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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Red Tail 444 on May 28, 2004, 04:37:31 PM
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Sending Old Men To War..and not a troll (no need to look for a hook onthis one, fellas...LOL)
If I could, I'd enlist today and help my country track down those responsible for killing thousands of innocent people in New York City and Washington, DC But, I'm over 50 now and the Armed Forces say I'm too old to track down terrorists. You can't be older than 35 to join the military. They've got the whole thing backwards. Instead of sending 18-year-olds off to fight, they ought to take us old guys. You shouldn't be able to join until you're at least 35. For starters: Researchers say 18-year-olds think about sex every 10 seconds. Old guys only
think about sex a couple of times a day, leaving us more that 28,000 additional seconds per day to concentrate on the enemy.
Young guys haven't lived long enough to be cranky, and a crankysoldier is a dangerous soldier. If we can't kill the enemy we'll complain them into submission. "My back hurts!" "I'm hungry!" "Where's the remote control?"
An 18-year-old hasn't had a legal beer yet and you shouldn't go to war until you're at least old enough to legally drink. An average old guy, on the other hand, has consumed 126,000 gallons of beer by the time he's 35 and a jaunt through the desert heat with a backpack and M-60 would do wonders for the old beer belly.
An 18-year-old doesn't like to get up before 10 a.m. Old guys get up early every morning to pee.
If old guys are captured we couldn't spill the beans because we'd probably forget where we put them. In fact, name, rank, and serial number would be a real brainteaser.
Boot camp would actually be easier for old guys. We're used to getting screamed and yelled at and we actually like soft food. We've also developed a deep appreciation for guns and rifles. We like them almost better than naps.
They could lighten up on the obstacle course however. I've been in combat and didn't see a single 20-foot wall with rope hanging over the side, nor did I ever do any pushups after completing basic training. I can hear the Drill Sergeant now, "Get down and give me...er...one." And the running part is kind of a waste of energy. I've never seen anyone outrun a bullet. An 18-year-old has the whole world ahead of him.
He's still learning to shave, to actually carry on a conversation, and to wear pants without the top of his butt crack showing and his boxer shorts sticking out. He's still hasn't figured out that a pierced tongue catches food particles, and that a 400-watt speaker in the back seat of a Honda Accord can rupture an eardrum.
(Thats one for Lazs...)
All great reasons to keep our sons at home to learn a little more about life before sending them off to possible death.
Let us old guys track down those dirty rotten cowards who attacked our hearts on September 11. The last thing the enemy would want to see right nowis a couple of million old farts with attitudes. Share this with your senior friends (It's purposely in big type for us old guys...)
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Oh yeah... "if you make me get up off this easy chair I'm gonna kick your ass" kinda thing... :)
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Excellent post. 5 stars *****
I'd be there tomorrow. Pulling the trigger on an Abrams ain't no different than the M60A3 I had....20 years ago.
Whew...has it been that long?
I need a beer.
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Originally posted by Blooz
Excellent post. 5 stars *****
I'd be there tomorrow. Pulling the trigger on an Abrams ain't no different than the M60A3 I had....20 years ago.
Whew...has it been that long?
I need a beer.
Hey Blooz,
What is the recoil hydraulic level indicator tape code for a M60 series? See if you really do remember the 3 indicators.... ;)
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how many of you geezers remember last week?:p :p :p
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Originally posted by Pooh21
how many of you geezers remember last week?:p :p :p
say again?
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Heck ya, Count me in!
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problem is.... old guys question authority. Most of us have positions that require decision making and leading not following. In some cases you may get older guys to sacrafice more willingly but they will not obey what they consider stupid orders. The military is too full of stupid orders for it to work.
lazs
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M60A3 hydraulic indications (there are 4 not 3)
Double notches=way too much (stop firing, way too hot)
Double smooth=too much (too hot, watch for notches while firing)
Smooth/Sawtooth=just right
Double sawtooth =too little(too cold)
Can't remember the recoil fluid name (we called it "cherry juice" on account of its red color)
Can't remember the amount in the resevoir (I'm thinking 2.5 quarts?)
Why do you call them grunts?
Thats the sound they make when run over by tanks!
Gunner! SABOT! TANK!
Identified! Lazing!
Fire!
On The WAAAYYYYY!
BOOM!
Target! Cease Fire!
Man those were the days....
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Originally posted by lazs2
problem is.... old guys question authority. Most of us have positions that require decision making and leading not following. In some cases you may get older guys to sacrafice more willingly but they will not obey what they consider stupid orders. The military is too full of stupid orders for it to work.
lazs
That was my problem when I was a not so old guy. My most often ask question was huh? now chief, please explain why this is so important. My Cheif was about 36 at the time, the poor guy.
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really old people would make great tank drivers, their hearing is already gone and if they can't hit the target, they can at least run down crowds of people in it.
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I'm not joking when I say that I agree thought cause of different reasons than original poster.
I believe that most of that crap which recently happened in Iraq could been avoided if the guys serving there were older and more experienced about life itself.
Sometimes it's bad idea to give a young guy authority and power he hasn't earned.
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Originally posted by Blooz
M60A3 hydraulic indications (there are 4 not 3)
Double notches=way too much (stop firing, way too hot)
Double smooth=too much (too hot, watch for notches while firing)
Smooth/Sawtooth=just right
Double sawtooth =too little(too cold)
Can't remember the recoil fluid name (we called it "cherry juice" on account of its red color)
Can't remember the amount in the resevoir (I'm thinking 2.5 quarts?)
Why do you call them grunts?
Thats the sound they make when run over by tanks!
Gunner! SABOT! TANK!
Identified! Lazing!
Fire!
On The WAAAYYYYY!
BOOM!
Target! Cease Fire!
Man those were the days....
The grunts were crunchies or mobile track lube.
The tape was:
rough rough not enough
Smooth smooth drain the tube (when cold or ok if hot)
rough smooth in the groove
Only us crusty old tankers know this stuff.
Remember the "flight of geese" main gun sight??? That was a hell of a range finder wasn't it?
Glad to see another tread head here. :aok
Mav
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you mean like placing 18 year old pilots with 100 hours TT in P51s and sending them in harms way for the benefit of our euro cousins? It's memorial day weekend here in the United States, please give this type of post a break until Tuesday. Thanks in advance for your courtesy and consideration. Now if you want to start a flame post on me then by all means have at it.
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Originally posted by lazs2
problem is.... old guys question authority. Most of us have positions that require decision making and leading not following. In some cases you may get older guys to sacrafice more willingly but they will not obey what they consider stupid orders. The military is too full of stupid orders for it to work.
lazs [/QUOTE
LAzs and I agree............
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I say let us AH guys be the predator pilots :)
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'Flight of geese" sight? Never heard it called that. I'm thinking you are refering to the 105D sight (far left side, manual clip on filters, big switch underneath to change from AP to HEAT/HEP reticle? I used that one alot at Ft. Irwin as they didn't allow us to use our laser rangefinders (something about blindness risk of the OPFOR...)
I liked TTS (Tank Thermal Sight) the best. Used it night and day all the time.
My favorite tasks were cleaning the bore evacuator after gunnery (What a stinking mess!) and of course changing track (at Ft. Stewart we had to assemble two whole new tracks from individual links...no wonder I can't stand up staight anymore...lol)
You can tell old tankers by their smell. They smell like wet paint, diesel fuel and boiling car batteries all mixed together.
I'm getting dizzy just thinking about it...
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Agreed!
Originally posted by NUKE
I say let us AH guys be the predator pilots :)
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Originally posted by Blooz
'Flight of geese" sight? Never heard it called that. I'm thinking you are refering to the 105D sight (far left side, manual clip on filters, big switch underneath to change from AP to HEAT/HEP reticle? I used that one alot at Ft. Irwin as they didn't allow us to use our laser rangefinders (something about blindness risk of the OPFOR...)
I liked TTS (Tank Thermal Sight) the best. Used it night and day all the time.
My favorite tasks were cleaning the bore evacuator after gunnery (What a stinking mess!) and of course changing track (at Ft. Stewart we had to assemble two whole new tracks from individual links...no wonder I can't stand up staight anymore...lol)
You can tell old tankers by their smell. They smell like wet paint, diesel fuel and boiling car batteries all mixed together.
I'm getting dizzy just thinking about it...
Flight of geese sight is the one on the old M48. I have been in them. :)
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I think I qual as one of the old guys that are spoke of in this thread, I'm also active duty, I leave again for Iraq in July.
Not that I really want to leave my family, but I have to go, I'm just following orders that say go.
And when the order comes to return, I'll tally up my kills, and thank God that I'm alive to do so.
And I promise everybody that I'll do my best to bring the young guys back home too. So they can tally up their kills, and thank God they're alive to do so.
I will also train any young guy that wants to be trained, and with luck, I'll send back a few guys that have experience enough to fight a war and come home alive
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Yeah,
I like your style SB.
Fine American.
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Originally posted by sb1086
I think I qual as one of the old guys that are spoke of in this thread, I'm also active duty, I leave again for Iraq in July.
Not that I really want to leave my family, but I have to go, I'm just following orders that say go.
And when the order comes to return, I'll tally up my kills, and thank God that I'm alive to do so.
And I promise everybody that I'll do my best to bring the young guys back home too. So they can tally up their kills, and thank God they're alive to do so.
I will also train any young guy that wants to be trained, and with luck, I'll send back a few guys that have experience enough to fight a war and come home alive
God bless you and people like you.
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SB1086,
Thanks for serving and being a leader to look out for the younger troops. Keep your head down and bring yourself back too!
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Originally posted by storch
That was my problem when I was a not so old guy. My most often ask question was huh? now chief, please explain why this is so important. My Cheif was about 36 at the time, the poor guy.
Question our leaders now, and you'll be branded as some lefty pinko commie woman liberal (or maybe thats only limited to posts on this BBs) :rolleyes:
sb...good luck!:aok
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My attitude hasn't changed much over the years. I have allways distrusted government. Socialist leaning ones are particularly vile and I don't particularly relish putting my life in some new officiers hands..
I was even told that I was mentaly unfit for duty during the conflict in SE asia way back when.
now.. so far as defending the country goes.. I pay taxes so that people who want to get the benifiets of military life will fight for me when called on. Mostly I pay for them to go in and out of the service without ever fireing a gun in anger. They really should read the fine print tho if they think it is simply a benifiet program.
lazs
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No problem Mavrick, I keep my head down all the time, It spins around on a swivel too :)
Redtail I questioned the leaders once, back in Filght school. I questioned why we went to war, i was shown the movie Patton with George C Scott. The part atthe beginning where he stands in front of the Falg addressing the troops explains all my questions :) Now when my troops question me, i show them my favorite movie, Patton, their questions are answered.
Yes I have a hell of a bunch of guys