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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: MetaTron on May 26, 2004, 09:08:40 PM
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CVs have become the wet, lather, rinse, repeat of the game.
Remove them at once as the useless aspects they are!
Let's have a vote!:D
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no
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weak troll!
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The "Capture" thing needs to go also....
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Where did you guys pick up this bait?
The worms are rotten, the minnows are dead, and the spinner bait is old and rusty.
Time for some new equipment.:aok
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Gotta say, I think the LTAR's hit the nail on the head, let's just get rid of all facets of aeriel warfare and ground pound...Yeah!, that's the ticket!
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All I have to say is this...
(http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v156/ststang2/shim.gif)
neener neener neener you can't catch me!
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This thread confirms it! Morpheus is only here to OWN the bbs.
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I'm with Morpheus on this one.
Metatron obviously has been parked in the sun to long, frying his brains & his bait as well.
CV furballs can be some of the best flying AH or AHII have to offer.
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scorpion toxin can take years to act.
lazs
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Originally posted by MetaTron
CVs have become the wet, lather, rinse, repeat of the game.
Remove them at once as the useless aspects they are!
Let's have a vote!:D
How about this. Why don't you design and program a NEW game and solicit funds for it here?
Wait a minute.....
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Icer, you would be looking for Voss. He flies for Rooks these days and owns the rank charts. Look him up.
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Originally posted by lazs2
scorpion toxin can take years to act.
lazs
LOL! :)
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Icer, you would be looking for Voss. He flies for Rooks these days and owns the rank charts. Look him up.
So if you 2 are not one in the same---how does Voss stand in your books.
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Remove them at once as the useless aspects they are!
Are you trying to kill Tatertot? :D
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Tatertot has removed your CV's!!!!
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lol cant stop laughing!!!!!!!!
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CV"s are fine. Just the 20 mile AI AAA is a bit much IMO.
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Icer, you would be looking for Voss. He flies for Rooks these days and owns the rank charts. Look him up.
..I hear he's a GOD !!
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CV warfare will be very much changed in AH2. The CV is now vulnerable, and it can be neutralized without the CV itself having to be sunk.
I've tried an experimental attack on the CV with some of my squaddies in AH2 - lifted up with heavy fighters, didn't grab much alt - but we jumped it an once and neutralized most of the ackfire on the escort ships. And then, finally, strafed the CV dead and vulched planes taking off from it. Upped with about 5 fellow planes, lost two to ackfire. Rest of the planes sustained heavy damages but survived.
So in the future, don't think that mobile ack platforms will protect you. Park it 5 miles off the base, and a horde of suicidal noobs gonna render the CV useless.
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I think CV's are a blast!...I wish there were more of em on all maps..And for AH2 they have been improved as well.:)
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loin.. I don't know how much they have been improved... the real improvement is that the kiddies and spoilers aren't on yet or can't hide in the horde... people are leaving the CV's alone for good fights... That should change when the losers get on.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
loin.. I don't know how much they have been improved... the real improvement is that the kiddies and spoilers aren't on yet or can't hide in the horde... people are leaving the CV's alone for good fights... That should change when the losers get on.
lazs
You're certainly right about that... Of course things will only return to status quo when AH2 goes online.
Nonetheless, I absolutely enjoy CVs and the great fights they generate.
My regards,
Widewing
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as do I.
lazs
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Originally posted by Widewing
You're certainly right about that... Of course things will only return to status quo when AH2 goes online.
While there is certainly some truth to this, I maintain some hope that things will be improved. For evidence of this, Pyro mentioned a limitation on fuel porking that will help me out (Yak flyer) so hopefully some additional considerations will be instituted as well.
I mean, I'm sure there will always be porkers (and with destroyable guns the CVs is harder to defend) but hopefully there is something in the works to counter-balance this.
Then again, I'm just a pollyanna fanboi optimist, what do I know :p
-Sik
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Originally posted by Icer
How about this. Why don't you design and program a NEW game and solicit funds for it here?
Wait a minute.....
:rofl
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I get it, lets remove, one at a time, every single aspect of the game that encourages any kind of player to player combat and any kind of fun. If you wanna blow stuff up without a fight, do it offline. Sheesh.
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AH2 is already otw Stang LOL
No Ch1.
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Mojo hit the nail smack on the head. You can have the CVs but the captures go as well.
I like that idea then people will actually have to fight each other, what a novel concept lolh:D
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Naa... how about "remove the high value country jumpers that have no problem feeling like they pwn the game".
T.
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Who ya reffering to Tumor.. Stang? Because he makes a valid point:D. That makes him trying to "pwn" ehh?Too funny.
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no
i like the different avenues there are in the game and limiting or takeing away anything this game has would certainly make it a little boring
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I've tried an experimental attack on the CV with some of my squaddies in AH2 - lifted up with heavy fighters, didn't grab much alt - but we jumped it an once and neutralized most of the ackfire on the escort ships. And then, finally, strafed the CV dead and vulched planes taking off from it. Upped with about 5 fellow planes, lost two to ackfire. Rest of the planes sustained heavy damages but survived.
When 5 planes can destroy a carrier and it's escorts with the lose of two of its aircraft then things are not right.
The carriers in AH and AHII are being used exactly as they should. To bring an enemy airfield within striking distance. The accuracy and amount of fire should stay the same as in AH1, but with the ability to destroy gun emplacements, fuel supplies and ordnance. How many enemy aircraft did it take to destroy a carrier? 1 with a well-placed bomb on an American carriers wooden deck. But getting that one bomb there was the problem.
I was attacking from a carrier the other night and two P-38s took down the carrier. With that weak a defense, there virtually is no carrier fleet.
Gotta say, I think the LTAR's hit the nail on the head, let's just get rid of all facets of aeriel warfare and ground pound...Yeah!, that's the ticket!
I don't recall any LTARs saying anything of the sort. I have heard some members remind flyboys that this game isn't strictly for airplanes. This is usually after someone gets dusted out of the sky by a 37mm round in the kisser and complains about GVs. I for one greatly enjoy carrier battles. I would like to see more as a matter of fact. But remember this, aircraft are just a tool to make it safer for ground forces to capture territory. Even the C-47 is only a delivery tool for ground forces. The more planes in the air the better. Gives me more to shoot at. But please don't belittle ground units or naval units just because they aren't your cup of tea.
Aces Highs' strength lies in its diversity and the diversity of its players.
LTARsqrl
:aok
P.S. And MoRphEuS, Can I dance or can't I. I didn't even see you take my picture at that party. :rofl
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I think we should buff up the 5in by removing the explosive, time fused,and RF shells, And put rabid scorpion fused shells in.
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diversity is one thing but all late war all the time and fighters being forced to play with toolshed killers and silly GV drivers is quite another.
lazs
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LOL so many Shades on the BB now its not even funny:lol :rofl :aok
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Lazs2, you must have been one that took a 37mm in the kisser.
Name calling aside, GVs and Carriers are a part of the game. HT has done an outstanding job in creating a game that appeals to a lot of people.
forced to play with toolshed killers and silly GV drivers
No one is "forcing" you to play. But hey, if Arcade flying a couple of airplanes is your thing, you should try Playstation or Nintendo. But I like aviation, naval and ground based battles this game has to offer.
My opinion without channel 1 BS involved. Enough said.
LTARsqrl
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yeah while we're at it lets get rid of all the planes and tanks too.
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Originally posted by lazs2
as do I.
lazs
Well, from what I saw today things are already status quo. I logged into the beta and promptly found a CV in the midst of a red horde.
I took up an FM-2 and after nearly emptying my guns, landed 6 kills, including 3 Tempests and a Spit14. LOLOLOLOL
Just as I caught a wire I spot low buffs inbound. So, I gabbed a turret and shot down 7 bombers and fighters including 3 AR 234s.
Unfortunately for us, HTC has the precision bombsight in place (from the pre-calibration days) and as those of us who were here then remember, that bombsight rarely misses. Eventually the already burning CV went down from one suicide run after another.
Naturally, a great furball ended with the CV sinking. Most enemy were in perk planes, and few displayed even basic ability.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by MetaTron
CVs have become the wet, lather, rinse, repeat of the game.
Remove them at once as the useless aspects they are!
Let's have a vote!:D
Request denied.....move along nothing to see here move along
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ltard squirrel.. how is the combat flight sim part of AH like ninetendo? I have never used a nintendo but arent the fm's really simple and only one or two guys can play... Would seem that the extremely simplistic "blowing up toolsheds" and driving around in simplified and gamey GV's in order to "win" (LOL) the war would be more of a nintendo type of thing... most of the stuff yu do could be done on a gameboy with no humans involved.
lazs
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Lazs,
Let me make this simple. If you don't like the mix of the game, no one is forcing you to play. "Combat flight sim", no, Combat sim, yes.
"High fidelity air combat is the heart of
Aces High, but it doesn't end there. In addition to
flying a multitude of aircraft types, players can
also man vehicles, boats, amphibs, gun batteries,
and ships. It's the most diverse virtual arsenal
available to players in this genre and it's constantly
growing through frequent updates. In the air, on
land, and at sea, the battle rages 24 hours a day
with participants from around the world."
Carriers are part of this game and should be left in. GVs are part of this game and should be left in. Aircraft are a part of this game and should be left in.
As far as the Nintendo/Playstation stuff is concerned, I gathered from your post that you didn't think these other facets of AH/AHII should be in this game, and that it should be just a couple of planes dueling it out. Well then this game will disappoint you. It is much more. And my hat is off to Hitech for creating it.
Now, the way I see it is this, you can compliment HT for the fine job they are doing, or complain some more. Either way, .
As for the "ltard" comment, thank you. It means that I, or one of my Squad Mates, must have blasted you out of the air enough to really make an impression. OH, is that why you don't like GVs? :rofl I get it.
LTARsqrl
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I like the carriers ltard.
I don't like the gamey suicide fluffers and kamikazi's that hit it.
And no... I don't want a "couple" of planes dueling it out I want masses of planes dueling it out all virtualy flown by real people.
I believe, like most folk, that the GV's and fluffs are the gamiest feature of the sim and are the refuge of those who can't seem to work a j stick. That is fine... everyone needs to feel "special".. I just don't want em to get in my way..
oh, and I have never heard of you or any of your squadmates.. but... yes the ltard is a compliment. I am big on compliments to those who deserve em.
lazs
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I take back my original statements as I have come to a different feeling with the past week.
I agree that CVs should be gone. Even more so in AH2. I think that we should only be able to fly how others feel. Who are the "others" you ask? I think you know.
I also think that all voice comm should be done away with so as to not "bother" those who are trying to get their "job" done.
You must also have to ask permision to speak on country channel 2. There is far too much chatter going on to be able to sort through it all and tell what is "important" and what is BS.
I've seen a trend developing throughout the past week or so. I am not one who likes to take "baby steps". I think we should take care of this stuff. Nip these problems in the bud. Its time for a newer, more refined Aces High. I beleive these steps will help us more rapidly reach the goals of these "others".
:aok
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Personally, I would like to see the game modified to allow task forces to contain two or even three or more carriers. That would make the fights around them even more realistic, and prevent suiciders from ending some great aerial scraps prematurely.
Your thoughts?
Regards, Shuckins/Leggern
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
weak troll!
He looked at the bait.
Originally posted by MoRphEuS
Where did you guys pick up this bait?
The worms are rotten, the minnows are dead, and the spinner bait is old and rusty.
Time for some new equipment.:aok
While hes not really in feeding mode. He is nibbling. :)
Maybe we can trigger a territorial strike?
Originally posted by MoRphEuS
All I have to say is this...
neener neener neener you can't catch me!
Hmm hes a fussy lil fishy. And crafty too.
Originally posted by MoRphEuS
AH2 is already otw Stang LOL
No Ch1.
Hmmmm must be "Catfish Hunter" scoffing at the bait.
Originally posted by MoRphEuS
LOL so many Shades on the BB now its not even funny:lol :rofl :aok
Were not giving up. we will catch this trophy.
Originally posted by MoRphEuS
I take back my original statements as I have come to a different feeling with the past week.
I agree that CVs should be gone. Even more so in AH2. I think that we should only be able to fly how others feel. Who are the "others" you ask? I think you know.
I also think that all voice comm should be done away with so as to not "bother" those who are trying to get their "job" done.
You must also have to ask permision to speak on country channel 2. There is far too much chatter going on to be able to sort through it all and tell what is "important" and what is BS.
I've seen a trend developing throughout the past week or so. I am not one who likes to take "baby steps". I think we should take care of this stuff. Nip these problems in the bud. Its time for a newer, more refined Aces High. I beleive these steps will help us more rapidly reach the goals of these "others".
:aok
WoooooHoooooo We caught a Pig!!! Dang hes stripping the drag like theres no tommarro!!!!
:eek: Yeehaawwww... "Easy...dont horse eem boy, youll lose eeem!!!"
:D.. I Love fishing. ;)
Just having some monday fun.
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Impressive:aok
What can I say?
With Pizza up.
And everyone feeling the need to change the game to taylor and suit their "idea" of what Aces High (2) should be. I just figured I'd put in my 3 cents. ;) Yeah 3 cents does it.
I couldnt just let this bait hang there while others were doing little to tend to it. It was already spoiled, but the smell was more than I could stand.
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
Impressive:aok
What can I say?
With Pizza up.
And everyone feeling the need to change the game to taylor and suit their "idea" of what Aces High (2) should be. I just figured I'd put in my 3 cents. ;) Yeah 3 cents does it.
I couldnt just let this bait hang there while others were doing little to tend to it. It was already spoiled, but the smell was more than I could stand.
opportunity knocked. :)
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Sad.
I felt they were all very valid ideas. Ones that would improve the general "on-line experience".
Now more than ever with the game turning the way it is in the direction its going I feel we need to kick it up a notch. Forget about these small baby steps toward change. Lets take a flying leap ;)
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
Sad.
I felt they were all very valid ideas. Ones that would improve the general "on-line experience".
Now more than ever with the game turning the way it is in the direction its going I feel we need to kick it up a notch. Forget about these small baby steps toward change. Lets take a flying leap ;)
Im with ya. With ALL FOUR FEET!
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lol your nuts:lol
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
I take back my original statements as I have come to a different feeling with the past week.
I agree that CVs should be gone. Even more so in AH2. I think that we should only be able to fly how others feel. Who are the "others" you ask? I think you know.
I also think that all voice comm should be done away with so as to not "bother" those who are trying to get their "job" done.
You must also have to ask permision to speak on country channel 2. There is far too much chatter going on to be able to sort through it all and tell what is "important" and what is BS.
I've seen a trend developing throughout the past week or so. I am not one who likes to take "baby steps". I think we should take care of this stuff. Nip these problems in the bud. Its time for a newer, more refined Aces High. I beleive these steps will help us more rapidly reach the goals of these "others".
:aok
Coiuldnt have said it better.But lets add this.Those on "Important" buisness should be able to spew insults and profanity at will with no Muteing.After all.Its "There" game right?We just get in the way of there "Important" buisness.