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Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Swager on May 17, 2004, 07:13:20 PM
$3.40 a gallon.

Whoops!  IMHO it depends on who gets elected.

Bush elected:  $3.40 a gallon

Democrat elected:  $1.69 a galllon.
Title: Re: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Ripsnort on May 17, 2004, 07:16:39 PM
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Originally posted by Swager
Whoops!  IMHO it depends on who gets elected.

Bush elected:  $3.40 a gallon

Democrat elected:  $1.69 a galllon.


LOL, okay, now you have me biting...explain why.
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: txmx on May 17, 2004, 07:17:01 PM
LOL
Go back to the crayons and big cheif note pad and leave the thinking to the grown ups :D
Title: Re: Re: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: NUKE on May 17, 2004, 07:19:34 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
LOL, okay, now you have me biting...explain why.


I'll explain Rip: Bush tells Haliburton to raise gas prices so Bush can get rich. Bush controls gas prices...didn't you know that?

Some people can be so ignorant. :cool:
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on May 17, 2004, 07:19:57 PM
Grown ups with six or seven different personalities?

I win.
-SW
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: txmx on May 17, 2004, 07:21:08 PM
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Grown ups with six or seven different personalities?

I win.
-SW


LOL alone in a crowd of one again fool?
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on May 17, 2004, 07:23:11 PM
That was simply the most amazing anything I've ever witnessed. I must now go cry, and mourn over my lady getting dick from a lunatic.
-SW
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: txmx on May 17, 2004, 07:24:44 PM
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
That was simply the most amazing anything I've ever witnessed. I must now go cry, and mourn over my lady getting dick from a lunatic.
-SW


LOL atleast she finaly got some:aok
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on May 17, 2004, 07:26:18 PM
I see you edited your last post, which personality took over and decided your last one was subpar? I'm guessing it was MrBlack, he's due for a comeback.
-SW
Title: Re: Re: Re: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Ripsnort on May 17, 2004, 07:38:31 PM
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Originally posted by NUKE
I'll explain Rip: Bush tells Haliburton to raise gas prices so Bush can get rich. Bush controls gas prices...didn't you know that?

Some people can be so ignorant. :cool:

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Saurdaukar on May 17, 2004, 08:06:20 PM
"If Im elected President, I will make peace in the Middle East, balance the budget, and gas will be free.  Im John Kerry, and I've approved this message."

"Paid for by the Friends of Kerry, North Korea Chapter."
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Lizking on May 17, 2004, 08:49:30 PM
A Chicken in Every Pot!
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Saurdaukar on May 17, 2004, 09:08:24 PM
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Originally posted by Lizking
A Chicken in Every Pot!


(http://www.kettle.com/images/potpie.jpg)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Swager on August 19, 2005, 01:41:28 PM
OK, I was wrong.

Not quite 2 years!
Title: Re: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Clifra Jones on August 19, 2005, 01:45:16 PM
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Originally posted by Swager
$3.40 a gallon.

Whoops!  IMHO it depends on who gets elected.

Bush elected:  $3.40 a gallon

Democrat elected:  $1.69 a galllon.


Stop drinking the coolaid!
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Ripsnort on August 19, 2005, 01:47:43 PM
One would think a Navy trained Sonar man would be able to do simple mathematics. Average price in the U.S. is $2.55 cents as of August 15th, 2005.

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Mickey1992 on August 19, 2005, 02:07:39 PM
In :aok
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Eagler on August 19, 2005, 02:07:58 PM
I think I pay more for everything now than I did more than a year ago - from groceries to water to electricity

why would I not pay more for gasoline?
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: indy007 on August 19, 2005, 02:23:53 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
I think I pay more for everything now than I did more than a year ago - from groceries to water to electricity

why would I not pay more for gasoline?


Because inflation doesn't really exist. It's EEEEEVIL BOOOOSH! Lining the pockets of his cronies!
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Gunslinger on August 19, 2005, 03:35:40 PM
not to "back seat Moderate" or anything but some of you really need to chill out.  Quit feeding the troll/quite trolling.
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Seagoon on August 19, 2005, 04:13:07 PM
Can we all step back for a moment and let Swager answer Ripsnort's valid question?

I'm sincerely interested to hear why and how the next Republican president would generate higher gas prices and the next Democrat president would be able to cause gas prices to dip sharply lower.

Swager, please do enlighten us.

- SEAGOON
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Swager on September 01, 2005, 11:23:02 AM
Hmmmmmmmm...

We need an update.   Rip, will you do the honors since you seem to be so good at numbers.

Give us the average price of gas, since the $3.40 barrier has already been surpassed in many areas.
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on September 01, 2005, 11:31:25 AM
Inflation won't cause gas to just about triple in about 7 years.

It's something else, like getting the old screw job from OPEC. Bush it's not.
-SW
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Meatwad on September 01, 2005, 11:37:36 AM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
(http://www.kettle.com/images/potpie.jpg)




MMMMM  Chicken pot pie    *droooooooooool*
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Ripsnort on September 01, 2005, 11:39:40 AM
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Originally posted by Swager
Hmmmmmmmm...

We need an update.   Rip, will you do the honors since you seem to be so good at numbers.

Give us the average price of gas, since the $3.40 barrier has already been surpassed in many areas.

Yes, we know, the oil companies created the hurricane so that they could line Bush's pockets.. yep yep yep, I'm a Navy sonar man, and I is brilient!.
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: JimBear on September 01, 2005, 12:43:39 PM
but by the same token Rip, "I am here from the Oil Industry and I'm here to help you"

There is a line that is being walked and in some cases its damn fine between what is free market driven and what is profiteering.
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: sling322 on September 01, 2005, 12:46:55 PM
Seagoon....dont mind Swager.  He is just bumping up an old stupid topic he started over a year ago.  Its not like he has any psychic abilities or anything.  Any mindless liberal could have predicted gas prices would go up....especially in the aftermath of a hurricane.  Especially a hurricane that was caused by Bush and his cronies by not signing the Kyoto agreement or whatever its called.  :rolleyes:
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Swager on September 04, 2005, 11:13:07 PM
Wow Rip, great reply.  I honestly expected some logical answer filled with statistical data proving my perdiction misleading.

Instead I get an lame insult based on the fact I served in the military.  That is actually a response I would expect from a 12 year old or some other reigning member of this community, but not from one such as you.

I know your next comment would probably be based on the fact your initial reply is an attempt to focus on your target audience. Indicating that my intelligence is that of a 12 year old and this would free you of, in the eyes of your AH peers, a righteous answer.

So please do bless us with a more analytical answer for if I was able to perdict a devistating hurricane when I first posted this thread with my psychic abilities, I would be a rich man.

Sling, you're right. I first posted this over a year ago.  So how would I know about an increase of gas prices brought on by  a hurri.........Oh forget it, you're not worth the effort.
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Hangtime on September 05, 2005, 12:01:20 AM


Henh. Rip's carcass, skinned, twists in the wind hanging from the Hurricane Tree.

'Who dat?'

'oh, him... whelp, he pissed off swager a year ago over gas prices. i suppose he deserved it. damn crime tho..."

'How dat?'

'suckers still gonna be up here, next year. sucha rotten SOB, the crows won't even eat him'.

'True dat!'
Title: Re: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Lazerus on September 05, 2005, 12:08:34 AM
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Originally posted by Swager
$3.40 a gallon.

Whoops!  IMHO it depends on who gets elected.

Bush elected:  $3.40 a gallon

Democrat elected:  $1.69 a galllon.


So you blame the price of gas in the US on a Republican president?

I blame the price of gas on left leaning politicians that have nuetered the American oil industry to the point that we cannot supplement lost gasoline production.

How do you feel about that. I'd love to hear/read your solution.
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Hangtime on September 05, 2005, 12:22:04 AM
Explain to me why the republican cronies have rubber stamped gas price gouging just done by their constituent oil companies by not even raising a peep over a nearly buck per gallon gas price increase virtually overnight after the storm.

The gas I paid 3.40 a gallon for went into the ground at that station 2 days before the storm.

Screw you, miserable republicrat partisan pinheads... Allaya. Both sides of the isle. You don't even know when you've been screwed.. and even hop on the bandwagon sellin the vasiline to make it easy for 'em to really ram it in there.
'
blind babbling bastards.
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Vulcan on September 05, 2005, 12:25:42 AM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
"If Im elected President, I will make peace in the Middle East, balance the budget, and gas will be free.  Im John Kerry, and I've approved this message."

"Paid for by the Friends of Kerry, North Korea Chapter."


If I'm elected president I promise to nuke the middle east and declare it to be a state called Glassas, annex Canada, declare Australia the West Island of New Zealand, and send all the stray cats and dogs to North Korea in a generous humanitarian gesture (and disband this SPCA).
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Lazerus on September 05, 2005, 12:36:36 AM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Explain to me why the republican cronies have rubber stamped gas price gouging just done by their constituent oil companies by not even raising a peep over a nearly buck per gallon gas price increase virtually overnight after the storm.

The gas I paid 3.40 a gallon for went into the ground at that station 2 days before the storm.

 


The gas that is dropped into their tanks at the current price will be sold at a lower price later. It is a give and take scenario based on crude oil future markets. They don't sell their tanks dry, it's a continuing market.

I know what you are saying and agreed with you up until recently.
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Lazerus on September 05, 2005, 12:37:44 AM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
by not even raising a peep over a nearly buck per gallon gas price increase virtually overnight after the storm.


This is not true.
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Hangtime on September 05, 2005, 12:44:31 AM
oh horsecrap. You can pay accounting games, or you can play apologist cheerleader for a corrupt politcal lobby.. either way, you got screwed, I got screwed, we all got screwed.

Take yer sharp pencil and do something productive with it.

Tell me the number of gas stations in the US.

Tell me the amount of fuel, on average is in the tanks of those stations on any given day.

Tell me how much they paid for it on Sunday, and how much we paid for it on Tuesday.

Now tell me who's got all that freakin money.

.
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: DieAz on September 05, 2005, 12:50:55 AM
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Originally posted by Seagoon
Can we all step back for a moment and let Swager answer Ripsnort's valid question?

I'm sincerely interested to hear why and how the next Republican president would generate higher gas prices and the next Democrat president would be able to cause gas prices to dip sharply lower.

Swager, please do enlighten us.

- SEAGOON



check out the date of the original post.
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Lazerus on September 05, 2005, 12:57:50 AM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Explain to me why.......a nearly buck per gallon gas price increase virtually overnight after the storm.



There was a law passed that made refinery construction or rebuilding cost prohibitive. America lost over half of its oil refining capacity over twenty years or so. The refineries that were left work at 100% or more on a daily basis to supply America with the many types of mixtures of gasoline required in all the states. They cannot support the demand and the cost of production goes higher and higher. Suddenly about 17% of the refinery production, some say about 50%, is taken off the market. The result is what you see. The blame is on the laws that restrict rebuilding and constructing of new refineries in such a way that they are not profitable at current fuel prices.

The environmental wackos that don't see the forest for the trees they are hugging are the ones to blame.



Kyoto Treaty?


Our air is cleaner than it was 15, 20, 30 years ago. We have stringent emission laws in this country. There are even reports that the lack of pollution is causing global warming. Of course I feel the same about them as I do about the ones that say we are cooking our planet. We do just fine policing ourselves in regard to atmospheric pollution. The regulations in place controlling refinery construction, ANWAR drilling, and a few other areas have swung the pendulum to far in the other direction. It's time to pass regulations based on real science, not bipartisan theory designed to garner votes.

BTW, I hold no stock in any oil company or oil refinery. My wife and I drive a total of 26 miles to work each day and we own two cars (not the evil American SUV's)
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: ghi on September 05, 2005, 01:01:08 AM
Your goverment surcharge 5 cents/galon for  Irakian peoples, money out from your pokets, but doesn't give you a  temporary tax break on fuel in this situation.
 Time to wake up guys!
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Lazerus on September 05, 2005, 01:17:56 AM
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Originally posted by ghi
Your goverment surcharge 5 cents/galon for  Irakian peoples, money out from your pokets, but doesn't give you a  temporary tax break on fuel in this situation.
 Time to wake up guys!


Yup, that's the problem.
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Nashwan on September 05, 2005, 05:38:12 AM
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There was a law passed that made refinery construction or rebuilding cost prohibitive. America lost over half of its oil refining capacity over twenty years or so.


It simply isn't true.

US refinery capacity was at 18.6 million barrels a day in 1981, it's was at 17 million barrels in 2004.

The number of refineries has dropped sharply, with small ones being closed, but capacity hasn't declined much, as the larger ones have been expanded.

And that comes at a time when oil production in the US has declined very sharply. In 1994, the US was capable of refining 1.83 times it's own oil production. In 2004, the US could refine 2.35 times it's own production.

Refinery capacity isn't the problem. The problem is a large rise in demand, and production has taken some time to catch up. On top of that, uncertainty is driving prices higher, as there is no spare production capacity, and any disruption in supply (eg Iraq, Iran) will lead to much higher prices.
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: moose on September 05, 2005, 07:28:25 AM
some points
1. Gas is twice as high as it was last year. Do I make twice as much to cover the cost? No. Inflation is outpacing income because its jacking the price of everything up since the transportation companies aren't gonna eat the added cost, they're gonna pass it on to the consumer..

2. The price of gas went from 2.49 to 4.00 overnight here on Cape Cod because one Johnny Iraqi (yes, he's an iraqi and his stores are all called 'johnnys') owns almost every gas station in this section of the Cape. Was it the same gas as the day before? Yes. He used a natual disaster to make a killing and I'm sure a lot of others did the same.

I'm still unsure why we're in Iraq because we're not even benefitting from the oil there. What happened to the perks of invading a defenseless country? :rolleyes:

I guess the good news is that we're doing such a bangup job that I dont think people will wanna immigrate here in a few years. Maybe Mexico will start using militia to keep US refugees from crossing their borders.
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Mukiwa on September 05, 2005, 07:44:04 AM
See Rule #5
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Swager on September 05, 2005, 09:27:07 AM
I dont care who you are or what you believe, this is funny!  :)

http://toccionline.kizash.com/films/1001/178/index.php


If it has been posted before, I apologize.
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: ASTAC on September 05, 2005, 10:31:55 AM
That was funny..soon I will be AWOL because I won't be able to  afford to drive to the base
Title: Gas prices, 2 years in the future!
Post by: Ripsnort on September 05, 2005, 10:37:34 AM
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Originally posted by Swager

So please do bless us with a more analytical answer for if I was able to perdict a devistating hurricane when I first posted this thread with my psychic abilities, I would be a rich man.



Quote
Just now posted by Ripsnort
.......Oh forget it, you're not worth the effort.


Keep wearing that tinfoil hat. Its becoming of you.:rolleyes: