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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Eagler on May 25, 2004, 07:15:33 AM

Title: X45
Post by: Eagler on May 25, 2004, 07:15:33 AM
I was excited whe I first heard the trim controls were going to be true rotor control (IL2/FB style) instead of the banded work around.

After trying the new way, I have resorted back to the banded method for both aileron and rudder trim. This seems more precise a control than the pure rotor way, hard to center them up quickly.

I use the rotor method for elevator trim only but find I have to calibrate it when I calibrate the rest of the HOTAS (X45/CH Pro Peds) otherwise it is not centered. I find the elevators to work much better the new way while the other two trims work out better the old banded way.  just a fyi...
Title: X45
Post by: paulieb on May 25, 2004, 11:36:39 AM
Yeah, I have an X45 too... figures that Saitek would announce the X56 right after I got it, too.  :mad:
Title: Trim settings....help
Post by: kamori on May 25, 2004, 06:36:53 PM
Eagler,
    I have my trim controls set on the index finger hat on the throttle stick. It works well. I maped it using bands. Now if I understand you correctly can this be set to a dial for the elevator trim. Does this give the trim a faster response? Im trying to get the elevator trim to respond quicker.

Thanks for your help.

Kalamori
Title: X45
Post by: Eagler on May 26, 2004, 09:51:54 AM
yes you can set trim to rotors in AH2

I have the throttle thumb rotor set as elevator trim in this fashion now. It works well this way for me. You set it up in the AH2 joystick setup by assigning that rotor "pitch trim"

the other trims I have left as banded as they function faster and more precise that way for me
Title: X45
Post by: Tilt on May 26, 2004, 01:11:29 PM
I have

LH thumb wheel as elevator trim
LH index finger wheel as aileron trim

They seem to work well a setting on the rotary = a trim setting on the bar line.

Rudder rocker as rudder trim (only used when part of wing is missing)

I did move rpm to the mouse wheel but lost right click mouse functionality upon doing so. rpm now back on keypad +-
Title: X45
Post by: AKWeav on May 26, 2004, 03:00:04 PM
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Yeah, I have an X45 too... figures that Saitek would announce the X56 right after I got it, too.


Well if your X-45 is anything like the three I had in 9 months, you'll be taking it back to the store soon.  Seems the main hat switches are extreamly weak.  Which was really a shame as I really liked the stick and throttle, and I miss all the buttons.:(
Title: X45
Post by: Sikboy on May 26, 2004, 03:46:45 PM
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Originally posted by AKWeav
Well if your X-45 is anything like the three I had in 9 months, you'll be taking it back to the store soon.  Seems the main hat switches are extreamly weak.  Which was really a shame as I really liked the stick and throttle, and I miss all the buttons.:(


wow, I've never heard of this before. Perhaps you just have really strong thumbs?

-Sik
Title: X45
Post by: AKWeav on June 06, 2004, 07:18:35 AM
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wow, I've never heard of this before. Perhaps you just have really strong thumbs?


Check the Saitek forums, a common problem with the X-45 it seems.
Title: X45
Post by: Tilt on June 06, 2004, 07:41:16 AM
With the CT and FM's finished I find I no longer need an aileron trim.

I have now combined both aileron and rudder trim onto the old rudder rocker  so both move as I adjust the rocker..........


Pitch trim is still on the thumb potentiometer and rpm is on the index finger potentiometer.

When re calibrating you must always calibrate all the potentiometers.
Title: X45
Post by: AcId on June 06, 2004, 09:20:41 AM
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Originally posted by AKWeav
Check the Saitek forums, a common problem with the X-45 it seems.


Guess I got lucky with mine, had it over 2 years now *knock knock*
Title: X45
Post by: Overlag on June 06, 2004, 12:44:11 PM
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Originally posted by AKWeav
Check the Saitek forums, a common problem with the X-45 it seems.


yup... horrible build quality on the stick...

the throttle build is ok, the stick is horrible....doesnt center, hats are broken etc etc....
Title: X45
Post by: ALF on June 06, 2004, 06:46:10 PM
As with any mass produces product, the price -vs- quality formula is one of the key things a manufacturer must deal with.  In the case of the X45, I think they have done a great job.  Its not the best stick ever built...but its built pretty well.  Mine is 2-3 years old, and is just starting to wear out the main hat switch that I use CONSTANTLY (2-4 hours a day).....the hat still works, but I have to blow it out every few days (havnt tried tuner cleaner yet).

For $79 (less on sale) I cant complain....CH gear costs three times that, and isnt likely to last me three times as long.

I cant wait for the new Saitek stick....I could care less about the startrek look...it has some great additional featers planed....like the DUAL STAGE TRIGGER!

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Title: X45
Post by: Overlag on June 06, 2004, 08:39:32 PM
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Originally posted by ALF
that I use CONSTANTLY (2-4 hours a day).....


err 2-4 hours a day isnt constantly ;)  more like 5-9 hours....like i do :lol :o
Title: X45
Post by: Easyscor on June 07, 2004, 09:12:53 AM
Buy your sticks at CompUSA and pickup the two year warrenty for $15 US.  I'm on my 2nd stick and another new warrenty when the hat started to go after 14 months.  I had to wait without a stick for two days while they did the paperwork at the store but I have had the 2nd stick since March.
Title: X45
Post by: Overlag on June 07, 2004, 09:16:39 AM
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Originally posted by Easyscor
Buy your sticks at CompUSA and pickup the two year warrenty for $15 US.  I'm on my 2nd stick and another new warrenty when the hat started to go after 14 months.  I had to wait without a stick for two days while they did the paperwork at the store but I have had the 2nd stick since March.


and the cost of shipping would be half the price of the stick........ ;)
Title: X45
Post by: streakeagle on June 07, 2004, 09:45:51 AM
I bought my X-36 at BestBuy and my X-45 at CompUSA...

But I didn't by any kind of extended warranty. I have had the X-36 since 2000 and the X-45 since 2002. Both still work 100%. Glad I didn't waste my money on extended warranties. Guess I am just lucky and don't beat up my sticks too bad despite daily use.