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Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: TBolt A-10 on June 03, 2004, 03:53:35 PM
http://www.michaelmoore.com/

I'm not really a Moore fan, but I wouldn't be surprised if this film was a wake-up call for most people in this nation.  :lol
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: lazs2 on June 03, 2004, 04:35:46 PM
Why would anyone believe anything moore even said much less consider it a "wake up call" ?

If moore is for it I'm against it... if he's against it... I'm for it..  If he says it true.. it's gotta be a lie and if he says someone is lying then they are probably not.

He's a mush headed liberal playing to a bunch of mush headed liberals.

lazs
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: rpm on June 03, 2004, 05:13:36 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
Why would anyone believe anything moore even said much less consider it a "wake up call" ?

If moore is for it I'm against it... if he's against it... I'm for it..  If he says it true.. it's gotta be a lie and if he says someone is lying then they are probably not.

He's a mush headed liberal playing to a bunch of mush headed liberals.

lazs
The NeoCon mantra.
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: snapperhead on June 03, 2004, 05:26:01 PM
http://www.revoketheoscar.com/
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: VOR on June 03, 2004, 05:28:46 PM
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Originally posted by rpm371
The NeoCon mantra.


Nah, Moore is an extremist. He should only be taken about as seriously as Rush. Problem is, he, Rush and others have a pretty gullible fanbase to feed upon.
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Otto on June 03, 2004, 06:50:54 PM
How could Moore 'wake up' anyone but an Ultra Liberal who believes his own propaganda?

Oh, BTW, if your not a 'Moore Fan' why did you post this..?
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: ravells on June 03, 2004, 07:06:03 PM
Looks like a really good film.

Can't wait to see it.

Ravs
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Saurdaukar on June 03, 2004, 08:10:06 PM
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Originally posted by rpm371
The NeoCon mantra.


Otherwise known as 'truth' in this case.

Are you claiming that Moore is anything other than a lefty baffoon?
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: GRUNHERZ on June 03, 2004, 08:10:11 PM
It's funny, no doubt. Moore has always made funny films... But...
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Lizking on June 03, 2004, 08:14:19 PM
The really sad part is that many will believe it, even though they know in their heart that it is not true.  The ones who do not know that are just ignorant and uninformed, but that includes a majority of our nation.  Ah well, such is life in a free and democratic nation.
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: midnight Target on June 03, 2004, 08:21:59 PM
What's funny is the lashing out at something you all know nothing about. Where does he lie? Where does he stretch? I sure don't know... never saw the film. I bet none of you have seen it either.
Title: Re: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: FUNKED1 on June 03, 2004, 08:23:31 PM
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Originally posted by TBolt A-10
I wouldn't be surprised if this film was a wake-up call for most people in this nation.  :lol


Yes it will probably wake people up to the fact that that Moore is a no talent assclown and a liar.
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: RedTop on June 03, 2004, 08:31:48 PM
:rolleyes: Michael Moore is a fine American. He has used is immense talents as a film maker and historian to make a completely factual Movie. His total attention to detail and his absolute representation of BOTH sides of this issue will go down as one of the if not the greatest film documentary in the history of film making. He should be given every award that is out there before the release of his film. And , I might add I am personally apauled by the cheap shots taken by some on this BBS at his film. He should be raised to new heights and revelled as the great person he is. His values and sense of truth are unpresedented in todays society. It will more than likely go down as the all tinme greatest film ever.:rolleyes:


He's a friggin Moron.    :mad:
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Horn on June 03, 2004, 08:34:57 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
What's funny is the lashing out at something you all know nothing about. Where does he lie? Where does he stretch? I sure don't know... never saw the film. I bet none of you have seen it either.


Nope haven't seen it and unlike the extreme right wing whackos that inhabit this board, I'll give it a try--I liked Roger and Me, but was pissed at Columbine--his treatment of the NRA and his out-of-context cuts were fuxxored. I was aghast that the Academy considered it in any way a documentary much less give him a friggin statue for it.

h
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Otto on June 03, 2004, 08:41:49 PM
Midnight,

    Moore tries to show a sinister conspersity between the Bush and Binladen families simply because the U.S flew them out of the country for their own safety after 9/11.   The Binladen family does not support Osama and never has.   This was all covered in the 9/11 hearings but that has no effect on Moore.   'Facts' have never stood in his way.  

   He is a small silly man who will make money anyway he can just as he renounces 'Capitalism'
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Yeager on June 03, 2004, 08:46:32 PM
A wake up call for the nation?

Does the sign outside your brain read "vacancy"?

Moore specializes in taking stupid people and downloading his crap into their brains........creating an army of idiots to do his dirty work.
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: XtrmeJ on June 03, 2004, 08:51:44 PM
The end of that trailer made me laugh... "I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers............ Now watch this drive" *whooping* :p
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: strk on June 03, 2004, 10:04:35 PM
was Ashcroft really singing??  wtf was that  bizarre.
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Ripsnort on June 03, 2004, 10:06:47 PM
Goebbels would have been proud to read a thread like this....and given Moore an iron cross.
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Lizking on June 03, 2004, 10:18:44 PM
I haven't seen it, just reviews.  Those reviews do list some of his main points of the movie, same as that trailer, and...they are simply lies and mis-direction.
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Horn on June 03, 2004, 10:57:02 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Goebbels would have been proud to read a thread like this....and given Moore an iron cross.


LOL, so now Moore is a Nazi? WTG Rip!

Stick to cut n' paste. You're better at it.

h
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Sandman on June 03, 2004, 11:04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
A wake up call for the nation?

Does the sign outside your brain read "vacancy"?

Moore specializes in taking stupid people and downloading his crap into their brains........creating an army of idiots to do his dirty work.



Now watch this drive. :D
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: xrtoronto on June 03, 2004, 11:05:01 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
........creating an army of idiots to do his dirty work.


exactly what israel has done to the US :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Gyro/T69 on June 03, 2004, 11:06:37 PM
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Moore tries to show a sinister conspersity between the Bush and Binladen families simply because the U.S flew them out of the country for their own safety after 9/11.


Small point. Clarke approved the flights out of the country.


The decision to approve the flights, Clarke admitted last week, had been his own. The request "didn't get any higher than me," he told The Hill .

"On 9-11, 9-12 and 9-13, many things didn't get any higher than me. I decided it in consultation with the FBI," Clarke said of the plane flight carrying bin Laden's relatives.

"I take responsibility for it. I don't think it was a mistake, and I'd do it again," he added. The Saudis and bin Laden's relatives were flown from the U.S. out of fear for their safety following the terror attacks.



http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=\SpecialReports\archive\200406\SPE20040601a.html
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: storch on June 03, 2004, 11:09:30 PM
Moore is funny but he's also a pinhead liberal and absolutely full of crap.  Maybe he can host a talk radio show with that other funny pinhead Al Franken.
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Ripsnort on June 03, 2004, 11:09:32 PM
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Originally posted by Horn
LOL, so now Moore is a Nazi? WTG Rip!

Stick to cut n' paste. You're better at it.

h


You obviously missed the obvious...master of deception, master of propoganda connection...
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Sandman on June 03, 2004, 11:11:50 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
You obviously missed the obvious...master of deception, master of propoganda connection...


Moore's deception has yet to get anyone killed... Which is more than we can say about the current admin.
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Horn on June 03, 2004, 11:20:05 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
You obviously missed the obvious...master of deception, master of propoganda connection...


Yes I obviously missed where he was right wing facista (Nazi, right?). Please elaborate--or, you can learn something:

A BBC review of the film: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/3722769.stm
CNN's cut: http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/24/film.moore.reut/
Time magazine: http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,638819,00.html
Japanese blog: http://www.blogd.com/archives/000620.html
NY Post: http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/24315.htm
Combo of Post and Times: http://www.newyorkish.com/newyorkish/2004/05/right_vs_left_f.html

Very different opinions of the movie. I'll not miss it.

Like I said above he definitely has something to make up for after that Columbine movie.

h
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Ripsnort on June 03, 2004, 11:24:01 PM
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Originally posted by Horn
Yes I obviously missed where he was right wing facista (Nazi, right?). Please elaborate--or, you can learn something:

Ah



Propoganda sees no political boundaries, son.
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on June 04, 2004, 12:28:27 AM
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Originally posted by rpm371
The NeoCon mantra.


They don't seem to be Squawking "Bush landslide!!" anymore - should we call for medical assistance? Has the fog cleared? Is coffee being sniffed??
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Gixer on June 04, 2004, 12:38:59 AM
Can you be anti bush and not be a liberal?

Seems all Bush fans equate anti bush = liberal. Can't be that cut and dry surely?



...-Gixer
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: NUKE on June 04, 2004, 12:49:46 AM
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Originally posted by Gixer
Can you be anti bush and not be a liberal?

Seems all Bush fans equate anti bush = liberal. Can't be that cut and dry surely?



...-Gixer


Seems like all Kerry fans equate anti Kerry = conservative. Cant be that cut and dry, right?

What a post
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Yeager on June 04, 2004, 01:30:44 AM
Moore's deception has yet to get anyone killed... Which is more than we can say about the current admin.
====
Ahh yes, Im sure somewhere in the liberal propoganda piece moore will tell you that Bush caused 9/11 and got alot of people killed.   Truth is people like moore get alot of people killed with political inuendo, lies and deceit.

Wake up neolefties!  get RIGHT before its too late!
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: GRUNHERZ on June 04, 2004, 01:39:57 AM
Moore's movies are funny but he is an abusive and biased hack. You can see how much he  revels in shoving the camera into peoples faces and abusing and making them uncofortable..

Don't belive me? Just go watch Rodger and Me, or more prescisely "Totally innocent lobby attendants, poor people, rabbit farmers and unemployed workers repeatedly accosted and ridiculed by me."


Somebody needs to make "Micheal and Me." I'd love to see how that arrogant self imporatnt rich premadonna would react if somebody soved a caera into his face and harrased him day after day...

In fact that sounds like a fun project for this summer, anybody got a good deal on a good quality digital video camera?
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: TBolt A-10 on June 04, 2004, 01:41:37 AM
Even as a registered Republican, I think it's worth seeing the movie.  Moore is self-promoting and extreme...yea...but it's still a good idea to listen to all sides of an argument.

Most of you guys seem most comfortable as long as you see nothing beyond the white lines that have been drawn out for you. :lol
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: SOB on June 04, 2004, 01:46:50 AM
I'll watch it, though I find it much more amusing when he just goes after big business.  It is funny to see people get so bent out of shape over a movie, though.  Yeager takes top prize with his assertion that Moore's movies get people killed.  That's just beautiful!  Carry on, man!
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: TBolt A-10 on June 04, 2004, 02:18:13 AM
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Originally posted by Yeager
Moore's deception has yet to get anyone killed... Which is more than we can say about the current admin.
====
Ahh yes, Im sure somewhere in the liberal propoganda piece moore will tell you that Bush caused 9/11 and got alot of people killed.   Truth is people like moore get alot of people killed with political inuendo, lies and deceit.

Wake up neolefties!  get RIGHT before its too late!


:rofl  :lol  

Yeager,
You're about as narrow-minded as Michael Moore; only poorer.
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: strk on June 04, 2004, 05:50:28 AM
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Originally posted by Gyro/T69
Small point. Clarke approved the flights out of the country.


The decision to approve the flights, Clarke admitted last week, had been his own. The request "didn't get any higher than me," he told The Hill .

"On 9-11, 9-12 and 9-13, many things didn't get any higher than me. I decided it in consultation with the FBI," Clarke said of the plane flight carrying bin Laden's relatives.

"I take responsibility for it. I don't think it was a mistake, and I'd do it again," he added. The Saudis and bin Laden's relatives were flown from the U.S. out of fear for their safety following the terror attacks.



http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=\SpecialReports\archive\200406\SPE20040601a.html


CNSNews is a bogus right wing shill.  CLark did not say that, in fact his testimony in front of the commission said that he did NOT approve it.
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Gyro/T69 on June 04, 2004, 07:26:26 AM
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CNSNews is a bogus right wing shill. CLark did not say that, in fact his testimony in front of the commission said that he did NOT approve it


Really, http://www.hillnews.com/news/052604/clarke.aspx

Seens the new god of the left got that one wrong right out of the gate.
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Yeager on June 04, 2004, 08:02:10 AM
lol, your all tools :D
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Red Tail 444 on June 04, 2004, 10:09:36 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
What's funny is the lashing out at something you all know nothing about. Where does he lie? Where does he stretch? I sure don't know... never saw the film. I bet none of you have seen it either.


:rolleyes:
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: SOB on June 04, 2004, 10:14:48 AM
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Originally posted by Yeager
lol, your all tools :D

Yeager, please see the quote in my sig.  Thank you. :p
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Red Tail 444 on June 04, 2004, 10:19:45 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
he is an abusive and biased hack.  


Are you talking about Moore, or 90% of the people on this board?:lol
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Boroda on June 04, 2004, 10:25:03 AM
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Originally posted by Yeager

Moore specializes in taking stupid people and downloading his crap into their brains........creating an army of idiots to do his dirty work.


Why did you write "Moore" instead of "government"? :confused:
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: midnight Target on June 04, 2004, 10:33:25 AM
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
:rolleyes:
:confused:
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Yeager on June 04, 2004, 10:52:29 AM
your funny sOb :rofl

Boroda, put whatever you like in there.  It all works.

Welcome to the shed.
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Horn on June 04, 2004, 11:08:29 AM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Propoganda sees no political boundaries, son.


So the pro-Bush propoganda like, "Swift boats for Truth" kinda thing is Nazism. Gotcha.

Son.

h

(who's much older than you)
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Yeager on June 04, 2004, 11:12:43 AM
careful with that thing horn, youll shoot your eye out :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: strk on June 04, 2004, 08:59:05 PM
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Originally posted by Gyro/T69
Really, http://www.hillnews.com/news/052604/clarke.aspx

Seens the new god of the left got that one wrong right out of the gate.


it appears that you are correct, and have provided proof from a source that is not a right wing shill.

He did state in front of the commission that he refused to authorize it:

"This new account of the events seemed to contradict Clarke’s sworn testimony before the Sept. 11 commission at the end of March about who approved the flights.

“The request came to me, and I refused to approve it,” Clarke testified. “I suggested that it be routed to the FBI and that the FBI look at the names of the individuals who were going to be on the passenger manifest and that they approve it or not. I spoke with the — at the time — No. 2 person in the FBI, Dale Watson, and asked him to deal with this issue. The FBI then approved … the flight.”


now he takes full responsibility for it, and appears that the FBI had some imput into it as well.

new god of the left?  you are confusing me with Howard Dean!! Yeeaarrrgggghghhhh!!
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Lizking on June 04, 2004, 09:05:44 PM
And that pretty much ruins the whole "documentary" aspect of MM's little video, doesn't it?
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: strk on June 04, 2004, 09:08:28 PM
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Originally posted by Lizking
And that pretty much ruins the whole "documentary" aspect of MM's little video, doesn't it?


beats me.  Im gonna go see it if I can.  I will let you know.  I want to see Asscroft sing.
Title: Farenheit 9/11 Trailer
Post by: Lizking on June 04, 2004, 09:30:27 PM
Yeah, it is worth it for that alone.