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Title: UBB alternative
Post by: Exile on June 03, 2001, 02:32:00 PM
Heya Ronni,

Have yall considered replacing UBB with another bulletin board? A very popular alternative right now is vBulletin (http://www.vbulletin.com/). It's completely database driven (MySQL and PHP) and has all the features of UBB plus a few more. There is also an import utility that makes moving from UBB easy.

Just a thought.

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Exile
Tard Extraordinaire
SIMLADDER.COM (http://aceshigh.simladder.com/)

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Title: UBB alternative
Post by: Revvin on June 03, 2001, 03:09:00 PM
vBulletin is nice and I was about to purchase it for my squads web-site but the bulletin board I use for No.9 Squadron is Open Source (Free) based on MySQL and PHP like vBulletin but also has stuff like instant messaging built into the board as well as integrated support for many of the online messaging/chat programs such as ICQ, Yahoo Messenger, MSN Messenger and America Online Messenger, it displays when a person is online on ICQ it also has a members list visitirs can look at as well as the facilty for everyone to see when a board user is currently browsing the bulletin board.

One advantage over vBulletin is it uses the same codes as Infopops UBB so users won't get confused between using different codes. Take a look at my bulletin board (http://www.no9squadron.com/phpBB/) as well as Mindmaker's (http://www.gamecommander.com/) forum (http://www.gamecommander.com/phpBB/index.php) (which just goes to show even Sotware Comapnies take it seriously) and for more info visit the creator's web-site (http://www.phpbb.com/) There are many add-ons there to convert databases from UBB and vBulletin and its constantly being updated. For the sheer wealth of features I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a web-site for their squad.

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Title: UBB alternative
Post by: Revvin on June 03, 2001, 03:31:00 PM
I might also add it supports 'themes' which means you can set the board up with different colour schemes and images so that users can choose their own personal style to view the board..imagine it here each user could select a colour scheme to suit their particular choice of aircraft such as an RAF theme or Luftwaffe theme etc etc.
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: LePaul on June 03, 2001, 03:46:00 PM
...or anything that provides an NNTP interface, so you can follow the discussions with your favorite News Reader (Forte, Outlook, etc)?  I'm having a really hard time with UBB pages loading/displaying.

I use WIN Server, which allows not only an HTML interface to read/post messages, but an NNTP one as well.  Check it out at www.santronics.com (http://www.santronics.com)  or www.winserver.com (http://www.winserver.com)


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Paul J. Busiere

Aces High Arena handle:  BD5Pilot
 http://bd5.checksix.net (http://bd5.checksix.net)
BD-5 "T" (TurboProp) 90% complete, first flight in 2001 (We hope!)
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: Fatty on June 03, 2001, 03:58:00 PM
Hey Ex, we're going to BB Rovers to watch the game tonight (NW 183, little past outback I think).  6 PM.

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Title: UBB alternative
Post by: Ronni on June 03, 2001, 05:15:00 PM

Thank you very much, gentlemen, I'll look into it more tomorrow.

Fatty, can I come, too?   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Ronni
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: Seeker on June 03, 2001, 07:21:00 PM
NTTP would be the best, by far. I'd imagine that 90% of the UBB users have either Netscape or Outlook Express installed, it should be extremely easy.
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: SOB on June 03, 2001, 08:22:00 PM
 
Quote
Originally posted by Ronni:

Fatty, can I come, too?    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Ronni

As if you even need to ask!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: Sandman_SBM on June 03, 2001, 09:09:00 PM
I agree... NNTP would be great!

cheers,
sand
 (http://www.screaminbluemessiahs.org/image/signature/sandman.jpg)
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: Fatty on June 03, 2001, 09:53:00 PM
Just don't bring those bums from the office Ronni.  Yankee can come, but the rest we'd rather do without.
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: StSanta on June 04, 2001, 03:57:00 AM
Baaaah

Fancy bloaty unreliable popularistic no good crap technology.

Back to the good old days of usenet, I say, where 100 posts a day can be dropped by yer server.

At least back then a man had his excuses.



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Baron StSanta Von GrossenArsch
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: Lephturn on June 04, 2001, 06:49:00 AM
Let me just say, that I fully support NNTP services, and I think it's downright silly to try to emulate that functionality with a web-based setup.  The other real benefit to going to NNTP would be lower bandwidth.  Running an NNTP server has to be much lower in terms of bandwidth requirements compared to this big picture-laden HTML driven BBS thing.

With straight text messages, it might cut down on some of the bandwidth usage from the BBS.  NNTP has got to be a whole lot less bandwidth than all this graphical web stuff.

Saving more bandwidth for playing the game would be a good thing.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

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Sean "Lephturn" Conrad - Aces High Chief Trainer

A proud member of the mighty Flying Pigs http://www.flyingpigs.com (http://www.flyingpigs.com)

Check out Lephturn's Aerodrome (http://lephturn.webhop.net) for AH articles and training info!

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Title: UBB alternative
Post by: Westy MOL on June 04, 2001, 07:31:00 AM
Here here!!! NNTP ... please

 Westy
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: anRky on June 04, 2001, 08:23:00 AM
Yes! NNTP!  Please!

anRky
-Ih8ubb
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: Greenhorn on June 04, 2001, 02:40:00 PM
The motion has been seconded.

All in favor of NNTP say Aye!

"Aye"
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: LePaul on June 04, 2001, 03:24:00 PM
Wow, so many liked my NNTP Suggestion!  hehe, <checks astrological tables>

If you want to see how WIN Server looks/works, sign in to my site at www.checksix.net (http://www.checksix.net)  and try it out.  Its not inexpensive (WIN Server) but very powerful.  The NNTP addon they just developed (I used a 3rd party's version, which I feel is better at this point) is nice.  The only catch is how many users can be logged in at once (i.e. Node Count).  I have a 12 user license, thought of upping to more, but I've never had a problem with it since upping from 4 to 12.

So, if HTC has questions about it, setup, etc, ask away.  It has a telnet side as well..after all, this is the latest incarnation of Wildcat BBS, if any of you folks were BBSer's in the early/mid 90s!



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Paul J. Busiere

Aces High Arena handle:  BD5Pilot
 http://bd5.checksix.net (http://bd5.checksix.net)
BD-5 "T" (TurboProp) 90% complete, first flight in 2001 (We hope!)
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: MrLars on June 04, 2001, 05:01:00 PM
Another vote for NNTP. I only read this NG at my office on a T1 line....home is dial-up and I don't read here from there with all the pics people include with their signatures.



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Lars
***MOL***
Men Of Leisure
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: lemur on June 04, 2001, 05:35:00 PM
November November Tango Papa!


Please, please, please switch from this BB software to something that supports NNTP!

Waiting 40 seconds for a thread to load only to discover it's filled with posts from the FDBs whining about how small their noodlees (penii? penum? dicks?) are...

Oy.

~Lemur
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: Zigrat on June 04, 2001, 07:12:00 PM
a hardy vote against nntp from me. i like web based boards much better personally.
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: Lephturn on June 05, 2001, 07:33:00 AM
I think some of the suggestions above are for a web-based UBB that has the OPTION of NNTP access.  Correct?

This would keep all of us happy.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Sean "Lephturn" Conrad - Aces High Chief Trainer

A proud member of the mighty Flying Pigs
http://www.flyingpigs.com

Check out Lephturn's Aerodrome (http://lephturn.webhop.net) for AH articles and training info!
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: TK_421 on June 05, 2001, 11:39:00 AM
I don't know how much brainpower and programming talent there is to spare here.  However, I can tell you that running an NNTP capable server is trivial.  I have been running one for a year or more, where qute a few AH/WB/AW players contribute.

What is nontrivial is developing a HTTP interface that will work in most browsers and still maintain all of the goodies that UBB/HTML provides for.

If anyone would like to take a crack at developing something like this, I'd be willing to help.

TK/Diche
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: Lephturn on June 05, 2001, 11:51:00 AM
Hey TK... look up a few posts.  Such a thing already exists.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

It's a web BBS with an NNTP plugin.  That would be sweet.

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Sean "Lephturn" Conrad - Aces High Chief Trainer

A proud member of the mighty Flying Pigs
http://www.flyingpigs.com

Check out Lephturn's Aerodrome (http://lephturn.webhop.net) for AH articles and training info!
Title: UBB alternative
Post by: TK_421 on June 05, 2001, 12:42:00 PM
I know.  There are several such products.

But it's "not inexpensive".  Ideally, the community could build something like this cheaply.  Cost ought to be a huge concern, since I don't think HTC is quite as well off as Ion Storm was.

Besides, I've got the hardware, and half the software (the NNTP half anyway ;-) ) and reasonable bandwidth (DSL).  I could host HTTP stuff as well on that box, if we wanted to take a crack at developing something.

By the people, for the people or something like that. ;-)

TK/Diche