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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: kamori on May 19, 2004, 06:22:31 PM
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I have deleted my post due to a misunderstanding. I did not realize how it came across.
No I was not threatened by HTC........
Ill choose my words more wisely next time this response was not what I wanted to happen.
Kalamori
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They have been available until this latest bug hunt version.
Have a drink.
Calm down, its only a Beta.
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i would guess they did it so there isn't a 30 plane 262 furball or that everyone would fly perks instead of the older planes.
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ROFL Awesome
-Sik
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maybe their testing the perk system code?
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Maybe they're testing the whineometre.
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Originally posted by BenDover
Maybe they're testing the whineometre.
Thats been bug free since the orginal release.
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WOW, you obviously havent been around long, at least i know you couldnt have been playin the BETA until very recently.
anyways, HTC im damn pleased, ill admit i was alil nervous at first but with what im seein now, nooo worries at all. Looks like more years with fun nights on AH2!!!
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if ya just gotta up that perked ride fly "offline" Im fairly sure that the perk rides have already gone thru extensive testing LOL. as mentioned earlier HT might be testing the perk system or maybe forcing us to use non-oerked rides to test them. OR his evil sense of humor got the better of him and he disabled all perked rides to make the whiners WHINE (think pyro mighta had a hand in the last one too!)
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Dont really give a rats arse about perk planes I never fly em any ways.
But If It Is still beta then they should all be free to fly just IMHO.
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a most silly thread..
first beta only had a few planes
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Originally posted by txmx
Dont really give a rats arse about perk planes I never fly em any ways.
But If It Is still beta then they should all be free to fly just IMHO.
Everything was free LAST week.
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I must say this is one of those rare posts that has me just staring at it in disbelief. kamori, I believe I will score you a solid 9.95 on the whine-o-meter. The only thing missing was the "I quit" at the end of it for the perfect 10.
Priceless stuff...
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i dunno Jonnyb, after a close review of the post, id have to say a 9.97
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See My top Post
Kalamori
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ROFLMAO:
HiTech
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Thought you'd like that one..... :D
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Seams to me that alpha/beta testing is almost always opened to a outside group of users .. Even the "HUGE" software companys use testers .
1st because of the wide deversity of machines running the program.
2nd because two eyes are better then one.
3rd its gets the users involved with the product and in a sense making It "Theirs to enjoy"
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
1st because of the wide deversity of machines running the program.
2nd because two eyes are better then one.
3rd its gets the users involved with the product and in a sense making It "Theirs to enjoy"
Exactly.... especially the 1st one. ;)
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Originally posted by kamori
Now to address the other replies...The only way to let HTC know all the bug issues in this game is to run all possible options (or as many as possible), Others that troubleshoot software for a living know this.
Ok, and an unperked 262 accomplishes this how?
:confused:
-Sik
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262 has been live from about beta 3... the problem is that none of the other planes were being tested. just monster furballs with 262s...
i think the action of disabling it since about tuesday this week is a good one...im sure you can find another plane on the llist to fly..
its only a game,
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Originally posted by kamori
It’s sad that criticism is taken as a whine, some of you must be so perfect and beyond reproach (due to some of your defensiveness).
Kalamori
No there just good little cheer leaders:aok
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Originally posted by hitech
ROFLMAO:
HiTech
ROFLMMFAO:rofl
WTG HT!!!
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Originally posted by hitech
ROFLMAO:
HiTech
LOL now theres a nice response.
You may think that everyone one that plays this game thinks your hot watermelon LOL.
But that would just be the product of your allready inflated ego my friend.
Get over your self pal and learn a little on how to treat people.
Laughing at em aint thet way to do it trust me.
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oh boy....lol
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10 quid says he comes back under a different name when the inevitable happens
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Originally posted by txmx
LOL now theres a nice response.
ROFL! I think it's a perfect response! You do know who HiTech is, don't you? Oh sure you do! Well I think you may be about to find out.... :aok :rofl
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Originally posted by txmx
No there just good little cheer leaders:aok
Of course! (http://www.flos.clara.net/storage/cheerleader.gif) :aok
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Originally posted by kamori
Who knows but is HTC feeling some pressure from WARBIRDS, they are advertising on Discovery Wings now.
heheh...that was my favourite bit.:)
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Originally posted by Flossy
You do know who HiTech is, don't you?
Yeah he is the fellow I PAY for a service.
Nothing more than that.
I have only spoke to him once on the phone and he seems like a decent fellow .
thats why I find It odd that He would laugh at his Paying customers like that.
Just seems counter productive to me.
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Originally posted by txmx
Sorry If I pissed off you fan boys but I tell it like i see it.
Hey, who you calling a fan boy? :p
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Originally posted by Flossy
Hey, who you calling a fan boy? :p
Not you Flossy you are one of the few Class acts in this game
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Originally posted by txmx
Yeah he is the fellow I PAY for a service.
Nothing more than that.
Nothing more than that? Nothing? Are you serious? Do you really think that all he does is rake in the cash? :)I have only spoke to him once on the phone and he seems like a decent fellow .
Well I had the great pleasure of meeting and speaking with him at last year's Con, and he is a "decent fellow" and I can just imagine him making the above post..... it's called humo(u)r! I thought he reacted pretty well, especially after the ridiculous comments that had been made about beta testing. :cool: ;)
Thanks for the compliment, by the way.... :aok
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Originally posted by kamori
Who knows but is HTC feeling some pressure from WARBIRDS, they are advertising on Discovery Wings now.
funny, I watch the discovery wings channel all the time and never saw that particular ad.
I have seen the ad for aces high though
P.S. nice formation flying in the ad there HT
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Originally posted by txmx
Yeah he is the fellow I PAY for a service.
Nothing more than that.
I have only spoke to him once on the phone and he seems like a decent fellow .
thats why I find It odd that He would laugh at his Paying customers like that.
Just seems counter productive to me.
odd I have talked to him on several occasions he even went out of his way to program a work around for me cause i was having trouble getting AH2 to start up. AND he offered to take me up in his plane!
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Originally posted by txmx
Get over your self pal and learn a little on how to treat people.
Laughing at em aint thet way to do it trust me.
Ironic quote of the month right there.
-Sik
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Originally posted by WilldCrd
Originally posted by kamori
Who knows but is HTC feeling some pressure from WARBIRDS, they are advertising on Discovery Wings now.
Is warbirds the same outfit that was or is suing HTC?
If so shame on them.
Compitition should be settled in the marketplace not the court room.
Let the consumers decide who they wish to give there money to.
And cleary history will show that they and I have and will give it to HTC.
People dont get me wrong here I admire the hell out of Dale!
He is one sharp cookie for such a young man.
:aok
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Ironic quote of the month right there.
-Sik
See above for deffinition of fanboy LOL.
And yes I know aint none of us perfect .
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Originally posted by txmx
See above for deffinition of fanboy LOL.
I'm a fanboi because I find you giving advice on how to treat people ironic?
That's interesting, and even funnier to me, as I happen to agree that Hitech goes too far with some folks. Its a real shame that he ran off Fidd a few months back, the community lost a real asset there.
-Sik
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LOL who's Fidd?
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Well I used this tactic one when selling a truck to an old guy when I worked for a Ford dealer.
After getting all the #s together I presented the paperwork to him and showed him where to signe.
He looked at it for a few seconds and then looked up and said son do I look like an Idiot to you?
To which I replied No SIR! But just in case I did not want to miss the opprtunity.
Well he laughed and bought the truck.
My point is you can get away with treating some people like fools some of the time .
As long as you can make them laugh LOL:aok
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Originally posted by txmx
LOL who's Fidd?
He was the best, most dedicated Plane Skinner from Air Warrior. He had just started working on skins for AHII when he made the mistake of criticizing the B-17 model in the Bug forum.
-Sik
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Originally posted by Sikboy
He was the best, most dedicated Plane Skinner from Air Warrior. He had just started working on skins for AHII when he made the mistake of criticizing the B-17 model in the Bug forum.
-Sik
Oh:(
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oops....
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under what criteria you’re supposed to offer the product to your clients
HT is offering this product as a beta, for testing.
It is HT's decision as to what he wants available for you to fly/drive and therefore what he wants testing with each release.
Who the hell are you to demand HT enables what you want in his Beta ?
You may pay to play AH1 but that gives you no rights to demand anything in AH1 or 2.
I think everybody else here can see the problem is in your original post, and if you can pull your head outa your bellybutton long enough, maybe, just maybe you will see it yourself.
The fact that you think you can demand anything in a beta release is whats so funny.
Now you are attacking HT personally and almost daring him to ban you.
Kalamori a shade account for a check6 denizen by any chance ?
Sikboy from memory Fidd came in and almost demanded the problems be attended to asap.
Now thats not the way you would get me to listen politely either.
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Originally posted by txmx
Oh im sure I will be banned .
Cause some folks just have way too thin of skin.
Never in my life have i seen the Owner of a company pop off to his PAYING customers like Dale does.
I dont know if its just ego or lack of maturity.
But either way It's just wrong.
Sorry If I pissed off you fan boys but I tell it like i see it.
2 words:
Derek
Smart
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I'm thinking somebody needs to take their prozac
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Originally posted by 214thCavalier
Sikboy from memory Fidd came in and almost demanded the problems be attended to asap.
I didn't read it that way. Here's the original thread:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=108836
I'd agree that he didn't need to add that last line. Just search the forums and all the threads are there.
-Sik
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Yup but i seem to recall reading some comments either in another thread or another bbs that did not give a good impression.
Sure not bothered enough to hunt them out tho :)
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Originally posted by Sikboy
He was the best, most dedicated Plane Skinner from Air Warrior. He had just started working on skins for AHII when he made the mistake of criticizing the B-17 model in the Bug forum.
That was indeed an unfortunate incident, I have to agree.... :( Fact is, Fidd is (was) very enthusiastic about creating skins - he and G42 came up with the idea of SAC (http://www3.mistral.co.uk/mthuff/index.html) for Air Warrior and I was very proud of the fact that my squad, The Krait Squadron, was also associated with SAC as they were members of the Kraits.
With the introduction of skins in AH2, Fidd's interest in AH was renewed, if only so that he could once again use his great skinning talents. Unfortunately, he made the mistake of questioning the problem with B17 skins - simply because he is something of a perfectionist when it comes to skins, and he saw the problem as a serious flaw. I'm afraid what followed meant a very talented skinner who would have been a great asset to the game was lost there and then.
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I dont really see why that thread was closed :confused:, i agree that last line wasnt really needed given this is just Beta stages etc, but from all the other crap talk about AH2 ive seen, that seems pretty small.
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Originally posted by 214thCavalier
Sikboy from memory Fidd came in and almost demanded the problems be attended to asap.
I have to agree also that perhaps Fidd could have been a bit more diplomatic about how he approached HiTech, but I really doubt he intended to come across as he did. I'm in a fairly unique position of having met both Fidd and HiTech - Fidd several times at various UK Cons, HiTech at last year's Con. I think if they had had the opportunity to discuss this face-to-face, the outcome would have been quite different. This is not an ideal medium and I can understand how misunderstandings can often happen.
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txmx quote:
LOL now theres a nice response.
You may think that everyone one that plays this game thinks your hot watermelon LOL.
But that would just be the product of your allready inflated ego my friend.
Get over your self pal and learn a little on how to treat people.
Laughing at em aint thet way to do it trust me.
txmx , "Your talking out the side of your neck on this one .
You don't have a clue ".........
"I have also called HTC and spoken to Dale , many times ....He has " never been too busy " or shined me on , and believe me , HTC and I have real big differences on HA 2 . But the bottom line for me and others, since 12/07/2000 ( when EA.com killed AirWarrior and I came to AcesHigh ) is,........ that these people at HiTech Creations are always there , never too busy and always listens , and sometimes I have chewed on rag pretty hard . But always with respect , and guess what ? , That is how all my little gripes and comments ( both pro and con ) have always been received ...."
You may want to take the time to do a couple of searches on the history of Hi-Tech Creations and this game as to, how and why it became so sucessful and community oriented . I can say for me that is wasn't from them treating their customer base like a bunch of hose-bag-sheep" !
"Less is More "......
CHECKERS
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Originally posted by AWCHKRS
LOL now theres a nice response.
You may think that everyone one that plays this game thinks your hot watermelon LOL.
But that would just be the product of your allready inflated ego my friend.
Get over your self pal and learn a little on how to treat people.
Laughing at em aint thet way to do it trust me.
txmx , "Your talking out the side of your neck on this one .
You don't have a clue ".........
"I have also called HTC and spoken to Dale , many times ....He has " never been too busy " or shined me on , and believe me , HTC and I have real big differences on HA 2 . But the bottom line for me and others, since 12/07/2000 ( when EA.com killed AirWarrior and I came to AcesHigh ) is,........ that these people at HiTech Creations are always there , never too busy and always listens , and sometimes I have chewed on rag pretty hard . But always with respect , and guess what ? , That is how all my little gripes and comments ( both pro and con ) have always been received ...."
You may want to take the time to do a couple of searches on the history of Hi-Tech Creations and this game as to, how and why it became so sucessful and community oriented . I can say for me that is wasn't from them treating their customer base like a bunch of hose-bag-sheep" !
"Less is More "......
CHECKERS
Wow you say you have been around for a long time?
how come you only got 9 post LOL.
:rolleyes:
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You know maybe I cam out with both barrells blazing.
For that I will say sorry to Dale;)
That is just what I find odd sometimes is that If you call Dale or Roy they will bend over backwards to answer any and all your questions.
And then other times on this BBS you will get a smartarse reply LOL.
Oh well we are all human.
I just think that maybe old Dale has got a quick trigger like me sometimes lOL.
Anyway HT you are a class act dude sorry if I was an stunninghunk .
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Originally posted by txmx
You know maybe I cam out with both barrells blazing.
For that I will say sorry to Dale;)
That is just what I find odd sometimes is that If you call Dale or Roy they will bend over backwards to answer any and all your questions.
And then other times on this BBS you will get a smartarse reply LOL.
Oh well we are all human.
I just think that maybe old Dale has got a quick trigger like me sometimes lOL.
Anyway HT you are a class act dude sorry if I was an stunninghunk .
welll IMHO if you have a serious thing to discuss email them or call them.
The BBS is more of a plethera of various thoughts ideas good bad ect. I would surmise that the majority of the smartassed remarks are retorts to either a percieved personal attack or slamming the game
and then their are the times when they just kidding but hey it's HT's BBS his game his rules if ya dont like somthing discuss it with him directly. If ya do it here...he's gonna flame ya
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Originally posted by WilldCrd
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I would surmise that the majority of the smartassed remarks are retorts to either a percieved personal attack or slamming the game
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Ya know I bet yer right.
And that makes perfectly good sense too.