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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: wrag on May 25, 2004, 02:47:47 AM
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Interesting read........
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/s/stock/2004/stock052504.htm
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The fella who wrote that letter is certifiable.
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As I have stated in other threads. Islam is a religion of hate and world domination. They will not hesitate to kill you, me, our children or our grandchildren. Arm yourselves. Pray that American pop culture invades their places, it's the only hope.
That or................
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Originally posted by storch
As I have stated in other threads. Islam is a religion of hate and world domination. They will not hesitate to kill you, me, our children or our grandchildren. Arm yourselves. Pray that American pop culture invades their places, it's the only hope.
That or................
You sound like "them".
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Originally posted by storch
Pray that American pop culture invades their places, it's the only hope.
Nothing in Islam can stand up to the might of Mc.Donalds, Britney Spears, and Shrek 2. Long live the might of the GoGurt, Starbucks, and Jay-Z. (got 99 problems. y'a know....)
Build Malls not Bombs.
-Lute III/JG26 9th ST WidowMakers
p.s. guy who wrote the letter sounded like a rabid dog. Only one thing you can do about that.
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Originally posted by storch
As I have stated in other threads. Islam is a religion of hate and world domination. They will not hesitate to kill you, me, our children or our grandchildren. Arm yourselves. Pray that American pop culture invades their places, it's the only hope.
That or................
Yeah, those 100,000+ or so Muslims around here are always having killing sprees.:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by VOR
The fella who wrote that letter is certifiable.
The article was written by a woman.
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Originally posted by AKIron
The article was written by a woman.
Astute observation ;)
Now, about that letter she received.....
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Originally posted by VOR
Astute observation ;)
Now, about that letter she received.....
There are likely many that post here that will say the same for the woman that wrote the article.
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Now I'm lost. :confused:
(Sorry, out of coffee)
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Originally posted by VOR
Now I'm lost. :confused:
(Sorry, out of coffee)
Just poured me a cup. I was only saying that it wasn't difficult to be confused as to who you think the nutbag is. Maybe even both. The writer of the letter and the writer of the article?
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Ok, now I'm tracking like a Scud! :D
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I know of no true God that would demand murder and genocide as the only path to heaven.
Why is it people feel the need to put human limits on a god?
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Originally posted by Sandman
Why is it people feel the need to put human limits on a god?
She only said that she didn't know your god. :p
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THE POPE is a criminal-Killed MILLIONS in Central AMERICA, 70 MILLION-CRIMES aginst HUMANITY! How is the drinking of the blood of the IRAQI children yesterday going. Thats part of your religion isn’t it, drinking the blood and eating the flesh.”
Maybe this guy should read my sig.
History has already witnessed and documented irrational hatred of this magnitude. Did the world learn nothing? The parallel between the events of today and pre-World War II are startling.
Radical Muslims believe the Jew is the enemy that must be exterminated. The Jew is the cause of Muslim poverty and suffering of Muslims everywhere. The Jew lives in comfort while Muslims suffer. It is Muslim destiny to be the rulers of the world and be the “Master Race” with all the inferior “races” subjugated under them or exterminated.
I was thinking the same thing - the parallels to Nazi Germany are more than coincidental. Maybe its a good thing most of the Islamic Middle East countries don't hold true elections.
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Originally posted by stiehl
Yeah, those 100,000+ or so Muslims around here are always having killing sprees.:rolleyes:
The Muslims here rapidly become "us" and Islam becomes more of a cultural thing. As being another - American. American culture will no doubt undermine all that fanatiscizm in time. We just need to be aware of our surroundings for our own good here at home or abroad. The writer of the letter is merely expressing what Islam teaches and practices in many of it's factions. It's a lot like Christianity in that there are many spin offs, The main difference lies in the person of their prophet and what he believed and preached as opposed to the teachings of Christ. They are diametrically opposed. One teaches love, forgiveness, tolerance, acceptance and redemption. The other teaches conversion or the sword. See if you can figure out which is which.
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Originally posted by storch
One teaches love, forgiveness, tolerance, acceptance and redemption. The other teaches conversion or the sword. See if you can figure out which is which.
Meaning, the Crusades?
Manifest Destiny?
I thought I heard something somewhere about carrying a bible in one hand and a sword in another...maybe it's only my imagination...
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Meaning, the Crusades?
Manifest Destiny?
I thought I heard something somewhere about carrying a bible in one hand and a sword in another...maybe it's only my imagination...
Yes yes yes. However look to what is written in the respective manuals. One is doing as is prescribed by the tenets of their "faith". The other is merely people taking the cloak of faith and committing acts that clearly contradict the very teachings they claim to be following. America is often called a "Christian" nation yet the behavior of our citizens and our government demonstrate that it is not. We are a secular and very libertine society. Pretty much always have been irrespective of the beautiful and lofty ideals upon which we were founded. Mr. Jefferson (The father of the Democractic Party) who wrote so brilliantly about the equality of man never emancipated the hundreds of humans which were his chattle. So go figure it out and report.
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Unless people stop believing in their superstitious BS, we'll always have to deal with the tards. Muslim/christian, pretty much the same except that christianity doesn't hold absolute power anymore. Reformation, Renaissance, rise of rationalism and scientific thought, all good things for us lliving in the west. The Crusades and Tamerlane probably weren't good occurances to the middle east and their worldview.
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Originally posted by VOR
Ok, now I'm tracking like a Scud! :D
Ahhh...I love the imagery.
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Im not too sure what to think of Islam but let me tell you, that religion is on my suspected bad guy list. I doubt that the religion itself us built to kill non believers and rule the world but the fact that so many of its followers behave just that way is troubling.
The rest of you just keep chewing your hands and feet off trying to one-up each other on whos got it right, Ill just keep watching....waiting....as prepared as is possible.
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Hmmm.....
The fella that wrote the letters that the woman used in her editorial does not seem to be a friendly to anyone but muslims that believe the way he does kinda fellow.
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Unless people stop believing in their superstitious BS, we'll always have to deal with the tards. Muslim/christian, pretty much the same except that christianity doesn't hold absolute power anymore. Reformation, Renaissance, rise of rationalism and scientific thought, all good things for us lliving in the west. The Crusades and Tamerlane probably weren't good occurances to the middle east and their worldview.//
I don't see it that way. I don't see christians in America threatening or terrorising people into christianity. Have I missed something???? Is everyone in America christian? Don't recall that EVER being the case.
Rationalism? That technique pretty much always seemed like a way many used thoughtful arguments to try to justify what it was they wanted to do in the 1st place.
Reformation?, Renaissance?, perhaps neither is or was the actual case, perhaps they were only a return more toward what was originally put forth?
Tamerlane? thought he stayed in the very far east with his conquest? Thought it was Genghis himself that came to the middle east? Also thought I read somewhere that without him we could all be speaking Arabic and worshipping Allah. And that the Crusades (which pretty much struck me as led by individuals seeking their own gain rather then what was actually claimed as the goal) would have never happened.
Hmmm thought I also read that in his law the "Yassa" ? The very 1st law was not written for the general public to see? Thought I read that it said .. There is only one God .. ?
Tards? Known some in my time. Surprisingly a great many of THEM seemed to be college educated, even :D
And just as frequently many claim THEIR way was/is the only way, and the rest of us will just have to live with it cause their gonna change it to THEIR way... seems like everytime we turn around THEIR making some new law that only THEY truley understand a need for, that is if THEY really do, BUT we had better adhere to it, or THEIR interpretation of it anyway, or ELSE!
I wonder sometimes just how long it will be before we are told just how much toliet paper we may use, and the direction/method we may use to wipe?
Starting to think of THEM as politically correct tyrants. Tyrants that insist we not believe, no matter what our life expierence is, in what THEY have decided is superstitious BS. Never mind that the scientific approach can neither prove nor disprove that superstitious BS. Never mind that scientific thought is unable to prove or disprove so very many things because they quite simply do not have enough information/knowledge. I have sometimes wondered at this. Is this more of an attempt at the glorification of human thought?, Of humanism? Is it arrogant to think the human mind which is still gropping to understand our universe can prove or disprove the existance of a creator?
Hmm..
What exactly is the difference between the face of Islam types and the PC crowd??? Violence???
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Originally posted by Yeager
Im not too sure what to think of Islam but let me tell you, that religion is on my suspected bad guy list. I doubt that the religion itself us built to kill non believers and rule the world but the fact that so many of its followers behave just that way is troubling.
The rest of you just keep chewing your hands and feet off trying to one-up each other on whos got it right, Ill just keep watching....waiting....as prepared as is possible.
You may read it any time in the rambling collection called The Holy Quoran
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Genghis happened after the Crusades. Tamerlane invaded Persia around 1400.
Before 1000 or so the Arabs weren't really all that harsh to nonbelievers(well, compared to some religions) and they had a pretty advanced culture. Afterwards, the Ottomans were able to take control of the region and seemed to of lead it to it's own Dark Age.
Who said that all Americans are christian?? If we were living in a theocracy, do you think that we would be all that different than some of the Muslim nations?
Reformation, Renaissance, rise of rationalism and scientific thought. These things lead people to throw off the shackles of Mother Church. If going against the bible made you a heretic and heretics got roasted, how far would our scientific advances have gone?
People can believe in any superstition they want. When they start trying to control what other people do or crash planes into my front yard, I get somewhat miffed. Why can't you all be Buddhists or something, a nice, quiet belief
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Hmmm,...
You are telling me that Genghis Khan came after Tamerlane? Perhaps I have commited an error? The name Tamerlane seems to come ofter Genghis in my history? Thought he inherited a portion of the empire, recall Ogidai ascended to the leadership and shortly after died? Perhaps I have the spelling incorrect? Wait was the empire divided up among them after Genghis? But Ogidai was supreme?
Hmmm...
Thought Genghis Khan was Tamerlanes Grandfather? Thought Tamerlane was the ruler in the area of China? Wasn't it Tamerlane that tried to invade Japan? Perhaps I don't remember correctely and need to reread some of my military history. Don't have, and have not read, as much as I would like.
Thinkin perhaps we have read different renderings of history?
The Ottoman Empire? They were still around at the start of WWI. Rather advanced were they not? Fought the Brits and Aussies at Galippollie? Think they had moderen weapons too. Isn't Turkey somewhat of a remainder of the Ottoman Turks???
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Reformation, Renaissance, rise of rationalism and scientific thought. These things lead people to throw off the shackles of Mother Church. If going against the bible made you a heretic and heretics got roasted, how far would our scientific advances have gone? //
You are refering to the inquisition?
The dark ages affected allot of cultures and seemed a step backward.
They weren't all that hash to jews or christians? Perhaps again we have read different history.
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People can believe in any superstition they want. When they start trying to control what other people do or crash planes into my front yard, I get somewhat miffed. Why can't you all be Buddhists or something, a nice, quiet belief//
Not sure I care for all that chanting.... :)
You are claiming christians are trying to control what you do? In what way? And crashing planes into your front yard???
As it may have been noticed I have reacted to what I see as the TOO broad a paint brush approach.
To include so many within one statement is abit much in my view.
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I could be mistaken but IIRC Timur (Tamerlane) c1336-1405 gained the throne of Samarkand. He attempted to reunite Genghis Khan's empire. his notably victories were against the Tatars and the Turks, the latter near the end of his life. He was killed in battle invading China.
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Tamerlane came after Ghengis, started off around samarkand, invaded Persia, Russia, then India. Don't where you came up with "Genghis Khan came after Tamerlane" 'cause I didn't say anything of the sort.
"The Ottoman Empire? They were still around at the start of WWI. Rather advanced were they not? Fought the Brits and Aussies at Galippollie? Think they had moderen weapons too. Isn't Turkey somewhat of a remainder of the Ottoman Turks??? "
You actually thing that the Ottomans were as advanced as the western powers?? Especially society-wise? As advanced as they could have been if they kept progressing like they were in earlier days?
Religious fundies didn't crash planes into buildings a few years ago? They don't try to dictate how people live their lives???
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Originally posted by storch
his notably victories were against the Tatars .
I knew it!
So thats who invinted Tarter sauce
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Before we have to open a new thread on Tamerlane, my point was that all that crap most likely changed the way that the Arabs viewed the outer world. If America was invaded several times on that scale(how many people died during the crusades?) how would we change as a people?
How the heck did we to this point anyway?? History lessons from a college dropout:D
There's a thread; Conquerers of the Old World: Who Kicked the most Arse?
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Originally posted by stiehl
There's a thread; Conquerers of the Old World: Who Kicked the most Arse?
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005NBZB.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
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America has been invaded that many times and more!!
The Norsemen
The Anglish (dew ah get teu kill anglish?)
The Spaniards
The French
The Dutch
The Italians
The Chinese
The Koreans
The Japanese
The Vietnamese
The Russians
The Poles
The Mexicans
The Cubans
The Nicaraguans
The Hondurans
The Salvadorans
The whole freaking lot of Humanity has invaded us and we are currently being invaded. So what was your point again?
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Originally posted by storch
America has been invaded that many times and more!!
The Norsemen
The Anglish (dew ah get teu kill anglish?)
The Spaniards
The French
The Dutch
The Italians
The Chinese
The Koreans
The Japanese
The Vietnamese
The Russians
The Poles
The Mexicans
The Cubans
The Nicaraguans
The Hondurans
The Salvadorans
The whole freaking lot of Humanity has invaded us and we are currently being invaded. So what was your point again?
Those people sacked cities, raped and pillaged, all that good old stuff?
Well, I guess the Spaniards did. But I'm doing my best to make up for the ravishings with my Spanish gf:p
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Originally posted by stiehl
Those people sacked cities, raped and pillaged, all that good old stuff?
Well, I guess the Spaniards did. But I'm doing my best to make up for the ravishings with my Spanish gf:p
Well maybe a little, In certain parts of Miami they are raping and pillaging daily. :) But more importantly they have all left an indeliable mark upon the fabric of our society. We are all better for it, at least I think so.
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Hmm...
I believe Genghis Khan's invasion of Islam was the 1st of the mongol invasions, and I believe Tamerlane tried to rebuild that empire.
And according to many historians that invasion changed the course of Islam dramatically. Seem to recall reports that Genghis claimed he was Allah's punishment upon the world of Islam. Hmm a head trip on his enemies?
I'm not sure that the proper name for those that flew the planes into buildings would be religious fundies. I tend to see them as something else altogether. I further fail to see how christians, or the average muslim, and these extremist compare. Perhaps you can help me out here?
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Tamerlane came after Ghengis, started off around samarkand, invaded Persia, Russia, then India. Don't where you came up with "Genghis Khan came after Tamerlane" 'cause I didn't say anything of the sort.//
Please re-read my post. I believe I posed that as a question???
According to some military history books I have read, Genghis Khan's invasion of Islam was the 1st of any mongol attacks in that area. An aside, a couple of his generals wonder north westerly with some troops and struck fear into all of western europe.
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Originally posted by VOR
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005NBZB.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
Aint that a painting by Frank frazetta ?
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Originally posted by storch
Pray that American pop culture invades their places, it's the only hope.
I thought about sending them Courtny Love, then I thought the Red Cross would object
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Originally posted by txmx
Aint that a painting by Frank frazetta ?
yes
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Originally posted by Fridaddy
I thought about sending them Courtny Love, then I thought the Red Cross would object
Its time we called up the big guns.....Jimmy Carter....he can figure this whole thing out in one fellow swoop! ;) <--please note the blinking eye
seriously though if you look at the old testiment and Just the old testiment you'd get a vision of GOD and just god as viewed by christians as being very brutal and unforgiving....this is were christianity comes into play and that is why jesus is so important to us.
I'm not saying I know enough about islam to state a fact but formulate a less than educated opinion. I think these fundimentalists are just looking at there "old testiment"so to speak and taking extremes from it. Just my impression though.