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Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: CavemanJ on March 06, 2000, 10:40:00 AM
I logged in this mornin and was pleasantly surprised to find the usual gangbang wasn't going on.  The nits and bish were fighting between 13-14-23-24 and we rooks were working on getting field 5 back while the bish tried to get 6.
So after looking at the map for a few minutes I decide to pick a fight with the nits, and had alot more success than I wished for.
I collected the other 2 members of the crew who were online and we took field 22.  Within 15 minutes of us getting 22 the usual gangbang was on again as the bishcuits and nits were totally ignoring each other.  Not a single marker to be found around 13-14-23-24
BTW, the bish had the most pilots this morning.

This toejame has gotten awfully old.

::hoisting a one-finger salute to those who say the rooks dinnae get gangbanged 99% of the time::
Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: TRiMmer on March 06, 2000, 10:47:00 AM
Interesting post, I was on at the time you mentioned.  No gangbang whatsoever.  Like 10 bish, 8 knit, 8 rook....and bish equal split between attacking knits and rooks.  Just checked again 5 bish, 7 knit, 8 rook, why cry "wolf" all the time cave?

Salute

trm
Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: AKDejaVu on March 06, 2000, 11:15:00 AM
So... just to get this straight.  You guys couldn't take f5... so you decided to take an unprotected f22.  Then.. when the knights respond you cry "gang-bang".

Sheesh
Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: Toad on March 06, 2000, 11:18:00 AM
Laddie, I dinnae oonderstand ye.

Knights air fitin Bish at 13-14-23-24. Roooks and Bish air contestin 5-6.

Ye jump in an take 22 on the sly, as no one is lookin there an it's nae too haird.

Then ye air suprised that the Knights react to this invasion? That they turn to face the new threat?

Ye air suprised that with no wee Knights to keel up Nairth, the Bish head for the already ongoing action at 5-6?

By yer own words, man:

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I logged in this mornin and was pleasantly surprised to find the usual gangbang wasn't going on. The nits and bish were fighting between 13-14-23-24 and we rooks were working on getting field 5 back while the bish tried to get 6.
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Seems ye had what you always say you want but couldna leave weel enuf alone, eh?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

I dinnae blame the Knights for turning to the threat.

I dinnae blame the Bish for looking for greener killing fields.

Why did ye nae just join the ongoing fites?
Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: Hangtime on March 06, 2000, 11:58:00 AM
ROFLMAO!

Somebody get me another depends... I just peed myself laffin again.

Hang
TDY/357th Pony Express
Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: Fatty on March 06, 2000, 03:59:00 PM
Another great thread brought to us by The Whining Crew.

Fatty
"the rooks dinnae get gangbanged 99% of the time"
Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: Camel on March 06, 2000, 04:54:00 PM
Cry me a river!
Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: Swager on March 06, 2000, 05:46:00 PM
The Rooks and Bishops reset the arena by shutting down the Knights this past weekend.  Just the nature of the game!

Hey!  I like gangbangs!!  It means ya are showin an intrest in me!!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: Wardog on March 06, 2000, 07:20:00 PM
Well i was at Knight f20 last night alone against 8 cons capping the field. And i gota tell ya it was the best damn sortie ive had since we have gone Pay. I was low fighting cons & duckin Ack the best i could.

Just got my 5th kill as i was getting ripped new orafices. <S> Knights

There are so many ways to improve your ACM an SA when odds are against you. On top of that, your just missing out on a ton of fun.


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Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: leonid on March 06, 2000, 10:33:00 PM
Caveman,

I do believe what comes around, goes around.  All the countries go through this pounding, it's just Rooks' turn now.  And, don't worry you'll actually get used to it.  The Knights have  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)


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Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: Gator on March 07, 2000, 06:41:00 AM
> So after looking at the map for a few minutes I decide to pick a fight with the nits, and had alot more success than I wished for.

 > So... just to get this straight. You guys couldn't take f5... so you decided to take an unprotected f22. Then.. when the knights respond you cry "gang-bang".



LOL!  I'm with Hang, this is the funniest post/thread in quite a while ...
Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: Mighty1 on March 07, 2000, 08:33:00 AM
Cave I really <snicker snicker> love <sniff> your stories.<mmmmmph> <mmm> <Mwaaahaahaaaa!>

OHGODOHGODOHGOD! stop it<pain in side> your killing me!

<chuckle chuckle> OKOK tell me again about being<kngggh> gangbanged. <AAAAAAAHAHAAAHAHAH!!>

I'm sorry I shouldn't laugh..of course you are right.

I can see why you were mad..I mean I get pissed everytime I go after a undefended base and someone tries to stop me. I mean the nerve of them sending planes after you.

I think what we need to do is take screen shots of these villains and send them to HT so he can ban them from AH forever.

I have no tolerence for people who defend their own bases. This type of behavior should never be tolerated.



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Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: CavemanJ on March 07, 2000, 08:36:00 AM
I expected half the nits to come down and start fighting with us.

What I dinnae expect was for ALL the nits to come down and fight us, and then ALL the bish head down to the 5-6 area.  I figured the bish would take advantage of the major distraction we had just thrown into nitland and would push on to take 23 or 24.

And this weren't a sneak attack.  All 3 of us climbed from take off and went over the mountains.  Even the gooney bird climbed up and over.  Would have been very easy for a couple of nits to stop us (I guess they had thier maps zoomed in and never bothered to zoom out once in a while and take a look)
Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: Kieren on March 07, 2000, 08:54:00 AM
Then, if I understand what is implied, you expected to help the Bishops somewhat with this attack on 22? Couldn't that then be considered a tacit Bish/Rook alliance? Wouldn't this then be a "gang-bang" against the Knights?

C'mon, you must see that your plan backfired and both sides came after you the way you hoped to get them to turn on one another. Would you be here complaining about getting gang-banged if you had succeeded in turning it into a Rook/Bishop fight against Knights? No way.

I agree with the others. This happens to all sides, it's not fun when it happens to you night after night, but it does happen. For the last month Rooks have had dominant numbers and have used them. Things are swinging the other way (as they do). Numbers have even fallen to the point I am flying Rook (always on low side).  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: Maniac on March 07, 2000, 09:00:00 AM
Its an 3 sided war, every country will always be fighting 2 others at the same time, its easy math. . . except when one country have very few or no pilots at all.

Cya

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Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: Pongo on March 07, 2000, 09:45:00 AM
We have a rook pilot that is nearing his 2 week trial end. He has been gangbanged for his entire two weeks. He cant understand why the game is the way it is. The three country thing just doenst make sense to him. I told him that it has been bad for a while in the pacific evenings, but that at other times we prob were doing the same to one of the other counties.
He had been getting dove on at 8 for several hours last night so he took a P38 and flew up between 14 23 13 23 .. He was supprised to see not a single con in the air. I said the dar shows that...He said so for the past weeks when the I have looked at radar and the only fights were over our base both entire counties were fighting us that whole time?
This seems to happen every night. If the rooks can weather it, it stops arround 10-11 pac time. But there is almost an uninterupted gangbang waged against the rooks for most of the night for several weeks now. Maybe at 1 in the afternoon it is different.
I know that HT and co find this a non issue.  It is an issue, AH is hard to play, there are plenty of pilots out there that can hand your butt to ya co-alt 1 on 1, 8 out of 10 times. Give them superior numbers and E advantage and try to enjoy your 2 weeks enough to pony up your 30 per month.
After two weeks of it the rooks seem disorganised. We are probably whining too much about it but only half the whines are making it to open channel.
As a trainer I really enjoy getting a reasonably clued in newby involved in what the Crew and the Muskiteers are up to and showing them the ropes of teamwork and comunication that make AH such a great experiance.
I would have to tell them to fly Bish or Knight right now. There is not time for tutoring in Rookland the last few weeks.  
Its defence of the reich night most nights.




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The Wrecking Crew
Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: AKDejaVu on March 07, 2000, 10:06:00 AM
Pongo,

Nobody said that there isn't any 2:1 scenarios going on.  What will be seriously disputed is someone crying wolf in this particular situation.

If you believe this is only happening to rooks.. try flying knights for a couple of weeks.  I guarantee you will wonder how someone can even get gang-banged more than the rooks.  I have a pretty good screenshot of 20 red cons on dar on both of our borders.  We had 17 people total at the time.  This was during peak hours.

The simple truth is that people will look for an advantage any way that they can get it.  If it means always hanging out 15k above the enemy with numbers, then they will do it.  If it means having a bomber go in and take out ack simply so they can vulch, they will do it.  Very few people play this game simply for the challenge of a 1:1.  I'm not sure that anyone should really be playing AH if that's all they are interested in.

There needs to be more of a push towards strategy.  At times the ability to strategically chose your battles can make all the difference in the world.  How many times does a country get in a gang bang scenario because they have 80% of their resources flying out of that one captured base in bish land... and 2 of their bombers decide to try to take a field on the knights side.  How many times do the rooks have bases in both Knight and Bish land... only to have both countries push back, take the bases back, then keep on pushing?

AKDejaVu

Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: Toad on March 07, 2000, 11:32:00 AM
Och, Laddie, so new the othir lads won't play the game as YEW expect? Tsk, Tsk..the nairve of those uninfarmed bastages!

For yew said:

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"What I dinnae expect was for ALL the nits to come down and fight us, and then ALL the bish head down to the 5-6 area. I figured the bish would take advantage of the major distraction we had just thrown into nitland and would push on to take 23 or 24."
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Pairhaps yew shud post EXACTLY how the rest of the "greaaaat ooonwashed" should be playin, so's we can all abide by yer wishes.

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DejaVu....Totally agree on the strat issue!
Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: Torque on March 07, 2000, 12:22:00 PM
                                   
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Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: weazel on March 07, 2000, 01:06:00 PM
Purty? Looks like "Chicken of the Sea" from my viewpoint.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: Ripsnort on March 07, 2000, 01:16:00 PM
CaveJ:
"Within 15 minutes of us
                   getting 22 the usual gangbang was on again as the bishcuits and nits were totally ignoring each other. Not
                   a single marker to be found around 13-14-23-24
                   BTW, the bish had the most pilots this morning.

                   This toejame has gotten awfully old."

Yup, about as old as parking a B26 at the end of a runway and shooting folks as  they spawn, that day Knights had the least amount of folks online...sound familiar?

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Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: Staga on March 15, 2000, 04:17:00 PM
Nice Photo  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

 (http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/GangBang.jpg)

Allways FairPlay....  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: leonid on March 15, 2000, 10:40:00 PM
Caveman,

Enough with your squeakin' & moanin'!  Deal with it, whiner.  You spout on about how Rooks get routinely 'gang banged', yet just last weekend I spent at least 2 hours alone fighting your motley crew at 1:8 odds.  Did you hear me whine, squeak, scream, or moan?  No!  You took at least 4 fields from the Knights with me as sole defender, sending out multiple c47 missions after sending out a b26 on a 'bombing tour'.  By the time I logged two comrades had joined me in defending against what was now 9 Rooks at which point they were making for our HQ.

You're definitely no Highlander, more like a lowland reiver, it seems...


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5 GIAP VVS RKKA (http://www.adamfive.com/guerrero)

"Our cause is just.  The enemy will be crushed.  Victory will be ours."
Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: leonid on March 16, 2000, 12:37:00 AM
Whoa, was I a little pissed, or what?

Okay, Caveman, I came on a little too strong.  But, do try to accept the vagarities of the arena.  And I'll try to keep my head in a bucket of ice.

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5 GIAP VVS RKKA (http://www.adamfive.com/guerrero)

"Our cause is just.  The enemy will be crushed.  Victory will be ours."
Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: SC-GreyBeard on March 16, 2000, 05:15:00 AM
I logged on about the same time cave did or a little bit later.. sides mostly evenly split..

We had the numbers on our side down at 5.
(since Nits Bishies were playing up high...

Then the rooks made a major tactical BLUNDER.... (hitting 22)

Sorry Cave but it was a dumb move on the rooks part...

The rooks (at least the 2 that went and got 22, then bailed when the Gangbang started..) brought it on themselves....

was a DUMB move.. no question about it..

We deserved what we got last night for being STUPID.....



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Title: and the gangbang continues
Post by: Saintaw on March 16, 2000, 05:36:00 AM
 
Quote
Originally posted by Hangtime:
ROFLMAO!

Somebody get me another depends... I just peed myself laffin again.

Hang
TDY/357th Pony Express

LOL Someone send hand some Diapers, please !!!!

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