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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: xrtoronto on May 29, 2004, 11:41:53 AM
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Iraq prison abuse 'widespread'
An American news agency says it has seen official papers suggesting that prisoner abuse in Iraq took place at four sites other than Abu Ghraib.
Evidence of abuse has emerged from a marine camp at Nasiriya and army camps at Baghdad International Airport, Qaim and Samarra, the Associated Press says.
Detainees were allegedly beaten or forced to stand for long periods of time in scorching desert heat.
AP examined court transcripts and investigator interviews.
The abuses allegedly committed at Abu Ghraib, the feared Saddam-era prison now run by coalition forces, outraged the world after a stream of photos apparently taken by guards emerged.
According to the military documents seen by AP, at least two detainees held at other sites died of their injuries.
The allegations concerning military intelligence troops include the following:
At Camp Whitehorse near Nasiriya, guards were allegedly told to prepare prisoners for interrogation by keeping them in hoods in temperatures of up to 49C degrees (120F) for 50 minutes at a time over periods of 10 hours. One Iraqi detainee choked to death.
At a camp near Qaim, interrogators allegedly stuffed an Iraqi general into a sleeping bag, sat on his chest and covered his mouth. Maj Gen Abed Hamed Mowhoush, who had also been questioned by CIA operatives, eventually died.
At a camp near Samarra, prisoners were reportedly choked and beaten and had their hair pulled.
At Camp Cropper, at Baghdad International Airport, prisoners were allegedly beaten and forced to adopt painful positions for hours at a time.
'Guantanamo team'
Two marines are facing charges related to the death at Camp Whitehorse in June 2003 although nobody is charged with actually killing the prisoner.
Military records state the victim, named as Nagem Sadoon Hatab, died when a marine guard grabbed his throat in an attempt to move him, accidentally breaking a bone which cut off his air supply.
The other marine is charged with kicking Mr Hatab in the chest in the hours before his death.
In another development, the New York Times newspaper reports that military interrogators from the Guantanamo detention camp in Cuba played a key role at Abu Ghraib.
The interrogators at Guantanamo, which houses al-Qaeda and Taleban suspects, were sent to Iraq last year by the head of the Cuban prison camp, Gen Geoffrey Miller.
Gen Miller was himself sent to Iraq to recommend improvements in the way prisoners were detained and questioned.
source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3759923.stm)
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"Unfortunately, for some people this board is purely a way for them to verbally abuse people from a country they hate. They don't have an outlet for their bigotry in real life, so they take it out here"
Who's quote?
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It is wide spread!!!! (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/5/26/130918.shtml)
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that "bokbokbokbokbok" sound you hear is the soothing rythmic pulse of self gratification.
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You can scream "America Bashing" all you want. It happened, we got caught doing it and now we have to live with the concequences. Black Eyes take time to heal. Personally, I plan to voice my opinion on Iraq this November.
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This abuse thing is ugly, but the press makes it 10 times worse....
Its just sad. Use it for what its worth, but not more.
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Originally posted by VOR
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Originally posted by rpm371
You can scream "America Bashing" all you want. It happened, we got caught doing it and now we have to live with the concequences. Black Eyes take time to heal. Personally, I plan to voice my opinion on Iraq this November.
I agree but I still won't vote for Kerry simply because his policy would the same with regard to Iraq and his social experimentation in the United States would be detrimental to where I feel the country should be heading.
Kerry is probably related to Mr.Black
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Originally posted by storch
Kerry is probably related to Mr.Black
lol
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Of course it was widespread. If it was just one prison, that would be even stranger.
http://www.prisonexp.org/
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Originally posted by Nilsen
This abuse thing is ugly, but the press makes it 10 times worse....
Its just sad. Use it for what its worth, but not more.
well his point can be something else ....
is it just another act of "very few" soldiers or usual tactic ?
your president and rest of administration were probably missinformed again.... aaaaahhh... what a suriprise, that they will not carry any responsibility
btw... you were much nicer boy on the old picture :D
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Stop it...i changed it once for one of those yanks :D
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Stop it...i changed it once for one of those yanks :D
LOL :)
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(http://www.spymac.com/gallery/pics/smilies/arrow_up.gif ) he is the one :o
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Stop it...i changed it once for one of those yanks :D
im glad you kept white sweater ... its sweet :D
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thank you...it took me forever to pick it out. Had to find ont that mached my eyes :o
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chmmm some northern form of narcissism ? :D
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stop using them difficult words you gd professor :mad:
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whats gd ? :)
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cant swear in here professor :)
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How is reporting the news unamerican rip?