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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: TrueKill on May 18, 2004, 02:06:52 AM
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here is some pics that iv been workin on for about 3-5 hours for when the squad im in goes to AH2 we can have our own skins. tell me what yall think(btw im new at this skin stuff this is the 1st true skin that i am ganna submit to HT)only been workin on the wings hope to start to on the body tomarrow.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/505_1084862752_190a-8skin.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/505_1084862845_190a-8skin1.jpg)
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what are skins and how do you make them?:confused:
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Jet unless ur really patience i wouldnt reacamend tryin to make skins but people make skins so in AH2 u can make ur plane have different markings on it.heres the link to a place that tells u how to make them.
Aces High Skins (http://www.ah-skins.com/skin_make.php)
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Remember that the skins have to be "historical" and that still doesn't mean that HTC will accept the skin.
The only skins that we will be able to use, online, are the ones that HTC accepts.
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yea i know this one is historical its a JG 54 "GRUNHERZ" 190A-8 and i hope he will accept caz iv been working hard on it.
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JG54 "GRUNHERTZ"
Man...delete the 'T' in that Link.
Ecke
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lol i must be goin crazy iv always thought there was a "T" in the name.
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;)
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Also you squad is not the only one who could use the skin.
HiTech
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rgr HT but i just wanna make it so on squad night we can have our own skins to fly in just to be historical
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Also you squad is not the only one who could use the skin.
Hitech
Vaaat? Zom-von elsh iz usink ohr skinz? Zat is outragezous. How darz zee oppontz uze ohr skinz! :D
Good work Tk. Keep it up... :aok
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lol Fork im startin to think ur crazyer then i am. heres the plane with the wings done. iv spent about 10 hours on it now.tell me what yall think
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/505_1084907713_ahss5.jpg)
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Do have a reference for your skin? I dont recall seeing an a8 painted like that? Especially not JG54 in 1944...
What group / staffel etc?
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Batz im tryin to make it look kinda like this one i cant find any with the clolor brown that i have yet but iv seen one with it when i was searching JG54 A/C its not ganna be perfect by im ganna try to make it kindy look like it:
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/505_1084910795_fw190_flug.jpg)
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heres what im tryin to make it look like:
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/505_1084912009_190mader.jpg)
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Those arent A8s....
These are (well most of them):
(http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/153713/0.jpg)
(http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/153712/0.jpg)
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Check this page out truekill ..
http://papaguy.hihome.com/plateshtml/plates5/8fw190a6.htm
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i know batz but last time i looked i couldnt find any a-8s with that skin but it is out there im just tryin to show u what im tryin to make it look like. well i just looked at slapshots URL thanks. batz look at that page theres the A-8 with the camo that im tryin to do.
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Thats why I asked what group/staffel so I could help you. As I said I have never seen an a8 in those colors...
What image are you working from? Is it in a book?
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oh lol i thought u were being an stunninghunk:D no im workin off this pic and memory of one i cant find anymore.know im ganna make it look like that pic on slapshots post thats kinda what the one i cant find looks like
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/505_1084898723_190_1_wt1.jpg)
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You A8 fans hang on. I have a nice skin started. MUHAHHA MUHAHHAHA MUAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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can u give us a preview?:)
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Just started. I am doing Heinz bar's A8 (red 13). will preview soon.
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rgr im almost done with mine i got to make some little details and im done will show a finnished result when im done.
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dsrtrat
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/334_1085026685_jg1rot13bar.jpg)
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can someone help me with this i cant find where to change the rudder of the bottem of the engine heres where im talking about
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/505_1085027610_ahss8.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/505_1085027556_ahss7.jpg)
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I found that also TK. They appear to be built yellow. HT may be able to better describe it, but it seems they have the actual model parts constructed in yellow. I was unable to map the (they are somewhere on the 190a8 bitmap). Even when you paint it all one colour, the yellow seems to be peaking out from underneath. I guess A8 skins without a yellow tail will not happen unless they change the model abit to accomodate paint on the tail. I don't know if they can simply rebuild those parts and add a seperate bitmap for them or not. Might be a little complex but it would be nice to be able to paint those parts.
HT or Pyro, any comments/suggestions?
I was also able to build a 2048x2048 skin, leave it t hat size and use it on the A8. Offline we can do that but anything for the MA has to be 1024x1024 correct?
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BTW, thanks batz, that is the one I am working on:))
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Yes main must be 1024 x 1024 @ 256/8 bit...
Search the forum here fester (Citabria) posted a link to a program called "bright".
It will reduce a bmp image to 256 / 8 bit colors without the pixilation normally seen when reducing colors in psd or psp.
The yellow marking on the A8 can’t be changed. One the A5 it’s located on the upper right by the mg bulges. It was left out on the a8.
I am doing Nowotny's A5 (>). I did a rivet line template from scratch.
I have nose art for JG1, when you get done pop me an email I will send it to you...
Here' a top down standard camo pattern for FW 190 A's
(http://users.hol.gr/%7Enowi/luftcam/schemefw190a8.jpg)
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OK IM FINALLY DONE after about 17 hours of workin on it and messing up twice so i lost about 4 hous on redoing it iv finneshed let me know what yall think
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/505_1085036591_ahss9.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/505_1085036642_ahss10.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/505_1085036703_ahss11.jpg)
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Looks good TK!
! Wish I could do that! :aok
Just got a little bit of bad news.
1. I think the paint scheme you are after was that of GeschwaderKommodore JG 54 Oberstlt. Anton Mader. The camo scheme is similar but you are off in places.
2. This scheme belongs to a 190A-6 not a A-8. It came off his 190A-6 at Dorpat, Estonia - July 1944.
3. You have to remember one thing when doing JG 54 paint schemes - especially paint schemes of aircraft stationed on the Eastern Front.
JG 54 did not go by the regular painting regulations set down by Luftwaffe command so you can only go by them to a certain extent. They made up their own to suit the terrain they were in and some of them are very famous.
II Gruppe's "SERPENT" scheme on their 109F's is one classic example.
I Gruppe's "PATCH" pattern of Black Green, Tan & Greys is another.
I will see if I can get the scanner going TK and send you some pics of the scheme your doing so you will have a refrence to go by.
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ANyone seen the link to Fester program "bright"? I can't find it.
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http://www.il2skins.com/files/bright183.zip
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Gold Star for Batz:)))
Now do you have any really neat yet different A5 colour plates? I have put Heniz Bar's A8 on hold as t here are some model issues with it (tail belloy are permanent yellow). If you could email them to me, that would be g reat. Like I said, I like the different and somehwat colourful one:))
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(http://www.jg54greenhearts.com/Lang_190A-5_5JG54_Siverskaja_Russia_May43.gif)
Flown by Leutnant Emil "Bully" Lang, 5./JG 54, Siverskaja/Russia, May, 1943.
Luftwaffe historians Ray Tolliver and Trevor Constable, describe Emil "Bully" Lang as "one of the bravest men" in the German Luftwaffe. This well known track-and-field athlete joined 9./JG 54 in the East in 1942. He earned the nick-name "Bully" from his bulldog-like appearance. On October 21, 1943, he achieved 12 victories (Nos. 62-73) in one day; in December 1943 within three weeks 72 victories, reportedly 18 on one day! As commander of II./JG 26 he carried on his successes on the Invasion front, shooting down 25 Allied aircraft in a matter of weeks. On July 9, 1944, "Bully" shot down three Spitfires in five minutes; on August 15, two P-47s in one minute; on August 25, two P-38s in three minutes; and on August 26, finally three Spitfires, his victories Nos. 171-173.
"Bully" seemed almost invulnerable, until the undercarriage of his Fw 190 fell out during a dogfight with P-47s over Belgium on September 3, 1944, whereafter he was then shot down and killed.
Comments: JG 54 was known for its ingenious camouflage colors and paint schemes. Both this Fw 190 A-5 [see above] and von Bonin's A-4 had a camouflage in two green colors which resembled the late war RLM 82, and 83.
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There are isssues with the A5 as well...
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/334_1085134577_fwa3.jpg)
The way the texture on the left wing is mapped it gives the illusion that the left wing is to narrow and too short...
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117437
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
Vaaat? Zom-von elsh iz usink ohr skinz? Zat is outragezous. How darz zee oppontz uze ohr skinz!
Roflmao on the German accent :lol :rofl :aok :D
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im looking for some of the good skin makers if u can help me i need to make my 190 have some 'scuff' on it i dont know how to do that if any1 could do it for me send me ur email and ill send u it so u can do it.
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Batz, looks good to me. Gonna start that one:)
Thanks again
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Im looking for some of the good skin makers if u can help me i need to make my 190 have some 'scuff' on it.
I dont know how to do that.. if any1 could do it for me send me ur email and ill send u it so u can do it.
Hmm..
It's not a good idea to ask for someone else to work on it TK. It is hard work, but it's a challenge any would-be skinner has to go through, and I must suggest that you try it yourself.
Experiment on things.. try to come up with ideas on how to depict the subtle stuff.. this whole skinning business is pretty much every bit based on trial-and-error, so you need some time.
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As for the A-8 skin, here's a few pointers. I hope it can be viewed as constructive criticism:
First thing I can suggest is a bit of quality control.
One thing I notice immediately is that the skin looks like it is in lower resolution. I can't judge it by the pics alone, but if the skin was indeed created in 1024x1024, then it appears that you're not quite using the full potential of the high-res skinning.
For instance, the panel lines definately need some sharpening. And the border/edge of colors seem a lil' bit .. how do you say.. 'blocky'.
Also, this could be personal, but the color seems a little bit awkward. There isn't any absolute source on what Luftwaffe colors were actually like, but still there's quite of bit of research done on most likely ones.
Try finding some sources on colors to use as reference - looking a picture reference at a glance and trying to replicate it by eye isn't a good idea. (I can post a few links if you need them)
Also, you'd need to concentrate a bit more on the subtle stuff - like for instance, the boundaries between colors are too sharp. These planes were first painted in their "base" colors, and then spray painted in camo colors. The sharp 'border' between differing colors, is what you'd get when you were using a paint brush, not an air spray. It's a small thing, but then again skinning is all about small things and how much of them one can replicate.
All in all, I think it's a great try - my first skin work done in AH1 was pretty much terrible. But it takes some time and experience to bring up the quality of one's skin to high standards.
For instance, I've recently finished Hans Joachim Marseilles Bf109F-4/trop. My very first skinning attempt was that plane. This is about the sixth time I've skinned that plane since AH1, and each time I try it again and again I get better results.
I recommend you try skinning some more planes, experiment a bit with the colors and techniques. With a lil' bit of experience behind you, I'm sure the 190 skin you've done will become something even better.
ps) I'm not sure if HTC will accept an A-8 skinned as a different variant. Be sure to inquire them by e-mail if it is possible.
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can u give me some tips on how to make my skin look better Kweassa. like how to make it a high resolution.