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Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: StabbyTheIcePic on May 18, 2004, 10:35:45 AM
Wonder how true it is.

http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/story/9316830p-10241546c.html
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Saurdaukar on May 18, 2004, 10:38:02 AM
"I killed innocent people for our government."

Man, sounds alot like Kerry, dont it?

Good thing he stated later that he was lying his bellybutton off.

Maybe this guy has political aspirations to?
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: StabbyTheIcePic on May 18, 2004, 10:40:09 AM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
"I killed innocent people for our government."

Man, sounds alot like Kerry, dont it?

Good thing he stated later that he was lying his bellybutton off.

Maybe this guy has political aspirations to?

Who stated they were lying and where?
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Monk on May 18, 2004, 10:52:14 AM
Doesn't sound very true to me.  His views on DU is pretty orginal...LOL.
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Scootter on May 18, 2004, 10:57:02 AM
what kind of Grunt speak is this

"I was in charge of a platoon that consists of machine gunners and missile men."


missile men - really:rolleyes:

Minute Man or MX

Nike Herc's


Never heard of a missile man platoon

me thinks this is B.S.
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Saurdaukar on May 18, 2004, 11:03:19 AM
There are SO Missile Men Platoons!

Have you never played Command and Conquer!

Missile Men FORWARD!

(http://www.toyarchive.com/STAForSale/NEW2001+/MOTU/HeManNewAdventures/FigFlipshotMALoose1a.jpg)
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Raubvogel on May 18, 2004, 11:11:07 AM
This guy is full of chit:


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"Depleted uranium. I know what it does. It's basically like leaving plutonium rods around. I'm 32 years old. I have 80 percent of my lung capacity. I ache all the time. I don't feel like a healthy 32-year-old."


umm....no it's not like plutonium at all....

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A: I had one of my Marines in my battalion who lost his leg from an ICBM.
Q: What's an ICBM?
A: A multi-purpose cluster bomb.


Huh??

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"He was honorably discharged with full severance"


After only 12 years? I gotta check into this severance program I'm missing out on!
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: gofaster on May 18, 2004, 11:13:15 AM
Stephen Glass.

Jayson Blair.

and now Paul Rockwell?
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: StabbyTheIcePic on May 18, 2004, 11:25:14 AM
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Originally posted by Raubvogel
This guy is full of chit:


 

umm....no it's not like plutonium at all....

 

Huh??



After only 12 years? I gotta check into this severance program I'm missing out on!


Yea that is what i figured. Sounded pretty fake, or that is one dumb grunt.
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Monk on May 18, 2004, 11:26:08 AM
Hehehe.....I missed that one.

I had one of my Marines in my battalion who lost his leg from an ICBM Could it been one of these.

(http://www.tribulation.com/images/topol.jpg)
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Gunslinger on May 18, 2004, 11:26:16 AM
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Originally posted by Raubvogel


After only 12 years? I gotta check into this severance program I'm missing out on!


This guy could very well be just a dumb Marine.....I KNOW I KNOW you dont run into too many of them ;)  

As far as medical discharge goes....the VA does a disability work up on you and you can retire w/ full pay (tax free) if you get 100% disability determination.  

That's just base pay....it doesnt include BAS/BAH Housing and rations  (avrg $1100 montly)
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Scootter on May 18, 2004, 11:26:55 AM
Mr Black??

naw, he was way smarter;)
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: GRUNHERZ on May 18, 2004, 11:48:35 AM
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A: I had one of my Marines in my battalion who lost his leg from an ICBM.

Q: What's an ICBM?

A: A multi-purpose cluster bomb.




Just one more time.... :eek:
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Spooky on May 18, 2004, 11:54:56 AM
Just a foreigner point of view here :

I've met US Marines while in the Navy :

No way any of them would talk like that, ever : they talk in acronyms and jargon all the time (and I had to translate, first in plain English! then in French)

Complete bull.

(but boy they can drink!)
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: gofaster on May 18, 2004, 11:56:51 AM
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Originally posted by Monk

(http://www.tribulation.com/images/topol.jpg)


I wouldn't mind driving one of those to work.  I wouldn't be able to fit it in the employee parking garage, though.  But - everyone could see it from the curb as they file in to their office cubicles!
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Pooh21 on May 18, 2004, 12:59:42 PM
Im gonna call up that rag and sell them the story of the carnage I caused with a squad of Power-Armor and giant Mecha robots.
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: muckmaw on May 18, 2004, 01:25:16 PM
I cannot believe anyone would print something so obviously bogus.

Frankly it's disgusting to me.

You must realize there are people who are not as familiar with the military as some folks here are.

These people will take a story like this at face value, and then judge all our marines based on a liars tale.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: jonnyb on May 18, 2004, 03:25:04 PM
Wow...sacbee.com...there's a reliable source for all your news...

There is absolutely no way this guy is a Marine, especially not a 12 year vet.  Let me point out just a few flaws...

1) 12 years in and he can't even accurately describe his MOS?  "...in charge of...machine gunners and missile men..." HAHAHA...Sure you were...missile men...LOL

2) Lit them up?  No 12 year vet, especially one in a position of command, would describe the act of opening fire on a vehicle that way.  It would be, "We fired warning shots.  When the vehicle did not slow down or stop, we incapacitated it."

3) Naming of one weapon, but not the next.  Why name the M16, but then not the proper name for the .50 calibers?  "My platoon used both the M16A2 rifles and the M2 machine guns," would have been correct.

4) He doesn't know the difference between an ICBM and a cluster bomb, and what kind of delivery platform they use.  Artillery-fired ICBMs.  That's rich.

5) He mouthed off to a commanding officer and was then retired with honorable discharge and full pension?  Wrong.  He would have been court martialed and dishonorably discharged for his antics.

I'm not going to get into any more...The Sacramento Bee is obviously a tabloid-like production.  That story is completely made up to tug at the heartstrings of the CA left-wing liberals.
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Connection on May 18, 2004, 03:26:55 PM
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Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: StabbyTheIcePic on May 18, 2004, 03:27:55 PM
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Originally posted by jonnyb
Wow...sacbee.com...there's a reliable source for all your news...

There is absolutely no way this guy is a Marine, especially not a 12 year vet.  Let me point out just a few flaws...

1) 12 years in and he can't even accurately describe his MOS?  "...in charge of...machine gunners and missile men..." HAHAHA...Sure you were...missile men...LOL

2) Lit them up?  No 12 year vet, especially one in a position of command, would describe the act of opening fire on a vehicle that way.  It would be, "We fired warning shots.  When the vehicle did not slow down or stop, we incapacitated it."

3) Naming of one weapon, but not the next.  Why name the M16, but then not the proper name for the .50 calibers?  "My platoon used both the M16A2 rifles and the M2 machine guns," would have been correct.

4) He doesn't know the difference between an ICBM and a cluster bomb, and what kind of delivery platform they use.  Artillery-fired ICBMs.  That's rich.

5) He mouthed off to a commanding officer and was then retired with honorable discharge and full pension?  Wrong.  He would have been court martialed and dishonorably discharged for his antics.

I'm not going to get into any more...The Sacramento Bee is obviously a tabloid-like production.  That story is completely made up to tug at the heartstrings of the CA left-wing liberals.


It seems like they took some true info and just exaggerated it(like the marines fireing on cars full of civilians, which has happened a few times). I think it is a mixture of a dumb grunt and bad journelism.
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: DiabloTX on May 18, 2004, 03:39:12 PM
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For three years he trained fellow Marines in one of the most grueling indoctrination rituals in military life - Marine boot camp.


I pretty much stopped after that.  "Indoctrination" is a term someone who obviously has an agenda against the military would use.  My boot camp experience was thus:

-Get in shape.
-Learn Navy history and terms.
-Spend 8 weeks practicing for graduation ceremony.

Indoctrination?

Yeah, right.

:rolleyes:
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Pooh21 on May 18, 2004, 03:39:56 PM
more like mixture of badlies and BS
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Mickey1992 on May 18, 2004, 03:57:00 PM
I find it odd that the town name was spelled wrong (it's Waynesville, not "Waynsville").

Someone wanna call Jimmy and ask him some questions?

Massey, Jimmy J
74 Pennant Dr
Waynesville, NC 28786-5804
828-454-9336
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Russian on May 18, 2004, 04:16:07 PM
This is comical.....
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Tumor on May 18, 2004, 04:30:16 PM
:rolleyes:
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Sixpence on May 18, 2004, 06:35:39 PM
I jumped in front of an ICBM for that guy!
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: txmx on May 18, 2004, 07:12:39 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
I pretty much stopped after that.  "Indoctrination" is a term someone who obviously has an agenda against the military would use.  My boot camp experience was thus:



 


Mine was to hide behind the big guy in front of me so the Drill Sgt would not notice me as much LOL.
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: strk on May 18, 2004, 08:28:43 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
I pretty much stopped after that.  "Indoctrination" is a term someone who obviously has an agenda against the military would use.  My boot camp experience was thus:

-Get in shape.
-Learn Navy history and terms.
-Spend 8 weeks practicing for graduation ceremony.

Indoctrination?

Yeah, right.

:rolleyes:


lol exactly  8 weeks of practicing for graduation. and we were spiffy in our brand new ricky dress blues lol.  My company had the cheerio flag!  we kicked ass

but Navy boot camp was not physically challenging in the least.  It needs a lot more PT.

and the article sounds like BS.  WHat tipped me is calling the Seargent-Major "sir" which is not right from enlisted to enlisted.  Unless the seargent major gets treated differently, but I dont think so.  

I spent fourth of july about 3 years ago doing fireworks with the seargent-major of the USMC btw
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: FUNKED1 on May 18, 2004, 09:23:08 PM
It's either a link to a humor site or else a reporter got pwn3d by a mentally ill person.  Either way, good laughs, thx Stubbyt3hIcegina.
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Rino on May 18, 2004, 09:55:06 PM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
I jumped in front of an ICBM for that guy!


    Watches Sixpence head for for space...WOW! :)
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Dinger on May 18, 2004, 10:05:15 PM
Yeah, the guy's not an expert in much.

ICBM is probably what the reporter heard when the guy said "ICM" though, "Improved Combat Munition", which are a family of subs including AP varieties (straight ICM) as well as anti-vehicle/anti-personnel mixes (DPICM)
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: Nash on May 18, 2004, 10:08:59 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
"...or else a reporter got pwn3d by a mentally ill person.  


I'm guessing that a mentally ill reporter pwn3d himself.
Title: Interview with a Marine
Post by: GRUNHERZ on May 18, 2004, 10:19:13 PM
While the article is very suspicious I think this is very intresting...

From article about DPICM.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/dpicm.htm

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The use of dud-producing munitions such as DPICM during Operation Iraqi Freedom in early 2003 incurred a penalty, restricting Marine'sr maneuver and follow-on operations in areas after their use. Marines were killed or seriously injured after encounters with dud munitions. After combat operations ceased, the duds continued to be a danger during civil-military operations, both to Marines and civilians. The use of dud producing munitions must be carefully considered in light of the penalty that will have to be paid later. The use of DPICM needs to be carefully considered in its employment. A better round needs to be developed that does not have a 2-4% dud rate.