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Title: LA-7 Skin ... Photoshop help needed
Post by: airmess on May 25, 2004, 05:48:08 PM
I'm working on a LA-7 skin and need some help on making a metal looking part like some use on the P-51 wings and fuselage.

Could you tell me how you make this metall looking effect please ?

Thanks

airmess

(http://www.me109.net/x_screenshot/La7_001.jpg)

(http://www.me109.net/x_screenshot/LA_7_Green.jpg)
Title: LA-7 Skin ... Photoshop help needed
Post by: Tilt on May 25, 2004, 06:03:41 PM
(http://www.tilt.clara.net/White77/prtfrnt.jpg)

This has the heat shield incorrectly painted but it does show how rivetless the La7 cowling and exhaust cowl flap was.

Also the side panel whilst there is barely discernable..........
Title: LA-7 Skin ... Photoshop help needed
Post by: SELECTOR on May 25, 2004, 06:17:16 PM
this picture is focused on foreground..i'm sure i see rivets on the heat sheild..
also the planes in museums have been painted how many times in 60 years?

nice pic sure enough
Title: LA-7 Skin ... Photoshop help needed
Post by: Kweassa on May 25, 2004, 06:18:21 PM
airmess, I feel your pain.

 Having to depict 3D objects with 2D methods(as in the Lavochkin gunports, bumps, and exhaust/heatshield..) is pretty much a drag.

 There's no real way to do it except literally "paint" the surface on as if you'd paint a picture.
Title: Thanks
Post by: airmess on May 25, 2004, 06:27:44 PM
Tilt .. thanks for the picture. It helps me a lot to understand the engine part.

And Kweassa thanks for you support. It's not as painfull as you think. The clue is to get a good view of the part you want to do. And there are not many good images of the LA-7 arround.

And by the end we're doing some "replicas" with our skins which never can be 1:1 how they where once.

When the LaLa "Tele Tabbie Plane" is finished (or it finishes me before) i'll post it.

airmess
Title: LA-7 Skin ... Photoshop help needed
Post by: Tilt on May 25, 2004, 08:09:06 PM
More pictures..........

http://www.tilt.clara.net/White77/index.html

AS selector said this has been repainted incorrectly although I can assure you it has not had many coats of paint............

I have a feeling that the colour scheme you are trying to render is post may 45.....ie it never saw active service in this colour scheme.........
Title: LA-7 Skin ... Photoshop help needed
Post by: dsrtrat on May 25, 2004, 09:04:47 PM
Airmess, if you have paintshop pro, there are several flood fills that replicate metal. If you don't, I could do it for ya if ya told me exactly what and where was needed.
Title: LA-7 Skin ... Photoshop help needed
Post by: NHawk on May 25, 2004, 09:14:22 PM
Airmess...try this BMP see if it helps.

(http://www.ah-terrains.com/ahpics/grays.bmp)
Title: LA-7 Skin ... Photoshop help needed
Post by: ramzey on May 25, 2004, 10:57:03 PM
imo, Simpliest way to make them same looking as from p-51 is just cut part of bitmap from p51 and paste in to la7 skin. Then fit as you like by scale, rotation and twist-squiz
Title: LA-7 Skin ... Photoshop help needed
Post by: Reschke on May 26, 2004, 08:20:59 PM
Try getting some ideas from over at http://www.il2skins.com they have some really good skin guys over there that help out alot.
Title: LA-7 Skin ... Photoshop help needed
Post by: ergRTC on May 26, 2004, 09:47:14 PM
Come on people!  Nobody has mention the forward slats!!!!!!!

What is that about!


I thought those were only on 109s during the war.


Nice museum pic
Title: LA-7 Skin ... Photoshop help needed
Post by: Batz on May 26, 2004, 11:13:46 PM
What are you talking about? The LA5FN and the La7 had slats in RL and have them in AH2....

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Nice museum pic


Yeah its nice, whats that on the leading edge of the wing?

(http://www.tilt.clara.net/White77/prtfrnt.jpg)

Looks like slats to me.....
Title: LA-7 Skin ... Photoshop help needed
Post by: straffo on May 27, 2004, 02:03:19 AM
Messy read this : http://www.1java.org/sh/tutorials/adlab-alu1.html
Title: LA-7 Skin ... Photoshop help needed
Post by: ergRTC on May 27, 2004, 08:11:47 AM
I am not denying the plane had slats, I just never noticed them in the game.  Are they functional in ah2?  The 109s kick out visibly.
Title: Yellow 06
Post by: Tilt on May 27, 2004, 10:55:37 AM
Did fly during the GPW..........  it was active in the Baltic (presumably against JG54 etc) during early spring 45.


The colour is AMT-12 which was the standard darker  colour  applied at the facory on the two tone camo..........

The lighter colour of AMT - 11 was the more common (grey) to be applied as a single colour.