn't have any CV's, there's a very, very simple remedy: go get some. Look at CV's as being a priviledge, just like radar - if you don't protect them, if you sail them right down the middle of the enemy front and they get "gangbanged" and sunk, then you don't deserve the priviledge of using them. And, as for the numbers issue... It's alot easier to defend a CV than to sink one. Even better, if anyone bothers to take command of it, you can have the fleet perform some nice evasive manuvers. The other day there was a lanc bombing a knight CV group, and nobody at all was defending the CV, so I just took command and put the fleet into some radical turns by changing the waypoints alot. The lanc gave up and flew off without scoring a hit. This is one of the beautys of player controlled CV's - a defense force of 4 people can stop almost any attack, and a tiny bit of thinking will ensure that you don't put the CV into a position where it will die.
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<S> G'day all.
First off I'd like to state that I and the rest of my squad are rook to the core.
Secondly....if you want the CV back, go capture any enemy held airfields in rookland near our port, then capture the port, then sink the CV...hey presto! you have a fleet back. Takes a bit of co-operation and forethought, but it is definately within the realms of possability.
BTW, I have seen a few differant occasions this week where rooks owned three or more CVs at once, the ebb and flow of battle will mean that ALL sides experience denial of some part of the game......nobody seems to mind when the radar goes down, everybody just accepts that if they had of defended their homeland better, they would be able to enjoy 'all' the features of this sim, why should the fleets be any differant?
And resetting as soon as any country has no CVs? why? They arent THAT big a part of the game, AH worked just fine before we had CV's, why should they now be the deciding factor in who wins the war?
Dont get me wrong, I love flying from a CV too, and think that the addition of a Navy side of things is a big improvement to the game, I just dont agree that every country should NEVER be without one, and dont agree with squeaking just becuase your country is getting its arse kicked....if it really means that much to you, why waste time here? why not go take the damn thing back?
And if you find that being denied a CV is a REALLY big hassle, try taking not only ours back, but grab theirs while you're at it.
War is hell aint it? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
<S> Blue