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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Urchin on May 25, 2004, 11:59:34 PM
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FYI, it is quite possible to get a "good" fighter rank without resorting to Spit/Nik/La7. Flew the 190s mostly and some 109s this month and ended up in 7th. I'm now clinically insane from constantly fighting 3+ on 1 in a 190, so I'm starting my nik/spit/la7 month a week early.
So you won't be able to point to my stats and say "look, it is possible".... but it is.
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LOL Urchin has gone insane!
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Urchin - but you did fly P51D - you're disqualified. ;)
Good work in the 109 - especially the 109E. Did you film any of it? Would love to see....
I got to #91 without flying any Big5 in T49. I'm OK about that - not bad for an old fart.
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I too lost my sanity tonight. Urchin I think you were there to witness it. Granted I've only been here 18 months or so but I have never seen such poor players on the rook team. With the obvious exceptions, rooks are just plain awful... I'm talking REALLY bad.
They think drag has something to do w/ how they dress on the weekends. They think rope is something they bring on their dates while dressed in drag. They think setup is a blind date that they can tie up with their ropes while dressed in drag.
I'm not talking about noobs. The run of the mill rook just doesn't have a clue about working together......nothing. I remember that, while I believed all sides had some good pilots, rooks were the better bunch overall. IMHO. No more. I am belabouring the point but they are just...... terrible.
3 and the final, examples:
I dragged Bloodnut's F4U past the noses of 4 rooks tonight, 3 of the names I recognized as having been around for a while. Not one of them had the sense to drop on his 6, even after I gave them an angle. To a man, with the exception of one guy, who sort of just wandered off, they all went for the HO, leaving me stuck w/ Bloodnut spraying like mad at 700, as I had started him in a gentle climb to set him.
#2
A rook pony was fighting a nik. Both of these planes were right over me. I was just close enough to worry the nik. The nik reverses down to HO me, leaving a perfect shot opportunity for the high rook pony, my teammate. I watch as the nik slowy goes over the top, a cherry to be plucked from the sky for my high teammate. To my horror, my teammate literally wanders off aimlessly. End result, I'm Ho'd by the nik.
The reason my high teammate meandered off: He was adjusting the gamma setting on his monitor. Forget the gamey tardness of this. He actually decided to do this in the middle of that fight.
Rooks have become so lax at giving check 6's that I don't give them anymore either. In fact, to prevent myself from an old habit, I deleted my check 6 button.
Anyway, since Stang and my muppet friends aren't always on, I'm done w/ rooks. Right now I just don't think I could stand another flight with these idiots without punching my fist thru my monitor.
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GL to you steve.. I would offer this before you leave though.. I have found that no matter what the circumstances are, or how terrible some act/are, there are always others doing the exact same thing on both the other countries.. In short, all countries are the same..
I fly for fun, squad, and then country in that order.. Its good when one is as fortunate as me and is able to fly with such a great group of guys.. I consider myself lucky..
Next time be a little more vocal on the room chan.. hehe Had I been there you'd have been cleared.. 8)
dude
AoM
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urchin *has* gone insane? :p
heh, steve - it's the same no matter where you go. all red suck. all green suck slightly more. but it is good to hop around now and then for the fresh perspective it allows, plus the opportunity for a little payback on the green suckage. :D
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Originally posted by beet1e
Urchin - but you did fly P51D - you're disqualified. ;)
Good work in the 109 - especially the 109E. Did you film any of it? Would love to see....
I got to #91 without flying any Big5 in T49. I'm OK about that - not bad for an old fart.
Actually, no I didn't.
I was looking through my stats last night after 1 flight in the N1K and 2 in a Spit V.
And then I saw I had 3 deaths in the N1K, some flights in the Seafire, and one or two in the P-51D.
Unless I died 3 tiimes in one sortie, that just ain't possible... and I never flew the other two planes at all.
Only thing I can figure is someone was flying under my account, which makes a certain kind of sense because I've had a lot more than my fair share of disco's this month, and you get disconnected instantly if someone logs in with your account while you are playing.
I changed my p/w this morning, hopefully that'll take care of it.
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ah steve you dont want to go and leave us. I think, and this is just me talking now, that because you are in a very small squad its harder for you to get good help when it is really needed. I know that flying with or near a good bunch of guys has really saved my butt more than a time or two. Flying with kappa is great because he's always there, its amazing really to wing with him because he is so easy to fly with. (Maybe more my style is why)
Stick around man, or take a few days off. For a while last week or the week before that I was about ready to call it quits. I never said anything but I would just not want to fly. So I took a few nights off and then came back and was ready to go again.
Like Kappa said, Muppets rock :D It should be against the rules to have as much fun as we do. :D
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STEVE.........Grow Up.......You have been told for years from fellow squaddies you need too Grow Up.
You get yourself in impossible situations then call for help and when non squaddies dont help or are unwilling to die with you you cry they sk.....I think a GOOD pilot would not get themselves in that situation in the first place.
Please make the attitude change or go away.
We are sick and tired of your whining....
Dont let the door hit you in the prettythang when you go.
Please go away....
Kalamori
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Originally posted by Urchin
I changed my p/w this morning, hopefully that'll take care of it.
Estes was on your account earlier this month. He said you'd offered your password so he could fly for one night after he'd lost his and had to wait until the end of the weekend to call HTC to fix it.
You must've been drunk when you made that offer. :)
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by kamori
STEVE.........Grow Up.......You have been told for years from fellow squaddies you need too Grow Up.
You get yourself in impossible situations then call for help and when non squaddies dont help or are unwilling to die with you you cry they sk.....I think a GOOD pilot would not get themselves in that situation in the first place.
Please make the attitude change or go away.
We are sick and tired of your whining....
Dont let the door hit you in the prettythang when you go.
Please go away....
Kalamori
wtf?
I am not sticking up here for steve, lord knows he can do that on his own just fine. BUT steve is a dam good pilot and the times we've flown together I never once saw him doing anything stupid. Taking risks and being stupid are two entirely differnt things all together. Taking risks is what makes the game fun. Its what we fly for. Flying into places where you shouldnt be and being able to fly away unhurt. THats the challenge and its what makes the game fun...
I know its difficult to turn fight a plane. I know its very scary at times but when you do it, and win, the thrill is there and its what you are going to be looking for again and again from that point on.
Kalmori, for someone telling another to "grow up" you aren't sounding too mature yourself here.
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Well Steve, even though I pretty much suck in fighter mode lately, my k/d ratio has turned into a d/k ratio from helping anyone and everyone who asks for help or needs it. I even ask a rook engaged 1 v 1 before I go in. I'll stay out if they want. Here's what it's gotten me:
1. I'll work my tail off to set up a 250 yd kill shot in something like a P-40 or C.202 then have 6 la-7's zoom in front of me from underneath or through my plane just as I open fire - Instant tower from killshooter.
2. I'll give up alt to come in to help someone trailing 3 or 4 bogies. I try to at least get them to pull off by not going after the trailing guy. I try to come in from a front-quarter angle so they all see me as I try to throw a little lead into each to make them disengage. I'm left with a 3/4 v 1 while the rook in trouble flys off home undamaged without so much as a thanks.
3. Some rooks are great about check 6's, some don't know how, but the worst are the ones who intentionally don't give them because they don't want you to maneuver and ruin the perfect shot they have on the target-fixated guy about to blindside you.
I think it's this new generation... I remember the old days when we used to have to get up at 4AM and chop wood before we flew our planes through 100 miles of snow... :)
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kalamori needs to 'grow' some balls and dive in the furball head first for a change...
Lev beat me to it :)
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It's a game.
If it is making you angry, you should stop playing it.
...also, don't ever expect help. That way it will be nice when you get it and won't upset you when you don't.
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Estes was on your account earlier this month. He said you'd offered your password so he could fly for one night after he'd lost his and had to wait until the end of the weekend to call HTC to fix it.
You must've been drunk when you made that offer. :)
-- Todd/Leviathn
Oh ok, that explains it.
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ou have been told for years from fellow squaddies you need too Grow Up.
Really? what squaddies? What squads? I missed all this. Darn such fascinating conversations were being had and I wasn't there. Thanks for letting me know what I've been missing all these "years". lol
You get yourself in impossible situations then call for help
Really? I missed this too. I don't really remember "Calling" for help all that often. In fact, hardly ever do at all. Of course, what people like you consider "impossible" might just start to be interesting or challenging to others.
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Steve - there's an easier way. Talk on voxx to your fellow rooks. If you get no answer, not even text, the guy is a dork, or doesn't want to work with you, or both. I've been in situations with about 8 rooks and not a word passes on voxx. No 6 calls, no discussion of tactics, nothing. I usually just land, and relocate to another part of the map when I'm amongst guys like that.
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Dude, Morph, Shane, Furious, Rolex, and Beet:
You guys all make good points, of course. I was whining for the sake of getting something off my chest that has been buggin me more and more of late. Thanks for piping in and not slamming me, as much as a whine as it was, I was an easy target.
Rolex, I know I can specifically not put you amongst the drones(rooks) I discussed. I remember you being quite vocal as far as sit-reps and fighing goes, TY.
Furious, I should have listed you up top. I love being around your la5. Do you remember that fight we had on the wavetops a couple/few weeks ago? You and I were trying to get home, had just killed a couple of guys when a Yak, and La7 showed up. Man, that was fun stuff.
Shane, I do enjoy switching sides now and then for the sake of killing those that suck.
Morph, you're right about my sqaud. I have seen Coors once in the last 3 months, Nuke even less. Interest waxes and wanes, they are in the "wane" phase. I will be disbanding the Rat Bastards when I log on tonight.
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2. I'll give up alt to come in to help someone trailing 3 or 4 bogies. I try to at least get them to pull off by not going after the trailing guy. I try to come in from a front-quarter angle so they all see me as I try to throw a little lead into each to make them disengage. I'm left with a 3/4 v 1 while the rook in trouble flys off home undamaged without so much as a thanks.
Sadly this happens. It may not be intentional but it does. I try to help the ones that can be helped and try even harder to not get myself in a bind for clearing the guy.
3. Some rooks are great about check 6's, some don't know how, but the worst are the ones who intentionally don't give them because they don't want you to maneuver and ruin the perfect shot they have on the target-fixated guy about to blindside you.
A check 6 is a gift. I always try to give them but if i can't get to the button while im fighting, dont expect to get one. For this reason I use VOX. Its much easier to yell out to someone than to hit a button while looking in the direction of the friendly and hope he gets it. I never get upset over a check 6 or lack of getting one because if i die its going to be due to my own lack of Poor SA that got me killed in the first place. Although I will say being used as bait and not knowing it is a real drag. No pun intended.
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SYSTEM: Steve landed 10 Kills in a P-51D of Army Of Muppets? :D
LOL
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
SYSTEM: Steve landed 37 Kills in a P-51D of SlobberDonkeys Beware!? :D
LOL
works for me!! great idea!!
:p :rofl :aok
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If the rooks do suck now, it's because all of the ol' dogs have gone to AH2. AH2 had about 30 highly skilled rooks in the arena last last night. Meaning the main arena Rooks lost 10-20% of their total fighting force and probably 50% of their "skilled" pilots.
Why are you still playing AH1?
g00b
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Check six issue happens with each country like Shane said.
I wish the MOTD gave a quick hint to check 6 sometimes.
I logged last night over check 6 issues I Dive in giving 5 check6s in a minute , start clearing nit 6's, only to see a congo line behind me and no nits giving a check 6 back from nits I saved. grrr
So I loaded Red Orchestra and shot me some Jerrys.
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LOL Shane:D
g00b last night was lots of fun. We had a great furball going on in there. Mass confusion mixxed with the occasional great 1v1 fights. Good stuff all around.
Hell we even had shane talking smack or trying to! LOL Shane...
Yeah, you know its getting close to completion when ya see Shane in there smack talking calling others "Lamer Gangers"!LMAO Shane!
I think i saw him trying to hump my ankle at one point tho. :D :p
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Steve you want to take that ego outside and deflate it some
wipass
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Hey
JG2 pretty much all fly 109s and 190s. I mean ya sure we take a brake from em but most guys in the squad will choose german iron 1st. We rank ok month in month out IMHO:D
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Originally posted by wipass
Steve you want to take that ego outside and deflate it some
wipass
:rolleyes:
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maybe yours could do with some deflating too
wipass
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Originally posted by wipass
maybe yours could do with some deflating too
wipass
Wayne, you hooked Morph, but Steve got away. If you want to hook Steve, you have to use the G-word - Gottawin! :lol
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Steve....
you know which team we are on....would be a pleasure flyin with you again....and I'm sure other Hornets would like that too.....you'd be most welcomed
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Thanks Slo, that's really nice of you and the Hornets. I appreciate your compassion, especially considering how whiny my original post is.
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Wipass, Thanks for taking the time to voice your view.
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Originally posted by Steve
Thanks Slo, that's really nice of you and the Hornets. I appreciate your compassion, especially considering how whiny my original post is.
I don't like the fact that you don't enjoy this wonderful game we have...thats a shame
my squaddies make it fun for me when I feel the same as you...usually we'll do something stupid like capture a base using only p40's:rofl
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I dunno,
I use to be a rook and their are some great guys over there. On the other hand i was just in AH2 lol and every rook i ran into just wanted to HO. Im not complain'n but seems like somethings have changed over there?:eek:
Either way, no big deal and S! to those awesome ACM. :aok
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Haha SLo P40s are so much fun man!
The other day we were winging in P40s near the dreded A44:eek: For a while it was XJ and myself there in slow P40s! I went to rope a zeek and he climbed right up to me like i was flying in reverse! lol Thank god for luck tho, I managed to get out of that. It was a great flight though, and I broke my record for most kills in that thing with no rearms.
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Originally posted by wipass
maybe yours could do with some deflating too
wipass
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Originally posted by Steve
I too lost my sanity tonight. Urchin I think you were there to witness it. Granted I've only been here 18 months or so but I have never seen such poor players on the rook team. With the obvious exceptions, rooks are just plain awful... I'm talking REALLY bad.
They think drag has something to do w/ how they dress on the weekends. They think rope is something they bring on their dates while dressed in drag. They think setup is a blind date that they can tie up with their ropes while dressed in drag.
I'm not talking about noobs. The run of the mill rook just doesn't have a clue about working together......nothing. I remember that, while I believed all sides had some good pilots, rooks were the better bunch overall. IMHO. No more. I am belabouring the point but they are just...... terrible.
3 and the final, examples:
I dragged Bloodnut's F4U past the noses of 4 rooks tonight, 3 of the names I recognized as having been around for a while. Not one of them had the sense to drop on his 6, even after I gave them an angle. To a man, with the exception of one guy, who sort of just wandered off, they all went for the HO, leaving me stuck w/ Bloodnut spraying like mad at 700, as I had started him in a gentle climb to set him.
#2
A rook pony was fighting a nik. Both of these planes were right over me. I was just close enough to worry the nik. The nik reverses down to HO me, leaving a perfect shot opportunity for the high rook pony, my teammate. I watch as the nik slowy goes over the top, a cherry to be plucked from the sky for my high teammate. To my horror, my teammate literally wanders off aimlessly. End result, I'm Ho'd by the nik.
The reason my high teammate meandered off: He was adjusting the gamma setting on his monitor. Forget the gamey tardness of this. He actually decided to do this in the middle of that fight.
Rooks have become so lax at giving check 6's that I don't give them anymore either. In fact, to prevent myself from an old habit, I deleted my check 6 button.
Anyway, since Stang and my muppet friends aren't always on, I'm done w/ rooks. Right now I just don't think I could stand another flight with these idiots without punching my fist thru my monitor.
Well, Steve, don't include me in that gross generalization. I actually enjoy flying around you cause you are such great bait. I know you've roped plenty for me in the past. Keep on setting 'em up if you see me around, it won't be wasted...I promise :aok
Zazen
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Zazen, I like a good setup more than a kill. Somehow it always gets me snickering.
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Originally posted by Rolex
I think it's this new generation... I remember the old days when we used to have to get up at 4AM and chop wood before we flew our planes through 100 miles of snow... :)
.......with a cold bisquit for lunch and have to walk barefoot to the hangar. :D
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"30 highly skilled rooks in the arena last last night. " LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. err...yea...and Steve is a punk get off his nut***k Morph :P
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Steve is a punk
Thanks Jaxxo.
Morph, who the heck is Jaxxo?
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Well Jaxxo is...
King SuX0r of the highest caliber.
A dw33b in every sense of the word.
And someone I think I can call... God this hurts...
A Fr..ien... (ahhh the agony!!!)d... Friend.:D
I think we've just witnessed Jaxxo trying to be funny. Jaxxo, let me put it to you simply.
stfuyoudweebmother:D
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Well is it the same Jaxxo as in the MA?
I didn't know Jaxxo felt this way about me.....thought we were civil.
ahhh well, live and learn. :)
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cc its the same Jaxxo. The same old Dw33b Jaxxo:D
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Steve, Pizza in the MA.
WooT WooT!
:rolleyes: :( :mad:
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Originally posted by kamori
STEVE.........Grow Up.......You have been told for years from fellow squaddies you need too Grow Up.
You get yourself in impossible situations then call for help and when non squaddies dont help or are unwilling to die with you you cry they sk.....I think a GOOD pilot would not get themselves in that situation in the first place.
Please make the attitude change or go away.
We are sick and tired of your whining....
Dont let the door hit you in the prettythang when you go.
Please go away....
Kalamori
I've been in squads with Steve since AW, and no one that I can recall has told him to grow up. And Steve is one DAMN good pilot with SA and tactics very few can match. He is amazing at this game and is very smart. This is probably why he gets frustrated sometimes....because things that are so obvious to him in a fight , others just don't understand and most will never "get".
Hey Steve, did you disband our "squad" ?
Hey Steve, I wouldn't expect you to keep the squad going with just you flying...not fair and not fun. You should be able to have your pic of great squads and great people to fly with.
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you know something,
this is such a brown nose thread, your ace, oh look at me, i think your ace, wow you rank so high, oh look at my rolling eyes how cool am I ?:rolleyes:
I am a great virtual er er er nobody, ah but I can rank top (fill in a number between 1 and er er 20)
hey, come join my squad i have no life either, lets both have er er no life
I starred in the maTrRriX (use upper case for effect) look at me I am so cool
and hey guys, if anyone can't see how good we are, lets all roll eyes :rolleyes:
bananas
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Wow wipass, you really have lost it. Maybe you are among Teh Suck and you know it. Maybe you are just intellectually aware enough to realize you are Teh Suck and you hate yourself for it.... maybe. Then again, maybe you just don't get enough attention.
Crumb, TY for the kind words. I'm tryin the muppets on for size, they were the first to invite me and it's been fun so far. :)
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Man, I`m really starting to like this woopass cat. Get some woop. :D
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Poor guy. It looks like he has a huge identity problem. :confused:
There are help groups for this kind of thing are there not?
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The 81st is a rook squad, and those of us that can run AH2 have already relocated there to practice tactics and jabo missions. So when AH@ comes live, we will be ready.
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Wipass can handle hissself quite well thank you.
Comes from an old family that has branched out on they're own when the home was no longer a place to play.
:)
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Wipass can handle hissself quite well thank you. blah blah blah
uhhh ok