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Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: midnight Target on May 28, 2004, 10:35:53 AM
I go to Washington DC at least 1x per year and have been watching the progress on this for a while. Can't wait to see it.

WWII vets gather for memorial dedication (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5084663/)

If you haven't been to the Mall in DC the WWII memorial is at the other end of the reflecting pond in front of the Lincoln Memorial. A beautiful spot and very prominant.
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: Dune on May 28, 2004, 11:41:54 AM
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The Veterans Affairs Department estimates World War II vets are dying at a rate of 1,056 a day. The dedication of a memorial decades after its war is not lost on them.
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: midnight Target on June 10, 2004, 05:20:38 PM
I got to visit the completed memorial last Monday. I left a blubbering pansy. People left mementos and medals and pictures near the State markers and in front of the Star Field. It was amazing.
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: Sandman on June 10, 2004, 05:29:32 PM
Will have to take a look next time I'm in DC.


My favorite is the Korean War Memorial. Every time I visit it, I see something different that I missed previously.
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: midnight Target on June 10, 2004, 07:39:32 PM
Overall view..
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/94_1086914082_washingtondc2004020.jpg)

The Star Field.. I think each star represents 100 lives lost.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/94_1086914145_washingtondc2004010.jpg)

Just a sample of the mementos people leave...
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/94_1086914174_washingtondc2004016.jpg)
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: Eagler on June 10, 2004, 09:05:24 PM
looks very moving ... thanks for sharing
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: Shuckins on June 10, 2004, 09:09:01 PM
MT,

I second Eagler's motion...thanks for posting this.  Would love to see it someday.

Regards, Shuckins/Legger
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: GRUNHERZ on June 10, 2004, 09:24:22 PM
It looks very beautiful and very moving from the pictures I have seen.

IIRC wasnt there a huge movement in opposition to this memorial tribute? Why on earth?
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: Sandman on June 10, 2004, 11:04:13 PM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
IIRC wasnt there a huge movement in opposition to this memorial tribute? Why on earth?


Location, primarily. All of the war memorials seem to be off to the side of the national mall.
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: storch on June 10, 2004, 11:08:41 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Watching that video of the 82nd Airborne display showing kids in uniform and handling guns I got a distinct Starship Troopers feeling. *lol*


*sniff*  silly euro *swims away*

I totally agree with Eagler MT thanks for posting that.
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: midnight Target on June 11, 2004, 09:02:42 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
It looks very beautiful and very moving from the pictures I have seen.

IIRC wasnt there a huge movement in opposition to this memorial tribute? Why on earth?


Sandman is right. They placed this memorial at the opposite end of the reflecting pond from the Lincoln memorial. The Mall used to be wide open with the Capitol on one end and the Lincoln memorial on the other. The Washington monument was the only structure in the middle. People were concerned that the WWII memorial would break up the esthetics of the Mall. It actually fits in quite well.

One thing that really seems weird. The war on terror will probably help people forget about the loss of the "open Mall". The huge expanse of grass that used to stretch from the Capitol to the Lincoln memorial is going to be a thing of the past anyway. They are now constructing a moat or something around the Washington monument. It used to stand majestically at the top of a grassy hill. I guess they expect a truck bomb or something so now the base will be surrounded and it will be accessible via a bridge.
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: Sandman on June 11, 2004, 09:50:15 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
One thing that really seems weird. The war on terror will probably help people forget about the loss of the "open Mall". The huge expanse of grass that used to stretch from the Capitol to the Lincoln memorial is going to be a thing of the past anyway. They are now constructing a moat or something around the Washington monument. It used to stand majestically at the top of a grassy hill. I guess they expect a truck bomb or something so now the base will be surrounded and it will be accessible via a bridge.


I won't forget. Bastards can't seem to leave well enough alone.
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: GRUNHERZ on June 11, 2004, 10:37:20 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman
I won't forget. Bastards can't seem to leave well enough alone.


With all due respect, all was "well" on September 10th, 2001...

So your words are incorrect. However, do remember, it's easy enough to fill a ditch when the time comes...
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: storch on June 11, 2004, 10:41:18 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman
I won't forget. Bastards can't seem to leave well enough alone.


The classic liberal stance and response.  when they were in power they did all they could to undermine our security.  When the proper and prudent steps are taken to reasonably secure anything the whinefest commences.

Liberals!
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: midnight Target on June 11, 2004, 10:43:11 AM
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Originally posted by storch
The classic liberal stance and response.  when they were in power they did all they could to undermine our security.  When the proper and prudent steps are taken to reasonably secure anything the whinefest commences.

Liberals!


Classic fascist response to calls for liberty. You go Storch!
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: TheDudeDVant on June 11, 2004, 10:46:40 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
With all due respect, all was "well" on September 10th, 2001...

So your words are incorrect. However, do remember, it's easy enough to fill a ditch when the time comes...



perhaps all was 'well' with you..... obviously not with others..
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: Shuckins on June 11, 2004, 10:48:17 AM
Who'd be crying the loudest if it was blow up and hundreds of people killed?
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: storch on June 11, 2004, 10:54:42 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Classic fascist response to calls for liberty. You go Storch!


The problem stems from a fundamental flaw in liberal thinking, you liberals tend to confuse liberty with libertinism.  My liberties haven't been affected in any noticable form.  While I do harbor reservations with the "Patriot Act" I believe that safeguarding our structures and institutions is prudent.  And as Grun stated in the unlikely event that terrorism is greatly reduced the moat will be easy enough to refill and resod.
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: midnight Target on June 11, 2004, 11:14:38 AM
OK, I admit the fascist line was a little over the top, but I get so sick and tired of the labelous (not libelous) BS in here. This Country needs Liberals as much as it needs Conservatives... maybe more. Sure liberalism is sometimes overzealous in its application. Sure liberalism chooses the least common denominator to provide its points at times. The reason is, that if we don't who will? I think of Libs as the Jiminy Cricket of the political spectrum. You know we're right. You just don't think we're necessary.

 (http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/chars/pics/jiminy.gif)
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: storch on June 11, 2004, 11:16:34 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
OK, I admit the fascist line was a little over the top, but I get so sick and tired of the labelous (not libelous) BS in here. This Country needs Liberals as much as it needs Conservatives... maybe more. Sure liberalism is sometimes overzealous in its application. Sure liberalism chooses the least common denominator to provide its points at times. The reason is, that if we don't who will? I think of Libs as the Jiminy Cricket of the political spectrum. You know we're right. You just don't think we're necessary.

 (http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/chars/pics/jiminy.gif)


Oh no, the balance argument!
Title: WWII Memorial
Post by: midnight Target on June 11, 2004, 11:17:30 AM
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Originally posted by storch
Oh no, the balance argument!


Oh no... another label. Thanks for making my point.